Rex 84 - Concentration Camps , for Peak Oil and population control ?

[cthrumatrix]

For those who need information on the numerous staffed concentration camps in the US...google on Rex 84.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.

The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.



Now....add the above reality with the reality of the future of oil (peak oil) and the need for population control (civil unrest).


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Most people have never had to cope with sustained, substantial levels of fear, either in themselves or in others in close proximity. My own experience is limited. I will say I believe you should be prepared to see and deal with behaviour you would never have believed possible from civilized humans. The reason I said you should avoid crowds has to do with the fact that individual frustration is one thing, but the frustration of many people feeds individual frustration and fear, which, of course, feeds the frustration of the crowd. The cycle will feed itself until either the root source of frustration is relieved or there is a catastrophic event, such as a riot.

http://www.oilcrash.com/articles/after_c.htm

It adds up to why isn't our government doing squat on alternative renewable energy plans.

This is creeping me out.

[cthrumatrix]

1. a kick for somebody's thoughts....

[justiceischeap]

2. It's not out of the question for the US to have these camps

There were "internment" camps during WWII for Japanese-Americans. We "interned" Native Americans to reservations. It seems like the south end of town in a lot of cities are internment camps for low-income folks.

I'm not claiming to agree with their existence, I'm just saying there are all kinds of "camps" in modern day society. You just have to look.

One could argue we are already prisoners of the necons and the religious right. They are outbreeding us by the dozens on a daily basis. Do you really think they are against abortion because of religious beliefs? It's because they don't want to kill off their potential base.

Do I think I'll end up in one of these camps some day? Possibly. I find myself thinking at times how long it will be before the FBI comes to my door to take me away because of my political beliefs.

[magellan]

6. Quite a sad statement on the condition of our democracy

thecorrection wrote: "I find myself thinking at times how long it will be before the FBI comes to my door to take me away because of my political beliefs."

Ordinary people worrying about being locked up for their political beliefs. Who would have imagined America would EVER come to this again after the nightmare of McCarthyism? And yet I find myself wondering the same thing.

It's not by chance, you know. The RW leadership in this country have given anyone who cares to listen good reason to be concerned. We're routinely exposed to anti-liberal propaganda on RW talk radio and tv by the likes of Hannity, Limbaugh and Coulter. Their language is incendiary.

Liberals are traitors. Liberals should leave the country. Liberals are anti-American and pro-terrorist.

Just when we think it surely must be time to start reining in these dimwitted coast-to-coast hatemongers, we get upstanding models of Republican Congressional leadership speaking on the subject with great passion. Not in opposition, mind you. In a speech just last week, Rep. James Gibbons from Nevada villifed liberals and stated it was “too damn bad we didn’t buy them a ticket” to become human shields in Iraq.

The crowd applauded.

I hadn't heard about Gibbons' insanely reprehensible solution to liberal dissent till it was discussed on the DU. It's no surprise our spineless Corporate Media hasn't mentioned it; they're very busy covering the Michael Jackson trial, and besides, many of them probably agree with Gibbons. I mean, their jobs would be much easier if they could just report what they're told to report without the constant nuisance of liberals demanding some real journalism from them.

Of course, one might expect Gibbons' fellow Republicans in Congress to take the high road and censure him for his irresponsible and reckless speech (it's the second time he's done this recently)...but one would be disappointed. The age when America's elected officials were held to a higher standard of behavior than the most brutal among us is over. The silence from the Majority on the Hill can only be interpreted to mean that they condone Gibbons' abuse of the Freedom of Speech, and share his restive desire to take care of the damn liberals, once and for all.

THESE PEOPLE RUN OUR COUNTRY.

At one time, an American -- most particularly someone in our government -- expressing regret at "not having given liberals tickets to be human shields" would have been met with outrage, not joyful applause. After 9/11 that should hold more true than ever.

After all, punishing Americans for their political beliefs is something terrorists do.

So I ask you, how far can we really be from arrests and internment?

[cthrumatrix]

3. kick

[Daphne08]

4. I have heard of this and hope it is just an urban legend.

[peacetalksforall]

5. We know something about two of their models....

They threw all suspects into prisons in Iraq. In Iraq they didn't have databases with comprehensive histories on the citizens so they kept them all and they assumed that all of them knew where bin Laden...ooops...knew where Hussein was and the weapons. (I didn't say WMD, but it seems like they were looking harder for WMD then Hussein to post-justify their imperialism, lies, and the torture and killing to come.)

There other model is the U.S.....as you say...empty, but maintained prisons combined with limited ratios of prisons to the population, troublesome laws and lawyers, limited bodies to do the rounding up, limited containment tools, grand distances - so they will use the database data to determine who to keep and who to let go.

So yes, I guess that means that I agree that they probably have a plan. I don't think they are good contingency planners, but they have probably devoted time, our money, and energy to this. But, I can't imagine how their list reads - the list of people an dconditions under which they would gather and imprison.

They've probably had the think tankers working on it.

So I want to know if they also have the carbon monoxide gas producing trucks, baths, and ovens since they borrow so much from other imperialist-torturers.

And we will bring honor and dignity to the WH - in our suits and ties. And we shall send Christmas cards that say Peace on Earth, and we will turn to our neighbor in church and extend a hand of peace.



And, as always, when speaking about chemicals, I wonder once again why so many top bio-scientists had to die within a short period of time.

[cthrumatrix]

7. the thing that troubles me is that "they know" "we know" and that has to

be uncomfortable since it takes sooo little for soo much to be exposed in such a way that could make things quite "untidy" (to use Rumsfeld's words.

We shall see. I personally have hope that a higher level is watching over this and it shall not come to past.

[Melynn]

8. Tommy Franks has stated that America will declare martial law

if the U.S. gets hit with a WMD. So there you are. Here's the scenario:

America gets his with a WMD, martial law is declared, Iran is blamed for the attack, Iran is invaded and all domestic opposition to the war is put in detention camps.

If the U.S. is hit hard enough by WMD, your average America will support those actions by the government. Very chilling indeed.

[BiggJawn]

11. He actually said We'd BEG for Martial Law.

One more attack, and we'd be begging the government to put us under Martial Law and keep us safe from the bad brown-skinned men...he told "Stogie Sucker Monthly" that.

I'd like to think that he's wrong, but who knows? I bet he's got better intel than I do.

[Melynn]

12. Thanks for correcting me.

I have been misquoting the General on this subject.

Still pretty chilling. The mind set of the neo-cons is that Americans are little sheep who are willingly to give up their freedom for security. Some Americans are like that and the Americans who aren't willingly to give up their freedom, well there's those camps.......

[BiggJawn]

16. You had the scenario right, though.

We'd get hit again (which I doubt. All Al-Kah-Seltzah had to do was hit us ONCE, and then sit back and watch us implode) and the Sheeple, in their fear and leg-wetting panic, will SCREAM for Dumbya to "SAVE US! SAVE US!!!"

Then we'll get the "Mah feller Murkans" speech informing us that life as we knew it is over. Not because of the LIHOP attack, Part Deux, but because America will become a place that makes old Albania look like a Beacon of Freedom.

Martial Law, Permission to travel outside of your home county required, mandatory church attendence (gotta pray for our country! Everybody!) All sorts of fun and games.

And we forget the words of Ben Franklin: (paraphrased)

"Those who would trade Essential Freedom for the Illusion of Safety deserve neither Freedom or Safety..."

"I don't see what the problem is, after all, I have my work and shopping permit, so I can go to work and Wall-Mart and home. It's WORTH it to be safe from the Terra-ists!"

[RBHam]

9. Contingencies...

DIE OFF
"If a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst."
-- Thomas Hardy
Petroleum geologists have known for 50 years that global oil production would "peak" and begin its inevitable decline within a decade of the year 2000. Moreover, no renewable energy systems have the potential to generate more than a fraction of the power now being generated by fossil fuels.


In short, the transition to declining energy availability signals a transition in civilization as we know it.

Read the entire synopsis now!

http://dieoff.org/

[brokensymmetry]

18. Exactly.

When Peak hits, dieoff will not be far behind. Every food calorie we consume has (on average) requires TEN calories from oil to produce it.

Are we OK in the U.S.? Maybe. Big Maybe. But what happens if we aren't, and the store shelves are empty? What happens on the southern border when tens (hundreds?) of millions of starving people head north, because they have no other choice?

It's going to get bumpy.

[sarcasmo]

10. Like I have said in numerous other posts. Chimp will impose Martial Law

in 08 and we will have no need for an election. The radical left will and all Muslim Americans will be kept in those camps. King Chimp will make Hitler look tame. All hail King Chimp. All hail King Chimp.

[norml]

13. rotten > Library > Conspiracy > American Concentration Camps

rotten > Library > Conspiracy > American Concentration Camps


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American Concentration Camps
A typical American reaction to footage of the Third Reich's concentration camps is to shudder and say "But that could never happen here." At which point, an interior monologue voice is compelled to come back in an ominous tone with, "Or could it?"
The answer to that question, of course, is "yes, of course it could," followed by "in fact, it already has," in addition to "and it still is," with the added stipulation that "it's possibly much worse than you imagined."

Now granted, even the most paranoid theories regarding the American use of concentration camps falls far short of the atrocities perpetrated by the Germans. No one is claiming that mad scientists are dissecting live prisoners for warped experiments here... Well, OK, the point is only a very few people are claiming that.

But the reality of U.S. concentration camps, both historically and in modern use, can't be denied. They've been used in the Civil War and WWII, and they are currently being used in the War on Terror, and they might be in use on U.S. soil under an insane Federal Emergency Management Agency plan called REX-84, which was drafted by none other than Oliver North at the order of Ronald Reagan (a nutty-sounding conspiracy theory which is unfortunately 100% true).

Speculation only enters into it when you try to estimate just how big the iceberg under that tip really is.


snip http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/american-concentration-camps/

[Karenina]

14. Kick!

:scared:

[cthrumatrix]

15. an idea: let's have the media ask bush of these "camps" and "peak oil"

[justiceischeap]

17. We can't even get the media to talk about Guckert

What makes you think they'll talk about this?

It seems anymore, if you want something covered, you need to make a documentary. Buy yourself a mini-dv camcorder and get busy, become your own news outlet.