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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:15 AM
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You'd better sit down for this one: Zogby Poll's most recent numbers on *


54% of us have a negative view

45% have a positive view

WOW OH WOW OH WOW OH WOW!!!!
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:16 AM
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1. You can fool some of the people some of the time...but...
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 11:16 AM by Atlant
Thanks for the great news, Lynne!

Atlant
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:16 AM
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2. ...we won't get fooled again?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:20 AM
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8. On the nose, Harry! :-) (NT)
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:26 AM
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23. Fool my one...err...uhhh....Fool me twice.....errr
won't get fooled again.
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:17 AM
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3. What a nice inverse relationship.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:17 AM
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4. Yay!
This calls for a round of drinks! Diet 7-Up for all!

I wonder how long we're going to still be hearing "...but he's a very popular president."

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:19 AM
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6. Popularity requires at least 51% unless you live in California
then you just need to be a little more popular than 135 other candidates
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:23 AM
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14. Lynne: "Popularity requires at least 51% unless you live in California"
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 11:24 AM by Atlant
> Popularity requires at least 51% unless you live in California

For some reason, your line made me flash on the...

Chastity: I know you can be under whelmed,
and you can be overwhelmed, but can you
ever just be, like, whelmed?

Bianca: I think you can in Europe.


dialog from "10 Things I Hate About You"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0147800/quotes

Atlant
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:11 PM
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38. or Florida...
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Vikingking66 Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:19 AM
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5. what a lovely slope
I can't wait to see what next month's Zogby poll looks like.
I'll bet you anything that Bush's approval will be at 40 and
his disapproval at 60.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:20 AM
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10. I'm only worried they'll do something to help boost it again
Nothing like a good old fashion illegal pre-emptive war to help boost your numbers
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:26 AM
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20. I Agree
I'm only afraid of what it will be, since I'm sure that boosting numbers was the goal of the Sunday 87 billion dollar disaster.

It's amazing how smarmy the administration that's "returning integrity to the White House" is willing to openly be! :spank:

Anybody but bush in '04! :bounce:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:26 AM
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21. Yeah like conveniently catch Saddam or Osama in
November '04. Not to worry though. These guys are so inept they could fuck up a cup of coffee.
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ameriphile Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:30 AM
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26. You can bet on that
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 11:31 AM by ameriphile
While these poll results are good news, we mustn't be led to think that they guarantee a Democratic victory next November. George Bush is expected to raise $200 million dollars for his reelection campaign-- that's one-fifth of a billion dollars, and that will buy Karl Rove's spin machine a whole country's worth of lies.

Americans must continue hammering away at this administration's weaknesses, and we must keep exposing their true motives. Don't dare underestimate them.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:37 AM
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27. Damn right! Kick 'em while they're down. Think if it as tough love.
They deserve it, be sure they get it.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:19 AM
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7. Lynne this is absolutely great news!!!!!!!
do you have a link? I'd love to get this out to everyone in my address book :)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:23 AM
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15. http://www.zogby.com
http://www.zogby.com

You can't miss it - right on their front page!
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:24 AM
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17. thanks Lynne!
n/t
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:09 PM
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37. YESSSS!
Who would have guessed that Bu**sh** was even dumber than everyone thought he was?
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:20 AM
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9. Get down baby! Get down!!!....
:hi:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:20 AM
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11. O.M.G.
O.M.G.!!!!

Zounds.

Eloriel
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:22 AM
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12. This next year is going to be
nothing but downhill from here. By election time, this guy will only be able to show his face at Republican fundraisers. He's liable to get lynched anywhere else. -Bill
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:26 AM
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24. Are you kidding? By next year, he'll even be embarrassed to...
> By election time, this guy will only be able to show his face at
> Republican fundraisers.

Heck, that's NOW!

Are you kidding? By next year, he'll even be embarrassed to show
his face there, 'cause they'll all be demanding to know why he
pissed away their $200 Million investment in him!

Atlant
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:55 AM
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32. I can stand a correction
Flight suit anyone?
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:23 AM
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13. No one gets re-elected with numbers like that.
No one.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:23 AM
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16. About time they started admitting the truth
Good news. The hypnotic trance is wearing off.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:25 AM
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18. Beeauoooutiful!
Prettiest sight to behold.

:kick: :kick: :kick:

WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :bounce:

DemEx
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:25 AM
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19. WOOHOO!!! But for 9-11, he'd be negative by now!!!
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:26 AM
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22. fyi - A DU thread about this poll from 4 days ago....
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:00 PM
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34. eep! I missed that one, but I'm glad Zogby wasn't the only one
thanks for mentioning this link!
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:27 AM
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25. Its All About The Energy.
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StopThief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:40 AM
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28. To be realistic. . .
Zogby is the only pollster that gives "Fair" as an option, and then counts it as negative. Yes the poll numbers have fallen way off, but some percentage of people that answer "fair" would certainly not consider it negative.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:41 AM
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29. Huzzah.
That cocksucker's going down. Here's hoping that this time next year the only thing he can get elected to is the Carlyle Group board of directors, with the other washed up conservatives like his dad and John Major.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:57 AM
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33. A board slot for aWol? Not with his track record, I'd think.
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 12:00 PM by TacticalPeak
snip
In a column posted yesterday on Salon.com, Joe Conason writes: "Preferring to avoid public scrutiny for obvious reasons, executives at the Carlyle Group usually say nothing about their firm's connections with the Bush dynasty. But last April 23, Carlyle managing director David Rubenstein spoke quite frankly about the comfy sinecure he provided to George W. Bush more than a decade ago -- and how useless Bush turned out to be. Whether he knew it or not, Rubenstein's remarks to the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association were recorded."

Rubenstein said, "We put (Bush) on the board and (he) spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.

Rubenstein continued: "He said, well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board. And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things."
snip

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3994.ht...
link also links to recording
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:42 AM
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30. fyi. another nice pic and thread:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:04 PM
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36. You know what bugs me about that graph
This guy has been given TWO opportunities to redeem himself in the polls with events that elevated his numbers and had folks jumping on board to support him (9/11 and Iraq invasion).

If the guy was smart he'd work with the numbers, throw a few bones to us common folks in order to keep his numbers up there. But instead he'll get these sharp peaks upward and play on those numbers in the media even though he's sinking.

If you notice there are no upward sloping trends. Just sharp upward spikes and then slow downward slopes.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 11:42 AM
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31. Only one more hurdle to clear
He will probably get a little boost by climbing on the 9/11 corpses again tomorrow, but that's pretty much it for anything positive for Smirk.

Na, na, na na na, na, hey hey hey, good-bye.

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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:02 PM
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35. I have not heard this today on the cable news channels.
Shock. Shock.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:17 PM
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39. For Rove, this is an emergency
I can hear him dailing up Frank Luntz (Repub Pollster and Psuedo MSNBC Political Analyst)

Rove: "Quick Frank ...cook some numbers and I'll get Chris Matthews to spin them for you!!!!"
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:23 PM
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40. Thank you. I needed to see this today. I am happy!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:48 PM
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41. kick
:kick:
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