email [email protected] "Do you feel safer?"

[Rooktoven]

post 9/11 yada yada.

My response:

Do I feel safer? Not in the slightest. I think Bush allowed the attacks to happen and then used them to whip America into a state of perpetual fear. I won't feel safe until this craven pretender is removed from the White House.

Have fun.

[The Blue Flower]

1. My response

I'd laugh if I wasn't so very, very afraid for this country's future. This administration, the one that ignored multiple warnings of the 9/11 attack from security agencies all over the world, that ordered a stand-down of our air defenses over Washington DC and NYC, that used the disaster to shred our civil liberties, that used the disaster as an excuse to initiate their plan of world domination, that used the disaster as an excuse to destroy a crumbling sovereign nation without UN legitimacy, is in the process of destroying our economy for generations to come -- all without addressing the real source of terrorism in a realistic manner.

I haven't felt safe since the Republican coup of 12/00. And my fear increases daily, not because I am afraid of terrorists, but because I'm afraid of the sheer incompetence and criminality of my own government.

[BigMcLargehuge]

2. what an AWFUL freakin' page...

How you found a link to the question of the day is beyond me. I dislike MSNBC for their attempts to out-Faux, Faux (non)News, but their website takes the cake. It looks like they had a schizophrenic design it while awaiting a prescription refill...

Anyway, here's the response I WOULD have send.

Do I feel safer? Safer that what? Safer than I did before 9-11-01? Or safer than I did before AG Ashcroft gutted the essential protections as guaranteed by the US Constitution? Safer than I did before 2000 when the current administration subverted democracy? Safer than I did before 3 million people lost their jobs, a handfull of those casualties from my company? Safer tha I did before we entered a war without justification and presented on a litany of false pretenses, lies, and fabricated evidence? Safer than I did before 115,000 American kids were sent off to catch bullets for Halliburton? Safer than I did before the US government began "detaining" citizens and denying them the basic Miranda rights as guaranteed by US Juris Prudence? Safer than I did before our budget surplus was handed directly to the multinational corporations who invested their time and money in the Bush regime? Safer than I did before I knew the social safety net so carefully constructed by FDR was destroyed under the euphamism of "welfare reform"? Safer than I did when, exactly?

So, do I feel safer? No, and Al Qaeda has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[Rooktoven]

7. I don't typically visit the site, but I occasionally do watch

the cable show, especially mid day if I'm home for lunch or sick (like today)-- so I heard/saw the link. I'm a news junkie and CNN had Daryn Kagan fluff on. (sorry for redundancy)

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[BigMcLargehuge]

5. rolls eyes

yeah, we haven't been attacked again by Al Qaeda, you're right. But we have been attacked, all of us in the lower 99 percentile income brackets, by an administration and Replublican party bent on steering this once great democracy towards perpetual war, Christian theocracy, and both economic and social terrorism.

So yeah, we've been attacked, and the enemy makes its home in DC.

[calimary]

18. Hell, we're under seige!

The rethugs have declared war on everything that makes America - America!

[AWD]

6. Ahem...

...so that anthrax thing wasn't terrorism?

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[Frances]

11. So

The anthrax case has been solved.

Please give a link.

[buff2]

12. Foreign or domestic

IT'S STILL TERRORISM!! :eyes:

[calimary]

19. Well, that'd be easy to swallow unless you remember the recipients.

Let's all remember - NOBODY among the GOP got any anthrax threats. HMMM, funny, it was just Tom Daschle, Patrick Leahy, and a couple of news people. Why would there be threats sent to people capable of making change, or people capable of reporting that change?

MAYBE an isolated event. But considering what these people are capable of, and the depths to which they DO NOT MIND stooping to, it's just a teeeeeeeeeeeeny bit fishy-smelling to me.

[Rooktoven]

26. Anthrax only went to Dems

am I wrong here? I thought that stunk as it was happening. More fuel to the fear fire.

[LeahMira]

28. Safer? Or Saner?

<< Absolutely. We haven't been attacked here at home since 9-11, thankfully. >>


And before that? How long was it that we were not attacked?
We have had two years of alleged safety. Is there any reason to believe that an attack will not happen tomorrow?
I don't think there is.
Is there any reason to live in constant fear of an attack?
I don't think so. Let's not focus so much on fear that we are blinded to what is positive and what the possibilities are for making things even better for all of us. Fear paralyzes. This country has lived in fear far too long. Time to get moving again!

[newyawker99]

29. Hi LeahMira!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Fenris]

4. Well, gee, seeing as since 9/11 we've managed to actually turn

our own allies against us, we've invaded 2 (TWO) countries and unbuilt what was already a severely damaged infrastructure, killed thousands of innocent civilians in the name of freedom, and have done little to improve the security of this country aside from making people wait in longer lines at the airport, consolidating bloated government departments into one massive bloated government department, creating some sort of bizarre concentration camp in Cuba, and arresting suspicious Arabs we think might be terrorists, I really can't say that I feel safer.

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[BigMcLargehuge]

13. in only four posts I see three RNC talking points...

Liberated? Well we certainly "liberated" about 30,000 of them from their addiction to oxygen, water, and food... But you're right, we didn't go there to kill innocent civilians, we went there to secure oil drilling sites, equipment, and profits for Halliburton. And while we are on the subject of liberation, let's talk about the oil we are "liberating" from the Iraqi citizenry too.

The entire idea that Iraq needed "liberation" from Saddam Hussein is laughable. Our great "humanitarian quest" to "liberate Iraq" is transparent to the eyes of every other country on Earth.

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[buff2]

17. What about bu$h?

Look at all the lives that idiot has cost. Bu$h---America's first Hitler. Nuff said.

[BigMcLargehuge]

20. An absolutely silly comparison

Hell, throw in Mao, Pol Pot, Pope Urban the II, and Ghengis Khan while you are at it...

Saddam Hussein's torture chamber differ exactly how from those of:

Pinochet
Charles Taylor
The Duvallier family of Haiti

Three oppressive, terror secured regimes that we not only LEFT in power but ENCOURAGED for years (and in some cases DECADES) because they were friendly to US business interests...

Stalin, Hitler, they controlled WORLD POWERS, and we didn't go to war with Nazi Germany to "liberate" it, we went to war with them because they declared war on us following Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.

We didn't go to war with Stalin because FDR believed Stalin was a "man he could deal with" and the extent of his crimes against the Russian people were UNKNOWN outside the USSR, and there isn't any reason to believe we would have done anything about it either. We KNEW his military was more numerous and better prepared than ours at the end of WW2, and that didn't change until the mid 1980's.

[chiburb]

21. If you haven't been tombstoned yet...

And you know so much, just how many Iraqis do YOU think have died since our invasion? And while you're at it, how many did Saddam kill?

[stanwyck]

23. OK. Where were you when the Saddam was

murdering these people? Were you protesting? Were you bringing this to the world's attention? Did you vilify Reagan and Bush (I) for being Saddam's buddy...while he was using biological weapons on his own people? Why the DELAYED (by over a decade) outrage? Did you condemn Donald Rumsfeldt for having his photo taken with his arms around Saddam? Did you decry the selling of arms to Saddam? By Reagan and Bush (I)? Have you made your anger known at the Reagan and Bush administration supplying the seed chemicals to Saddam? Your posts ring false. Your conscience seems to have quite a time delay.

[disgruntella]

24. he was back at the mothership

www.trollworld.com

[jayfish]

27. Hmmm...

Lets see, Stalin killed MILLIONS but we did not liberate the people of the CCCP. Do you think that if Hitler had not taken half of Europe and declared war against the US that we would have lifted a damn finger to stop the slaughter of Jews in his own country. What about the 1.7mil(est.) murdered in Cambodia. How about Edie Amin in Uganda. What about Tiananmen Square and China in general. What about the million who have died in North Korea from starvation. What a laughable fucking argument. The historical use of the US military as a tool for liberation or the defense of human life and or rights is one of inaction.

Jay

[calimary]

16. And, hey, didn't we do great liberating the arms from that little boy?

Talk about disarming Iraq. I stole that from a thread here a few days ago.

[buff2]

14. The big question is this:

Do you approve of the job bush is doing??? :think:

[stanwyck]

25. Look, your stripes have been shown already

with that ridiculous post last week about 9-11..."Do you remember? Touching" That was a retread freeper post from months ago. You even used the same subject line.

[hang a left]

22. excuse me but what the hell

are you doing on this board. aren't your friends over there at freerepublic providing you with tantalizing conversation eh?

[hang a left]

9. The question really is

Do you feel safer since January 2001?