Anyone watching tonight's Frontline on Wahabbism in Saudi Arabia??

[SmileyBoy]

I'm a Muslim myself, but I just think this is SCARY. They're now talking about how they write books on how women are inferior.

On right now in the Central Time Zone.

[SmileyBoy]

1. Anyone??

[AlCzervik]

3. i will be at 10:00 pm pacifc time....damn you pacific time!!!

[Huckebein the Raven]

2. I'm going to watch the rebroadcast later tonight

[Mika]

4. Yep

Pretty much a whitewash in the name of Bushco Crime inc.

Frontline is infected w/reichwingers.

[Cleita]

5. I can't get it until tomorrow.

My PBS is usually a day later than anyone elses on satellite.

[MattNC]

6. watched all of it

Great work from Frontline as usual. Thought they could've devoted a little less time to the history of the Saud family, and given a little more to the U.S.-Saudi relationship, as I thought that's what the program was supposed to be primarily about.

[Historic NY]

7. Just finished with it.........

interesting program...mostly about the royals trying to save their butts after all the deals they have made over the years.

[candy]

8. I watched the entire thing and found it fascinating.

The Kingdom seems to be in trouble,though. Scary stuff.

I am also old enough to remember most of the events which made it more interesting for me.I go back as far as The Kingdom does.

[Mika]

10. Did you notice the lack of mention of the Bush fam?

Or how about Frontline repeating the falsehood that Iraq had its army on the Saudi borders during GW 1, (Frontline neglected to mention that Dick Cheney and James Baker faked the evidence and then showed the Saudi royals).

Hmmm.. neglected to mention the Bush/bin Laden connection to oil companies and certain purches.


It was very one sided. Pro Bush agenda.



on edit: Frontline did a detailed list on saudi terrorist kill count in this Iraq invasion, but completely neglected that the US has killed AT LEAST 100,000 Iraqi civilians.

[candy]

12. It was a piece on The Kingdom and the House of Saud.

That's exactly what they covered.

Had they gone into all the other issues involving other countries over the last 72 years it would take hours more than the 2 allowed.

I thought it was very well done.

[6th Borough]

16. Exactly. I think some were thinking of "House of Saud, House of Bush"

...the book which covers what Mika mentioned.

This program was not billed as a documentary version of that book; simply an interesting history on the Saudi royals and some of the problems it confronts now, in the past, and those that lurk ahead.

Just insert Bush everytime "Western influence" is mentioned to get a desired effect.

[bloom]

9. I thought it was pretty interesting

seemed like they left out a lot about how much the US helps Israel. (Like they mentioned aid we gave them in '73 as if that were it).

It made me wonder if the US gov't is planning some sort of attack on SA - getting people ready.

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I suppose the Wahabbi are sexist. But quotes could be lifted from fundamentalist Christians that would be similar. This is something I was reading the other day. If you read the whole thing - it does rather seem the (male) writer supports sexism as if it's prevalence through different cultures makes it a truism or something.

"Since a large number of people in real life are unaware and out of touch with emotion and reason, the tendency will be for more men to have the irrational sentiments, and more women to have the irrational opinions. This theory seems no worse than one of a universal patriarchal conspiracy when such stereotypes seem to occur in most historic cultures. "

http://www.friesian.com/gender.htm

[madfloridian]

11. It left out so very much.....it was like the Saudis telling on themselves.

Or something like that. The Bush got off without a blemish.

As I posted in the other thread, the Saudis admitted that they were the insurgency in Iraq. I taped it, but I am pretty sure that is what they said. Not a surprise, but a surprise to hear them admit it and say it would continue while we were there.

[candy]

13. It was a 2 hour show---they covered what they set out to cover.

[bloom]

14. It did *credit* B**h with

saying something early in his first term like that he was supporting Sharon and it was all up to the Palestinians to change. (So that was something...)

And that he didn't make a formal statement in support of the peace process until a couple days before 9/11.

[quiet.american]

15. One of the things that really struck me was when --

Prince Bandar was directly asked about his role in misappropriating billions of dollars in real estate development funds, in other words, his role in rampant corruption, and after a laughable attempt to justify it, he shucked the pretense and said (paraphrasing a little), "So fifty billion dollars is gone -- so what? I'm saying to you, so what?"

No wonder he's Shrub's best bud.

That aside, this program went a long way towards giving me real insight into why the constant refrain "they hate our freedoms" doesn't even begin to cover the relationship between Saudi Arabia and the United States.