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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:18 PM
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We are 59 Million strong - act like it - let's organize a boycott strat.
"we have the power"... Dean was right...so let's use it.

Rethugs and corp. only know two things --- $$$$$/power.

Let's organize a monthly "campaign" based on logic...promote it in the press...let the company know and measure the results.

Repeat step one.... they will start to listen.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:20 PM
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1. Boycott Fox advertisers, Joe Scarborough advertisers
I'll sign up for that
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:22 PM
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3. let's organize around "x vendor"....state the reason....send massive
letters...don't buy the product....

change to another product for next month and talk about it constantly.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:30 PM
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8. By vendors, do you mean advertisers of certain shows?
Or do you mean something broader than that??
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:33 PM
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10. our "buying strike" should be focused on a "product and/or issue" and
be relentless....everyday tell people or write every other day.

tell abc and nbc we know they are cowards for truth....pick thier commericla supporter and write them...be reletnless


cut the propaganda....make them pay $$$$$$4
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:53 PM
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16. I agree with you
wouldn't it be cool to say, 'if you voted for Kerry in the last election, here's how to make your voice heard. For the month of March don't buy product x or whatever. If 59 MILLION people all did the same thing in unison, more or less, believe me it would be noticed!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:55 PM
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17. pick a vendor from the "tweety the liar's show" and "broadcasted"
out to who we are boycotting and why....becuase tweety is a propaganda stooge for bush.

and write the company repeatedly
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:04 PM
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18. The "in unison" part is key -- that's a very good point n/t
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:20 PM
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2. Buy Blue's a good start
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:24 PM
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5. http://www.choosetheblue.com
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cube jockey Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 02:24 AM
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27. Check out their Valentines Campaign - There is the focus
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:23 PM
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4. Getting Past the 5 stages of BUSH GRIEF
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:23 PM by ClayZ
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:27 PM
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6. Great Ideal, let them have it one at a time, I'm ready to fight
:kick:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:29 PM
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7. which product can we clearly impact for feb-march.............?
talk about every day (not to buy)...tell your friends

ideas: who sponsors scarborough head?
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 PM
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13. Hey, what about this since you mentioned Scarborough?
I've been running around DU trying to get people to e-mail MSNBC because of some particularly awful crap Scar-butto did to Dems this past week. See this link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1552474

I'm sure I could slap together a list of other awful stuff he did (MediaMatters website has a ton on him I bet).

Then bomb his advertisers and MSNBC with letters saying we're boycotting their products until he apologizes & shapes up.

Doable do you think????

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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:32 PM
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9. You mean like the underwhelming success of "Not one damn dime" day?
The problem is we are not 59 million strong. Their is no common tie between the 59 million that voted against Bush except the fact they voted against Bush. After that they went their separate ways. I didn't see them at the protests around the country, no matter how creatively you count the number of protesters. Where are they? They have moved on and are living their lives.

I am not saying that there aren't quite a few people that have doubts about the election or that would rather have Bush out of office. I am simply stating the fact that we are not "59 million strong".

BTW, NODD didn't even have real support here in a forum that DOES have some common bond. As I have heard before, there are 60K members and I would be amazed if 2K participated in any degree.

Realistic protests get results and gain respect and followers. Unrealistic protests case derision and erosion of the ranks. Perhaps that is why people stopped having "Million (enter race/gender) Marches". It became a joke when only a few thousand people showed.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:34 PM
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11. spreading the word on AAR, Democracy Now, etc.....every outlet
we can do this
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 PM
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14. So why did NODD fail so miserably? It was on AAR. It was pushed
for months. It was on all the left sites. It was in many mainstream newspaper editorial letters. It was even mentioned on FOX. Yet I have yet to see even one article showing any effect or even someone noticing it happen. And that includes the Indie press. The only thing I ever heard about it after the fact was that Fox had made fun of it's failure.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:43 PM
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15. focus on a product - put the vendor in the "spot light"
start with tweety's show since he likes to lie

pick a company ...write to them and boycott
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:08 PM
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19. Wasn't NODD focused specifically on the stolen election?
If that was the case, that narrowed the potential participants. (Was it or am I wrong about that?)
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:16 PM
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21. we can focus on vendor and make them pay for sponsoring propaganda
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:50 PM
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23. Have you noticed the responses to this thread? Maybe 10 people?
Go ahead and try to get a movement HERE first. I am saying you can't do it. I have watched too many of these threads die. That is my point. This is in the same league as the "Million (insert race/gender) Marches. If you can't gain traction at the DU how do you expect to do it in the general public?

The closes this as come to working here is the general dislike of WalMart. That emotion wasn't generated here, though, it was brought in with the people who already held it. Even then, there was/is not a unified opinion. You have a hardcore group of WalMart haters and then those that dislike their practices and try to purchase elsewhere and, finally, those that like the price and convenience of shopping there. There is no boycott of even WalMArt.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:09 PM
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25. it's frustrating alright -- there needs to be much better organization
The left needs to get better organized (they need a management consultant, like me!!) They can't possibly "boycott WalMart" -- it's too damn huge. And the NODD was doomed to failure -- not enough publicity, only a small fraction of people on board with the issue, an absurdly large boycott target (the whole US economy!!!), etc.

Nobody seemed to like my idea when I mentioned it on one of the posts above, but boycotting advertisers of specific shows would be much more practical. To be effective at something like this, you'd have to have: 1) a very narrow focus; 2) a specific, tangible goal that is communicated to the target of the boycott; 3) quantifiable, measurable targets for the steps you've determined are necessary to reach that goal, 4) a plan for publicity, and 5) a method of engendering enthusiasm and commraderie among the the people willing to participate and the means of providing constant communication, feedback, and revision based on progress/obstacles.

Well, what the hell, I'm going to do some research and try to find out if anybody has tried to boycott Sean Hannity or Joe Scarborough's advertisers before. It's probably been done but it can't hurt to see.
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WrtMandamus Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 PM
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12. good post
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:15 PM
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20. I'm with you but many of that 59 mil are just too damn comfortable!
One small step: speak out when you get a chance. Not viciously, but measured and logically. Educate people at their level of understanding. I have found that most Americans are just simply brain dead from the boob-tube and haven't even tried to think on their own. Give them something to think about. If you are talking to a dittohead, talk like Rush would talk but give them the truth. It's not a difficult as you may think.

One thing we can do is to stop all subscriptions of print media owned and controlled by Murdoch. Cancel subscriptions to DirecTV and other Murdoch controlled enterprises. We will need some sort of data mining to gather information on the print media I'm talking about but it can be done.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:18 PM
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22. or boycott a product on tweety's show - he supports propaganda and
lies for shrubya...so we will tell the vendor and not buy the product
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:00 PM
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24. Another dead boycott thread dropping like a rock.
I believe this has made my case for me.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 01:16 AM
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26. How about Clear Channel?
But if you are going to hound something, then you should hound it until it breaks. -- Boycotts (and other actions) take time to get going.

Clear Channel stock is doing better than it was, but this could change.
http://yahoo.investor.reuters.com/SellAlerts.aspx?ticker=CCU&target=sellalerts

And too many targets usually means too little net effects.
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