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Peak_Oil Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:10 PM
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International criminal tribunal for Afghanistan finds GWB....
Guilty of waging a war of aggression on Afghanistan, war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Afghan people, against prisoners of war ; and the use of radioactive depleted uranium weapons of mass destruction , against the people of Afghanistan ; with serious fall out effects on the military personnel of the United States ,UK and other forces deployed ; and on countries, in and around the region .

I'll quote a couple of paragraphs.

The objection raised to the exercise of jurisdiction by this Tribunal on behalf of the Defendant, by amicus curaie ; and the United States government claiming "impunity" in various forums , against indictment for war crimes ; is best answered by the undertaking given to the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg , by the Chief Counsel for the government of the United States of America , Mr. Justice Robert H. Jackson , who stepped down temporarily ,as Judge of the United States of America , to represent the United States before the Nuremberg Tribunal , established pursuant to the Moscow Declaration and the London Agreement of 1945 , to which the government of the United States was a signatory . Justice Jackson categorically declared that:



" If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes , they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others , which we would not be willing to have invoked against us ……."



In view of this position taken before the Nuremberg Tribunal , the Defendant is liable not only before this Tribunal ,but the entire claim of ‘impunity’ of the government of the United States, is legally untenable ; no government can surrender the right vested in its citizens to invoke International Criminal Law, not by a Resolution of the Security Council nor by bilateral treaty.

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Afghanistan-Criminal-Tribunal10mar04.htm

It makes for fascinating reading. I guess these guys are serious about this.

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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:40 PM
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1. Now thats something you would never hear about from the corporate media.
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 10:53 PM by Goldeneye
I'm only about 1/4 of the way through now...thanks for the link though...definately some good stuff.

here's an interesting clip....at least they know we aren't all crazy

This witness further deposed that the terrorist attacks of 11th September 2001 were used to create paranoia among the people ;there was an attempt to create a war hysteria .The media in particular was immediately mobilizing people for war ; on the other hand the anti- war movement was supported by thousands of Americans across the United States who did not support a war on Afghanistan ; even some of those who were affected by the 9.11 terrorist attacks and had lost their loved ones .

Ms Gloria Lavera, President of the press workers union , the Union of Typographical Workers gave detailed evidence on the use of the print and television media to create mass hysteria ; and on the deteriorating situation within the United States for the freedom and democratic rights of citizens ; with workers losing jobs , facing repression, and reductions in their social security benefits ;the witness mentioned that immigrants were detained in hundreds without trial and no access to legal counsel .Simultaneously surveillance commenced, on different groups and individuals ,by intelligence organizations within the United States including illegally accessing their internet., telephones , and even libraries to verify their political beliefs .In this atmosphere , the Patriot Act was passed , sacrificing political freedom in the name of National Security; authorizing detentions and extensive surveillance of law abiding citizens. In answer to a question from the Tribunal , as to in whose interest the Patriot Act was passed ; this witness replied that it was passed in the interest of the Corporations in the context of mounting job losses .


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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:51 PM
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1.The Defendant is a convicted war criminal consequently unfit to hold public office ; citizens ,soldiers and all civil personnel of the United States would be constitutionally and otherwise , justified in withdrawing all co-operation from the Defendant and his government ; and in declining to obey illegal orders of the Defendant and his administration ;including military orders threatening other nations or the people of the United States on the basis of the Nuremberg Principle, that illegal orders of Superior must not be obeyed.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:14 PM
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3. All good stuff,
no doubt, but unfortunately this is another of those bullshit tribunals that academic progressives are so fond of convening because they lack any real power or responsibility.

Better they should spend their resources elsewhere rather than in narcissistic and practically unreported tribunals that would only cause laughter among the FReepers if they bothered to think of it at all.

No wonder we no longer win elections.
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