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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:03 PM
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Bush is about to commit the ultimate crime.....in Iraq
After all the votes are counted, Bush will proclaim victory. His State of the Union Address will be peppered with "freedom", "victory", "liberty", and he will proclaim that the Iraqi people are now free.

His speechwriters are using Roget's Thesaurus to get the wording right, at this moment.

What will he have accomplished? He'll buy himself some time. Time to move quickly and establish the 14 bases that the US is building in various parts of the country. Time is not on his side. As the fuse is burning, frustration and hatred and terrorism threatens our tenure in the Middle East.

It did not turn out as they assumed in the beginning. While Bush has been the eager cheerleader, urging Iraqi people to "dodge the bombs" and vote "for Freedom", for "Family", it's important to realize that the US at first didn't want national elections.

There's an article on Counter Punch which explains what happened. After the uprising in 2003, it became clear that the US could not rule Iraq directly any longer. It was impossible. They decided to compromise, and brokered a deal with Al-Sistani to hold elections.

The elections will strengthen the US hold on Iraq, not lessen it. The winning party will be a puppet to the US. Bush will have a much greater stranglehold on the country now. He will use the results, meager though they may be, as a cover to our legitimacy.

Now, we're not the Occupiers. We're the helpers.

And ultimately, the Iraqis will pay the ultimate price. Under the guise of free choice, Bush will hijack their hopes, their dreams, and turn it into his Asset.

Not only has he demolished the country by bombs, bullets and torture. Now he is about to commit the ultimate crime. He's going to wrap his tentacles around their psyches, their hearts and take what's left.

Much worse than bombs, in my opinion.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:07 PM
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1. Well, he's gonna try.
They'll get civil war. We'll have OUR hopes, dreams, and future hijacked.

It's all gonna be real fun.
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luaptifer Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:11 PM
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2. just a little bit of repackaging in the process
don't forget the repackaging process that's gone on

QUOTE(Mac2 @ Jan 30 2005, 11:57 AM)
Very good post. With you and keeping my hopes high!

- There is nothing to be gained from the pessimism....Nothing!


it's important to recognize the stacking of the deck here. that we've already gone in and determined the structure of their legal systems -- eg., anyone remember the intellectual property law we've established already -- and so, forcing the election to occur in the middle of a war where the candidates have no names and are running against, eg., iyad allawi, one of the few highly recogniaable-names that ANYONE will have had in their face, stacks the deck in favor of allawi, our hand-picked CIA guy.

thus, when the results of THIS election go to formulate a constitution, the deck's already been stacked, reshuffled and restacked, so on, a couple of times now. don't be deluded by the smoke and mirrors tricks along the way that what comes out of here will be a free-and-fair choise of iraqis.

i concede that it's moreso than they've ever experiienced. but never lose sight of the fact that when you ensure that the founding fathers are hand-picked by the US and then reshuffled from "CPA" to "interim gov" to "IGC" to "iraqi-elected" who'll then base the consitutioin upon the legal structure we set as the basis for how they will determine the consitution, it's the same strategy of repackaging in shiny new wrapper while allowing the american attention span attrition process to play out.

and voila, the other side leaves us marvelling at the new miracle product of our neoCONs. what went before is always important in determining what comes next.

pessimism? no just reality.


and we walk away thinking 'how wonderful'!

- luaptifer, reporting from the state of orwell

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:14 PM
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3. You're giving the guy WWWAAAYYYY to much credit and the Iraqi people
way too little. This isn't the first occupation they've had to deal with. The Iraqis know what's happening. Why would anyone suppose that they are just going to roll over and allow their country to be hijacked by some fake Texas AWOL cowboy who couldn't win a fair election himself?

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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:35 PM
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6. Good point, Acm.
I was just horribly discouraged when I saw the photo on Yahoo News. There was a long line of hopeful-looking people. One said, "This is democracy". My heart broke when I read that.

Hence the rant.

Of course, you're right. These people are no fools. And they're tougher than I give them credit for.
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The Sad Little Pony Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:13 PM
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11. "This isn't the first occupation they've had to deal with"
When was the last?
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:26 PM
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4. Yes, the liberty and freedom thing is just a guise....
There are people over there salivating over the flat tax and the belief that they can exploit this place to a degree that will make Enron and other bad business enterprises look like a walk in the park.

There was one congressman interviewed a while back...and I wish I could remember his name...southern chap...but he put it something like this when asked by Chris Matthews...."hey, I thought you guys said that the war would be paid by oil".

His answer went like this.....
You can't imagine the future for a place like Iraq. This is just the beginning. You see the potential is there for this place to be a mecca of business second to none in the world (I drew at this point mental imagines of Hong Kong, with spralling buildings, modern transportation, etc). Not only will American business thrive there, but the rest of the world will be invited in on this almost unlimited wealth (I thought, well isn't that gracious of him to offer up that the US would finally allow others in on the prize, yeah right).

So...in other words....don't view the 300B spent so far as anything other than a down payment on what will be harvested well into the future (by the gleam in his eye I knew he meant trillions)

So if you're trying to rationalize how these people can support this bloodshed and insanity...try to think of it in these hollow bad business ideologies and you'll start to realize what's really going on over there.
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:32 PM
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5. Sigh
> will make Enron and other bad business enterprises look like a walk in the park.

Considering three of the top people from Enron have been placed in control of the Oil business in Iraq, you aren't kidding. Bushie will completely destroy that entire country and make sure millions of Iraqi children starve to death. He's already killed about 100,000 of them. The man has absolutely now morals.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:39 PM
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8. Well, that certainly explains our willingness
to spend unlimited sums for money. And for what? we keep asking ourselves. THEY seem to have the answer, though.

This is what I can't understand. Why do they feel Iraq would be such a business Mecca? I don't get it. And why would they blast their way in? That's not how businesses are typically run. It's the Market Place. Laissez Faire, and voluntary exchange of goods and so on.

This is just complete lunacy at work.

Down payment, huh? Well, I'm glad the man does not have access to my check book.
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:50 PM
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9. Yes you're right.....it's a huge stretch of the imagination...
to think that this enormous US sponsored gas station would blossom into such a metropolis.

Truth is, there will be a limited number of people that benefit from these sleazy enterprises.

But as always....what we see in the freepers is this ongoing "dream" of success that they relive day in and day out. This is the sick camaraderie that they share with each other. The chances that they will actually participate in the dream ironically decays each day they are in power, but they still revel in the thought.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:38 PM
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7. These are the reason why the Sunnis did not go to the polls so the World
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 01:39 PM by GetTheRightVote
will know that they will not be pushed to the side by * and his lies.

They are making a stand now today in the election polls by not showing up for the fake elections. There will be civil war and we will need to leave Iraq in the future. This war is far from over, it is looking like the minority in Iraq will save their country from the * planned take over and in the end their third party will have saved them as our third party is working at saving us from * and our own stolen election. Evil will be conquered by Good in both our countries. WE must support it and them in this attempt. I hope we all live to see this day, pray for the real pawns in this deadly game, our soldiers, bring them home soon.

:kick:
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:52 PM
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10. On a lighter note
today is the something-odd aniversary of the Tet Offensive
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