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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:48 PM
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Weird story--military orders up before 9/11
I have a student in my class who is otherwise pretty conservative who said his company, which is a defense subcontractor, got a big boost in orders a couple of months before 9/11. He said they usually only saw a surge like that before a military action like the Gulf War or Panama. He decided it wasn't a sign of foreknowledge though, because Bush otherwise seems so incompetent.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:49 PM
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1. Probably more to do with Iraq than 9/11.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:51 PM
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2. Bush campaigned on "finishing" his daddy's war against Iraq.
He was just getting the military to start stockpiling before the main event of his first term.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:51 PM
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3. Nailed.
:)
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:09 AM
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4. I agree
George was going to start the march into Iraq soon and the 9/11 incident slowed down entering into Iraq but as we see it gave him a better excuse initially to go into Iraq but I hope that excuse is coming back to haunt him!!!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:51 AM
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6. I hope you're right.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:15 AM
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5. The white house does not place military hardware orders
Ref "He decided it wasn't a sign of foreknowledge though, because Bush otherwise seems so incompetent."

That is the domain of ACQWEB - http://www.acq.osd.mil / - Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics.

....all matters relating to the DoD Acquisition System; research and development; advanced technology; developmental test and evaluation; production; logistics; installation management; military construction; procurement; environment security; and nuclear, chemical, and biological matters. In the exercise of this responsibility, the USD(AT&L) shall:

l Serve as the Defense Acquisition Executive with full responsibility for supervising the performance of the DoD Acquisition System.

l Chair the Defense Acquisition Board (DAB).

l Serve as the DoD Procurement Executive.

l Chair the DoD Ethics Council.

l Serve as the United States representative at the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Conference of National Armaments Directors and other multinational forums of armaments directors.

l Establish and publish policies and procedures governing the operations of the DoD Acquisition System and the administrative oversight of defense contractors.

l Prescribe the developmental testing and evaluation program (which excludes those statutory test and evaluation responsibilities assigned to the Director, Operational Test and Evaluation) including establishing and ensuring implementation of policies and program plans, including funding, for ranges and test facilities and also be responsible for the acquisition-related functions of weapons programs, including control of the elements of the OSD performing the acquisition-related functions of strategic and theater nuclear forces programs and tactical warfare programs.

l Prescribe policies, in coordination with the IG, DoD, and the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller), to ensure that audit and oversight of contractor activities are coordinated and carried out in a manner to prevent duplication by different elements of the DoD. The exercise of this responsibility shall not affect the authority of the IG, DoD, under the Inspector General Act of 1978.

l Coordinate research and development programs DoD-wide to eliminate duplication of effort and ensure that available resources are used to maximum advantage.

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l Develop, in coordination with the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (USD(P)), agreements with friendly and Allied Nations relating to acquisition matters.

l Establish policies relating to the capability of U.S. defense industry to meet DoD needs.

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l The Deputy Under Secretary of Defense (Logistics and Materiel Readiness)

l The Assistant to the Secretary of Defense (Nuclear and Chemical and Biological Defense Programs) (DoDD 5134.8)

l The Director of Small and Disadvantaged Business Utilization (DoDD 5134.4)

l The Deputy Under Secretary of Defense (Acquisition Reform)

l The Deputy Under Secretary of Defense (Advanced Systems and Concepts)

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l Ballistic Missile Defense Organization (DoDD 5134.9)

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:56 AM
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7. that's funny, don't most of those guys work for Rumsfeld?
And Rumsfeld works for Bush?

I'm sure Bush DIDN'T call up this guy's company that makes heating elements or something like that.

I relayed it essentially as he did with his interpretation.

Looks like this struck a nerve.
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