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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:04 PM
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Let's Reframe The Debate With The Religious Right
I know this has been discussed here in depth, however, I think it is important enough to examine one linguistic part of the debate.

The Republicans, as we know, have been very successful in reframing debates by inventing buzz words and phrases ("protecting marriage", "war on terror", "flip flop", etc) and using them so often and so consistently that the media picks them up and they enter the mainstream lexicon and they actually shape perceptions and opinions.

In that spirit, as a number of has have discussed, not ONE liberal or progressive elected official, nor any of us, should ever again refer to any of the leaders of the religious right without using the descriptive handle: Radical Cleric.

As in Radical Cleric Pat Robertson, Radical Cleric James Dobson, Radical Cleric Jerry Falwell. This should be used in letters to the editor, in discussions with workplace colleagues, everywhere and anywhere. The phraseology should become so commonplace that we force the media to adopt the language.

And this should just be the beginning. Any other phrases we should be using to retake the debate from the religious rightwingers?
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:08 PM
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1. Radical Cleric Is Good
As long as we use the term judiciously.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:08 PM
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2. FRIGHT-wingers
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:25 PM
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8. great description and its accurate!
Good show!
:toast:
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:09 PM
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3. That's what THEY call Progressive/Liberal Clergy
In my old home town Msgr Charles Owens Rice was also called a "Radical Priest" --- and he loved it as he picketed the homes of Draft Board Members, and fought for the poor and downtrodden. ;-)
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:10 PM
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4. I'll use the words Radical Cleric. I love it! So true.
How about Rapturists?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:12 PM
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5. I think I'm going to start calling them
anti-christians. They certainly aren't christian.

The singular of anti-christians, is of course, anti-christ.

The anti-christ George Bush has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:13 PM
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6. I LIKE IT!
Radical Cleric, kinda has a ring to it.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:20 PM
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7. "Radical Cleric" is a good phrase
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 05:22 PM by ailsagirl
Also, I would urge anyone interested in the linguistics issue to pick up a copy of George Lakoff's book, "Don't Think of an Elephant-- Know Your Values and Frame the Debate." It's described as "the essential guide for progressives" and it has loads of important info in it.

It's not a technical book (linguistics can be pretty dry) and it's not a long book-- but it covers all the important stuff.

I heard Dr. Lakoff speak last weekend and was impressed-- so was the packed house to which he spoke.

One of the last chapters is entitled, "What the Right Wants," and I found it rather disturbing. "On the whole the right wing is attempting to impose a strict father ideology on America and, ultimately, the rest of the world."

Has rather a sinister ring to it.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:49 PM
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9. Exactly. Totalitarian clerics, fascist clerics, corporatist clerics....
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 05:54 PM by blm
the religion INDUSTRY.
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