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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:36 PM
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Ann Coulter on Bush: "Maybe he is an Idiot"
http://www.anncoulter.org /

WHERE'S THAT RELIGIOUS FANATIC WE ELECTED?

Maybe he is an idiot. On the 32nd anniversary of Roe v. Wade this past Monday I was going to say "birthday of Roe v. Wade," but that would be too grimly ironic even for me President Bush told a pro-life rally in Washington that a "culture of life cannot be sustained solely by changing laws. We need, most of all, to change hearts."

Actually, what we need least of all is to "change hearts." Maybe it's my law background, but I think it's time we changed a few judges.


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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:38 PM
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1. check with the mods
but I believe it's (should be) illegal to post direct links to the demon
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:17 AM
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38. LOL!
:D
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:39 PM
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2. he's more a hypocrite than an idiot
though he's an idiot too.

and so is Ann, she's both too.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:40 PM
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3. A culture of life?!?!?!
yeah, George Bush cares SO much about life. Considering that he is responsible for the deaths of 100,000 Iraqi civilians and 1,400 American soldiers.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:47 PM
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6. What he means is
A pro-life culture. Republicans love stupid people who will overlook everything else and vote according to a single issue.

You are right though, how can the author of the bush family war in Iraq claim to be "pro-life" when he is responsible for killing that many people to advance his families business interests in the region.

I would love to have the mailing list of bush supporters. Somehow, I would find a way to mail every one a "personalized message" and "photo" of a dead or maimed Iraqi child along with a message.

"Thank you for liberating me from my family, two of my limbs, my eyesight, and the mineral wealth of my country which represents our national inheritance."
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:11 AM
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42. Pro Birth, not Pro Life. Get 'em here so we can kill them is not a
Pro Life stance.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:08 AM
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44. It sure seems to be :>)
Most pro-lifers are Christian republicans who support the NRA, the death sentence, and the war in Iraq.

This is why you must accept their bull-shit on faith alone.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:25 AM
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45. excellent framing. i want to steal that line, okay?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:00 PM
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51. No Prob.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:32 AM
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48. bumper sticker: Pro Birth is useless without Pro LIfe policies
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:01 PM
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52. Pro Birth is not Pro Life...shorter.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:40 PM
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54. How about
fetus loving people haters
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:20 PM
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17. Not to mention wildlife and the environment.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:30 AM
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46. Or the Earth in its magnificence period.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:25 PM
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19. ...or the record-setting number of executions in TX when * was governor
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skippythwndrdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:40 PM
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31. Thats one of the few things about him that I like.
I'm a proponent of executions for murderers, rapists, and those who molest children. I favor the gallows, it is cheap, easy, and if properly done, painless. I know that lots of folks here will probably flame me for this, but, hey...the party takes all types.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:00 AM
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33. Actually, it probably shouldn't be
...especially given the notoriously shoddy work done for Bush by Alberto "Hey, it isn't torture if we do it!" Gonzales in preparing summaries of Texas death penalty cases.

See the following articles:

The Texas Clemency Memos
by Alan Berlow
Atlantic Monthly, July/August 2003

Introduction:

As the legal counsel to Texas Governor George W. Bush, Alberto R. Gonzalesnow the White House counsel, and widely regarded as a likely future Supreme Court nomineeprepared fifty-seven confidential death-penalty memoranda for Bush's review. Never before discussed publicly, the memoranda suggest that Gonzales repeatedly failed to apprise Bush of some of the most salient issues in the cases at hand. (emphasis added--Rob)

(Subscription required to read complete article; first two paragraphs posted online)

....

White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales's Texas Execution Memos:
How They Reflect on the President, And May Affect Gonzales's Supreme Court Chances

by John W. Dean, June 20, 2003, FindLaw

Excerpt:

"During Bush's six years as governor 150 men and two women were executed in Texas," Berlow reports in the Atlantic, "a record unmatched by any other governor in modern American history."

From 1995 to 1997, Gonzales acted as his legal counsel when the then-Governor decided whether to grant clemency, or to allow the executions to go forward. What kind of counsel did Gonzales provide? According to Berlow, he "repeatedly failed to apprise the governor of crucial issues in the cases at hand: ineffective counsel, conflict of interest, mitigating evidence, even actual evidence of innocence." (emphasis added--Rob)

Berlow writes that the memos reflect "an extraordinarily narrow notion of clemency." They appear to have excluded, for instance, factors such as "mental illness or incompetence, childhood physical or sexual abuse, remorse, rehabilitation, racial discrimination in jury selection, the competence of the legal defense, or disparities in sentences between co-defendants or among defendants convicted of similar crimes."

....

Bush's 'Blind' Justice in Texas Executions
by Derrick Z. Jackson, July 2, 2003, The Boston Globe

Excerpt:

(Writing in The Atlantic Monthly, author Alan) Berlow cited the case of David Wayne Stoker. Stoker was executed in 1997 even though one key state witness recanted. Another witness lied about having drug and weapons charges dropped in exchange for fingering Stoker. Law enforcement officials lied on the stand about the exchange. A psychiatrist testified that Stoker would kill again without ever having examined Stoker. Another medical witness had lost his license years before for felony falsifications of evidence. (emphases added--Rob)

Gonzales wrote about none of this in his execution-day memo to Bush. (emphasis added--Rob)

There was the case of Billy Conn Gardner. He was executed in 1995 for a school cafeteria robbery and murder even though there were no reliable witnesses and there were dubious deals by prosecutors that resulted in witnesses with ulterior motives for fingering Gardner. Carl Johnson was executed in 1995 despite the fact that his counsel slept through significant parts of jury selection. Gonzales, in his death-day memos, neither reminded nor informed Bush of such mitigating factors. (emphases added--Rob)

When Bush ran for president, other states, most notably Illinois, were examining themselves for tragic flaws in the death penalty. Bush remained proud of his system in which he took a mere 15 to 30 minutes to review final pleas. He remained proud even after several newspaper investigations and a Columbia University study found massive evidence of legal, medical, and law enforcement incompetence or lying in Texas death penalty cases as well as racial and class disparities in sentencing. (emphases added--Rob)

....

The facilitator
By Alan Berlow
Salon.com, January 6, 2005 (free Salon Day Pass required)

Introduction:
When Alberto Gonzales briefed George W. Bush on the cases of Texas death row inmates up for clemency, his memos were so shabby they seemed intended solely to make it easy for Bush to send prisoners to their deaths. (emphasis added--Rob)

....

There's more at Center for American Progress' Web site. The page is actually about Gonzales, but scroll down to the section titled, "As Texas Legal Counsel" for more info on his tenure as Bush's chief legal counsel in Texas. Negligence, incompetence, telling Bush he didn't have to adhere to international laws (sound familiar?), it's all there.

Excerpt:

DEATH PENALTY MEMOS: GONZALES'S NEGLIGENT COUNSEL: As chief legal counsel for then-Gov. Bush in Texas, Gonzales was responsible for writing a memo on the facts of each death penalty case Bush decided whether a defendant should live or die based on the memos. An examination of the Gonzales memoranda by the Atlantic Monthly concluded, "Gonzales repeatedly failed to apprise the governor of crucial issues in the cases at hand: ineffective counsel, conflict of interest, mitigating evidence, even actual evidence of innocence." His memos caused Bush frequently to approve executions based on "only the most cursory briefings on the issues in dispute." Rather than informing the governor of the conflicting circumstances in a case, "The memoranda seem attuned to a radically different posture, assumed by Bush from the earliest days of his administrationone in which he sought to minimize his sense of legal and moral responsibility for executions." Atlantic Monthly, July/August, 2003 (emphasis added--Rob)
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:06 AM
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34. Vengeance is never Justice.
I do make an exception however for anyone who has a part in executing an innocent person. Judges, Jury, Lawmakers, Prosecutor. Execute them all if they support capital punishment they wont mind it being used against them when they take an Innocent's life... =)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:31 AM
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47. ChEAPER???? NOT! Appeal expense outweighs expense of housing
in a 3 X 5 cell much more expensive to execute than any form of death penalty. Not flaming just straightening.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:33 AM
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49. She didn't get her way now she's going to turncoat and call names and
hopefully go home and stay there! Too bad those Tucson guys didn't have better aim!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:44 PM
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4. Just because she now badmouths Bush does not change my
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 01:45 PM by BrklynLiberal
feeling that she is something that rose full blown from the slime of hell.
I hope that this comment now draws some interesting negative comments from the other side. Let's see how she deals with it when it comes from her own minions.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:50 PM
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21. Yes, I'd love to hear what Freepers have to say about this!
Not to mention the fact that the Bushies will REMEMBER that one!
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:50 AM
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39. That got me wondering, so I (shudder) peeked.
Mostly looks like they are agreeing w/her. *ush better start looking for cover, quick.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329355/posts?...
Don't worry. He'll get real religious before pushing through immigration reform. He always starts playing the religious card when he wants to distract people.

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This one is too reasoned, he's already getting tagged 'RINO'.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329355/posts?...
Personally I don't think Roe V Wade will ever be overturned and the only way will be to change people hearts and minds.
We need;
contraceptive education and availability - abstinance only education is NOT working.
a program (either federal but hopefully private) that will pay all pre and post natal care for mother and child for adoptive situations, many women (especially the young) get abortions because they think can not afford in $$ what a pregnancy costs (sad but true)

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OK, just plain creepy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329355/posts?...
Each and every major social problem we have in this country is caused by sin.

Abortion is about covering up the sin of those who sleep together outside of marriage.

Eliminating premarital sex eliminates sex ed, eliminates the worries of parents about their kids having sex and getting pregnant.

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The choir speaks!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329355/posts?...

That "speech" he made for the pro-life rally was not even a speech. He wasn't there. He called in on the phone even though the rally was right in front of his house."

Here, "inside the Beltway" that is known as "distancing" oneself. After all, they aren't useful any longer.

I'll take Annie's truth over W's any day. It's getting so
dicey that I am beginning to think that all the "born agains" who voted for him need to pray daily for God to hold his feet to the fire with regard to what he claimed to support during the election rhetoric and lay a "Mizpah" against the whole business. (Mizpah=God watch between thee and me)

God bless that woman. I'd vote for Ann over the W's any day.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329352/posts?...

I would love to see her on the Supreme Court.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329355/posts?...

Please get married, Ann, and bring us joy with a little Ann or Andy.
That would make a very powerful statement.
You too, Michelle.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329355/posts?...

response to #77, already removed by mods
#77
I would like to think that this does not show his priorities for abortion, but I fear it does. Bush has done very little in his first term about abortion, and he has even tried to elevate pro-choice judges to high positions (Miguel Estrada among others). He must be held responsible by pro-lifers.

#86
The unpleasant truths that many on FR don't want to hear... but truths all the same. Keep telling it like it is.

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And then we have those who choose to blame a Clinton, yet again!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329352/posts?...
I suspect Hillary was trying to divide the pro-life movement between those who are against abortion in all circumstances and those who will make some exceptions. By implication she doesn't respect the latter (although of course she admires those who support abortion on demand).
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:12 AM
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50. Thanks for doing that djmaddox1...I just couldn't lol
Don't forget to do this after a visit to Freeperland!

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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:45 PM
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5. Don't worry Ann, Bush is going to grant your wish....
Bush is working on making the Supreme Court a totally anti-choice mess.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:49 PM
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7. she is an
idiot---a disgrace
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:07 PM
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13. I guess it takes one to know one.....BOY! .... Is she SLOW!!....EOM
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:51 PM
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8. Law background?!
That plastic Barbie (Ken?) doll has a law background.

Sorry for not knowing that (I don't spend too much time researching idiots), but who in the hell would hire her to defend them? A real judge would laugh her proposterous charges out of court - unless the court was stacked with some of those jesters she wants.
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Lenore Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:01 PM
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12. Who would hire (M)ann coulter??
Paula Jones.... Paula was (M)anns ticket into the limelight...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:16 PM
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16. wonder what her exact "law background" really is? anyone know?
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:04 PM
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24. law background
I think she got a parking ticket once.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:54 PM
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9. She's #4. Trying to distance herself, quick. Trust me.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:58 PM
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11. Maybe Chimp already cut off her payments,now she calls him an idiot..
You might be right,wonder what number Limbaugh carries??
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:57 PM
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10. And the right wing pole dancer whose whole act is designed to...
naughtily titillate her drooling audience performs another number.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:14 PM
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15. Ann--many in Congress have tried to pass laws even at the expense

of the mother's life-or rape.

From your link:

.....I've never heard of anyone who thinks abortion should not be "available" to save the life of the mother. There was never a law in any state that prohibited abortion to save the life of the mother. If Hillary "respects" even this (nonexistent) lunatic fringe of the pro-life movement, she must adore the rest of us! ........
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rqstnnlitnmnt Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:08 PM
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14. she always makes me think of what hannibal lecter said
to clarice when he was severely fucking with her mind..

something about being "no more than two generations away from poor white trash" or something like that, always trying to cover up the West Virginia accent
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:22 PM
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18. some background on Ann --says she is from Conneticut


http://www.yaf.org/speakers/ann_coulter.html

.....Prior to writing her bestseller, Coulter practiced law with the Center For Individual Rights, a public interest law firm dedicated to the defense of individual rights with particular emphasis on civil rights, freedom of speech and the free exercise of religion.

After law school, Coulter was admitted to the Department of Justice Honors Program for outstanding recent law school graduates, where she defended congressional legislation on child pornography, as well as various federal agency regulations and actions. Coulter has also worked for the Senate Judiciary Committee, handling crime and immigration issues for Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan.

She clerked for the Honorable Pasco Bowman II of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit and was a litigation associate in New York City with the law firm of Cahill, Gordon, & Reindell and Kronish, Lieb.

A Connecticut native, Coulter was graduated with honors from Cornell University School of Arts & Sciences, and received her J.D. from University of Michigan Law School, where she was articles editor of the Law Review.
.......
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:30 PM
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20. Wouldn't a genuine, non-statist, "small government" Republican
believe that "changing hearts," instead of "using the government" would be the answer?

Oh, that's right. I forgot that Ann and the rest of them are big-government, right-wing authoritarian statists.

My bad.

(And this actually might be the first time that I agree with George Bush. God help me.)
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:53 PM
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22. He IS an idiot, And so is Ann Coulter.
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Stephanjnj Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:02 PM
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23. Ann Coulter is one word away from being correct (first time ever!)
Just Remove the first word of the first sentence. End the article right there. Congratulations Mr/Ms Coulter, better that you divulge this fact late than never!
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:38 PM
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30. Yes, Amazing to be in agreement with Ann Coulter!
I wonder if she's getting any flak from the Right on this.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:10 AM
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35. Whatever it takes to make the news, thats Little Orphan Annie!
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:07 PM
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25. Men can butt out of the abortion debate?
Fine - we all will - as soon as we are allowed to avoid child support entirely if the woman wants the child and the man doesnt.

Fuck you Ann.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:29 PM
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26. ann's too old to spawn so what does she care
?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:42 PM
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32. I thought she was too man to spawn
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:11 AM
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36. Thought she was Spawn !
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:16 AM
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43. Best one liners of the day. ROFLMAO. eom
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:32 PM
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27. He is Ann. Maybe you are, too. "The Canadian army fought in Vietnam".
Dipshit.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:37 PM
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28. She deserves to deal with a
problem pregnancy and then let's hear what she has to say.

I am encouraged that she referred to * as a "fanatic" (true)
and I am encouraged that she called Chimp an idiot.

It's a start...

Damn, she's a weird one.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:38 PM
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29. Basically what she is advocating
is an activist court. Isn't that what the right is always complaining about? Activist judges?

They only want judges to be activist when it suits their agenda. Overturning an existing law that has existed for 32 years would be an act of judicial activism.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:15 AM
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37. YO (M)Ann!!
If you don't like abortion, don't have one...now go away.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:54 AM
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40. Her type never goes away!! -the smell lingers.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:58 AM
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41. I have said it many times
Calling * an idiot is not bashing coming from the right.
Idiocy is an endearing quality that got Bush elected!! ESPECIALLY with the prolife crowd.
These are the people that vote against their self interests.
How long did "Married With Children" run? Think of the qualities Al Bundy shares with * Wouldn't go to the trouble look a word up in a dictionary, doesn't care if he seems out of line socially, doesn't care about the world beyond his own little circle......
This is everyman who thinks it's cool that there's a guy like him in the WH. It's a compliment when an "elite" writer who would call him an idiot also calls * an idiot.
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elare Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:25 PM
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53. Maybe?
You mean there's people out there who have some doubt?
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