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poe Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:09 PM
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The Words of a Texas Republican, Rep. Ron Paul-Check This Out
Americas policy of foreign intervention, while still debated in the early 20th century, is today accepted as conventional wisdom by both political parties. But what if the overall policy is a colossal mistake, a major error in judgment? Not just bad judgment regarding when and where to impose ourselves, but the entire premise that we have a moral right to meddle in the affairs of others? Think of the untold harm done by years of fighting hundreds of thousands of American casualties, hundreds of thousands of foreign civilian casualties, and unbelievable human and economic costs. What if it was all needlessly borne by the American people? If we do conclude that grave foreign policy errors have been made, a very serious question must be asked: What would it take to change our policy to one more compatible with a true republics goal of peace, commerce, and friendship with all nations? Is it not possible that Washingtons admonition to avoid entangling alliances is sound advice even today?

Sadly, though, when governments, politicians, and bureaucrats make mistakes and refuse to reexamine them, there is little the victims can do to correct things. Since the bully pulpit and the media propaganda machine are instrumental in government cover-ups and
deception, the final truth emerges slowly, and only after much suffering. The arrogance of some politicians, regulators, and diplomats actually causes them to become even more aggressive and more determined to prove themselves right, to prove their power is not to be messed with by never admitting a mistake. Truly, power corrupts!

Its no surprise to learn that many of the new laws passed in the aftermath of 9/11 had been proposed long before that date. The attacks merely provided an excuse to do many things previously proposed by dedicated statists.

1. What if the policies of foreign intervention, entangling alliances, policing the world, nation building, and spreading our values through force are deeply flawed?
2. What if it is true that Saddam Hussein never had weapons of mass destruction?
3. What if it is true that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were never allies?
4. What if it is true that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein did nothing to enhance our national security?
5. What if our current policy in the Middle East leads to the overthrow of our client oil states in the region?
6. What if the American people really knew that more than 20,000 American troops have suffered serious casualties or died in the Iraq war, and 9% of our forces already have been made incapable of returning to battle?
7. What if it turns out there are many more guerrilla fighters in Iraq than our government admits?
8. What if there really have been 100,000 civilian Iraqi casualties, as some claim, and what is an acceptable price for doing good?
9. What if Rumsfeld is replaced for the wrong reasons, and things become worse under a Defense Secretary who demands more troops and an expansion of the war?
10. What if we discover that, when they do vote, the overwhelming majority of Iraqis support Islamic (Sharia) law over western secular law, and want our troops removed?
11. What if those who correctly warned of the disaster awaiting us in Iraq are never asked for their opinion of what should be done now?
12. What if the only solution for Iraq is to divide the country into three separate regions, recognizing the principle of self-determination while rejecting the artificial boundaries created in 1918 by non-Iraqis?
13. What if it turns out radical Muslims dont hate us for our freedoms, but rather for our policies in the Middle East that directly affected Arabs and Muslims?
14. What if the invasion and occupation of Iraq actually distracted from pursuing and capturing Osama bin Laden?
15. What if we discover that democracy cant be spread with force of arms?
16. What if democracy is deeply flawed, and instead we should be talking about liberty, property rights, free markets

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7903.htm
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:15 PM
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1. WOW!!
Let's hope that several more Republicans finally see that the country that they love is being destroyed with their help if they do not speak out.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:17 PM
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2. He could prove what he is saying by voting against Gonzales.
Finally, a Repulican with a conscience.

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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:21 PM
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4. He can't.
Members of the House do not vote on cabinet nominees - Article 2, Section 2, the "Advice and Consent of the Senate" clause.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:19 PM
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18. Right. Thanks for the correction.
I'll settle for speaking out against Gonzales.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:26 PM
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7. He's a libertarian
"republican" name only
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:19 PM
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3. kick
Ron Paul is our Ally! A Republican from Texas of all people is our ally! Strange, isn't it?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:22 PM
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5. wow... someone actually speaking the truth
pardon me while I relocate my jaw. :wow:

Thank you, Mr. Paul, for speaking like a true American.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:25 PM
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6. Ron Paul is a libertarian
I agree with his positions about 50% of the time on social issues and about 100% of the time on foreign policy matters.

An absolute World Class Rant.

Standing Ovation.

Encore

Encore
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:29 PM
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8. Number 9 is a trap for Democrats
What if Rumsfeld is replaced for the wrong reasons, and things become worse under a Defense Secretary who demands more troops and an expansion of the war?

Otherwise known as 'Doing an LBJ'.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:30 PM
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9. Saw this yesterday and was really impressed with how this guy put
all the problems into perspective just by asking 'what if' we're wrong. That's the problem, millions in this country won't even entertain the possibility that maybe it's THE UNITED STATES who's in the wrong here. And they dont' want to hear it.
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poe Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:39 PM
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10. What area of Texas does he represent?
I've heard him interviewed on Dem. Now several times and he is consistent in his anti-neoconazi sentiments. rove will probably send in a zell miller democrat to try to unseat him. when i went to ohio to monitor the recount i was very impressed by the libertarian contigency though i wouldn't say aligned. i think they were more rabid in their anti-buscheney feelings than any others. Paul is also an M.D. though probably not as into poking and dissecting as Dr. Frisacist aka Moreauman.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:42 PM
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11. Rural area west of Austin for the most part.
More likely challenge will come from a "true believer" Republican in the primaries. But he's popular with his constituency. Western Texas is very libertarian. Ron Paul was once the libertarian candidate for president, so he speaks to them.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:54 PM
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12. I checked his website
Looks like his offices are in Freeport and Victoria, suburbs south of Houston.

I see from your post that you are from Texas. Am I off ?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:57 PM
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13. Wow - his district has changed a lot...or else I could have been wrong.
His district MUST have changed... ;-)

Anyway...I would say his district is east of Austin and San Antonio and southwest of Houston along the coast.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:01 PM
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14. Mostly mid-coastal Texas
An area approximately between Galveston and Corpus Christi:

"Effective for the 2004 Elections, the 14th District includes 10 counties: Aransas, Brazoria (except the city of Pearland), Calhoun, Chambers, the western half of Fort Bend, the eastern half of Galveston, Jackson, Matagorda, Victoria, and Wharton."

http://www.ronpaulforcongress.com/html/district.html
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Sonora Nora Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:04 PM
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15. Paul's District
I used to live in his district... it's along the Coastal Bend of Texas from about Rockport up to Freeport, I do believe...also inland but how far north, I'm just not sure. Dr Paul was a great representative!
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:07 PM
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16. WTG Ron!!!
Wow, a Repub with a backbone.

Thank you Dr. Paul. For you are a great American.
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