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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:17 PM
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Cheney's better overcoat
After showing up dressed like a slob at Auschwitz, Cheney later appeared in a dignified, dark overcoat - proving that he does indeed own one.

Why couldn't he wear the dignified overcoat to the Auschwitz ceremony?



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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20...

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henrik larssonisking Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:19 PM
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1. playing devils advocate here
having been to Osweicm in January, its bloody cold, mayby hes dressed appropiatley for an old dude with heart problems.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:21 PM
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2. Uh huh.
Maybe it's because he's a cold blooded reptile.

:eyes:
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henrik larssonisking Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:23 PM
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3. the he definetly needs the parker mate
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:37 PM
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10. he can wear layers
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:25 PM
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4. Uh. Dress coats are warm too.
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 08:25 PM by charlyvi
And there are better looking hats to keep his thin little scalp warm; of course, the ski hat did cover his pointed little head somewhat. If he's too sick to be cold for one afternoon, he shouldn't be presi.....oops....I mean vice president.
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rqstnnlitnmnt Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:26 PM
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5. i am so sick of hearing about his god damn heart problems
that is no defense for being completely disrespectful and unthoughtful at one of the most solemn ceremonies of his life

couldn't he at least find a black parka, jesus
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:27 PM
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6. I would never miss an opportunity to rip Cheney but I agree with you
that weather looks darn cold. I would be wearing whatever I could to stay warm.

And even for a heartless bastard like Cheney, going to such a somber memorial in the dead of winter can't possibly be anything but a depressingly sad experience. Something about the way he is sitting makes me think maybe, just maybe, the old ghosts made him feel extra cold as he sat there. Time for some soul searching. Hope it did him some good.

And if he catches pneumonia, it's no skin off my nose.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:29 PM
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7. oh! It's cold! Well whoopdee-shit!
Somehow the dozens of other people somehow managed to dress appropriately.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:28 AM
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38. He dressed right for the Coronation. Was that warm weather?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:39 PM
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12. He's the Vice President Multi-Millionare-----get a black parka dude.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:33 PM
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8. Hey, it was effing cold there! I guess
all us DUers would have rather seen him catch a bad cold and develop pneumonia? :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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ban-one Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:34 PM
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9. next thing you know
Cheney and Chimpy will be walking around the White House in cut off shorts and their wife-beaters on.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:12 PM
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25. Hey!
What they do in their private lives, is their business!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:38 PM
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:40 PM
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13. Stop sympathizing for the damn nazi.
Yeah, it's cold, but you don't see anybody else dressing inappropriately, do you?

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Finding Rawls Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:44 PM
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14. I don't know who else is in the crowd is as old as dick
I saw Chirac and Putin, both considerably younger and in better health.

Really, OLD MEN NEED TO BE CAREFUL. THEY'RE OLD.

It's not as if this was a short ceremony. It went on for quite a while. This was not a slap in the face to any holocaust survivor.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:54 PM
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18. "Chirac...considerably younger" - No.
Chirac is 72. Cheney is 63.
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Maiden England Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:38 PM
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33. how about the survivors and liberators?
Who are all in their 80s and 90s.

Didn't see any of them resorting to parkas? Perhaps when they told Crashcart he was going to a ghetto he go completely the wrong end of the stick....

:evilgrin:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:44 PM
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15. cut it out will you?
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 08:45 PM by chimpsrsmarter
you're making excuses for Cheney???? And he's not that old, he goes ducking hunting just fine, he should have been respectful.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:45 PM
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16. Parka w/ white faux fur????
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 08:51 PM by Karenina
Crass. Another in-your-face "FUCK YOU" from the Dickmeister.

Those very staid well-constructed woolen coats worn by the natives are QUITE WARM. Gibt's keine schlechte Wetter, nur schlechte Kleidung.

GRAUSAM.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:00 PM
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19. Exactly. He knew what he was doing, and how it would look.
Washington was freezing on January 20. He was sitting outside for hours, and he looked presentable.

The questions I'm asking are, what message is he sending Europe with this disgrace, and why now?

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:58 AM
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34. It's the same procedure they ALWAYS use.
A STINK FINGER. *dauphin tramples the Queen's garden and traumatises her flamingos, he costs other people MEGABUCKS and makes a mess wherever his foot hits the tarmac.

Perle used to be the one spewing their shit on this side of the pond. I was often asked, "Who IS this guy? Nobody elected him!" And then there's that Rum feller, family so ashamed they disinherited him. There is quite an outrage that such a sorry excuse for an incompetent STILL has a job.

They work their magic on Americans with sound bite language. Whatever they say, expect the OPPOSITE OUTCOME. "Healthy Forests," indeed. :eyes: They piss in ANY FACE THEY PLEASE. JUST cuz they CAN.

I personally find this fuck-you-fashion statement to be REPUGNANT.

*SOCIOPATHS, ALL OF THEM.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:53 PM
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17. "He's an old guy." He's 63.
At his level, that's not so old.

The inauguration was cold, too.

And how old do you think this guy is?

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:04 PM
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23. He's an old, sick 63, though. Health matters as much as age.

Someone else should have attended, like Dubya himself.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:44 AM
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41. "He's old, sick"
"He's been dying of the same heart attack for years."

Above: great line from "The Godfather II", in which it was said of the gangster Hyman Roth. It also applies to Cheney.

Hell, that evil s.o.b. will probably bury us all. He's already buried at least 1400 of us.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:12 PM
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26. Who's idea was it to send crash cart out on a cold day anyways?
.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:13 PM
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27. Are you joking?
He's at Auschwitz. An hour in the cold with a formal overcoat is nothing compared to what people there went through. It's less than nothing. An hour's mild discomfort there is not even worth noting.

If anything, it would have given him a chance to contemplate what suffering others went through, either those who were imprisoned there, or the vets who freed them - despite there being snow on the ground and them not having fancy parkas.
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:18 PM
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29. They Make Long Underwear. They also sell Black Parkas
They also make plain black hats. They also sell wool lined dress pants. They also sell very nice dress boots that are extremley warm.

There is no excuse for his bad behavoir. It was poor taste. This man has been in public office for over thirty years. He knows how to dress. Quit it with the bad heart shit. It's a poor excuse.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:11 AM
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36. Exactly!
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 08:12 AM by Danmel
Certainly he knows what attire is approriate for this type of event.

If he thought what he was wearing was appropriate, perhaps he needs a neuro evaluation to determine whether he is becoming senile, or perhaps he is being unduly affected by his meds, or has inadequate blood flow to the brain.

If he knew it was not appropriate and wore it anyway, what exactly was he trying to communicate? And to whom?

Either way, the idea that this guy is a heartbeat away from the Presidency is pretty terrifying. Bush/Cheney- talk about a Hobson's choice.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:46 AM
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42. But the Depends won't fit under the long underwear!
It's complicated, see...
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:19 PM
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30. Horse hockey
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 09:26 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
I'm almost the same age as Darth Cheney, and I would never appear at a somber occasion dressed so inappropriately. When you people defend these monsters, it makes me want to :puke:.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:22 PM
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:09 AM
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35. your grandfather prolly ain't a war criminal
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:14 AM
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37. "You People?" WTF is that supposed to mean?
What "people" are you?

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:41 AM
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40. *sob*... I feel so... guilty...
Poor old grandpa Dick... he just wanted to be warm for a few more moments... the grave is a very cold place, and he doesn't have long before he's there...

Okay, I'm over it. Back to wishing that s.o.b. dead. Hey, look: if the U.S. can say things like, "the dropping of the atomic bomb on Japan actually saved untold thousands of lives", then I can say that Cheney's demise would certainly save untold numbers of lives. And may he rot in hell.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:49 AM
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44. Stop defending that prick.
There are warm coats available that are perfectly suitable for a dignified event such as this. You know it, I know it, everyone here knows it and Dick Cheney sure as fuck knew it.

Cheney's attire was deliberate. It was insulting and provocative and made a mockery of that solemn occasion.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:18 PM
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47. oh boo hooo
he wasn't the only one there...

just the only one with NO sense of decorum.


he is the damn vice pres...he knows HOW TO DRESS for the OCCasion!
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ban-one Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:01 PM
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20. don't forget
that he was in Poland. You know. One of the willing, i mean, bribed countries
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:02 PM
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21. cheney is the prez of vice..., errr, Vice President
I was under the impression that there are people who's job it is to make sure the ranking officials dress appropriately for whatever occasion?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:02 PM
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22. It is worth noting that the other men are wearing hats, too. OTOH,

with his money, I think Cheney could have purchased several layers of warm underclothes to boost the cold resistance of a dress overcoat and perhaps been just as warm. I think he could have found a dressier hat that would be as warm, though he probably didn't want to go with the Russian-style fur hat for political reasons. You'd think a guy "from" Wyoming would have more clothes for cold weather. We know he goes hunting, so he's got the clothes for that. . . I can identify with being really cold in Europe, so cold you can hardly breathe, but then again I don't go duck hunting in Wyoming!

If Cheney can't take the heat -- er, cold -- maybe they shouldn't send him to funerals and other solemn ceremonies in winter.

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henrik larssonisking Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:06 PM
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24. now im visualising him in mossy oak
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:48 AM
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43. Really?
You mean, with brass handles? :)
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HarrietBrown Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:15 PM
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28. I agree--he's got enough money to have something warm and decent
made up for him. As someone suggested, a black parka might have been a step up. And a hat that says "staff" on it? Come on. His behavior was rude and insulting. I am mortified that he was there representing me.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:20 PM
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31. Was he raised by wolves?
Cause he's now the VP of the United States and there is such a thing as protocol and showing respect. My grandfather knew how to dress. And I imagine the weather in Germany wasn't much colder than Chicago in January. When the wind comes off that lake, it's brutal. My grandfather had a long, bright red wool greatcoat he bought in Canada. He wore that coat with a black Russian style hat.
People remembered my grandfather.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:50 AM
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45. Perhaps he was raised by Wolfowitzes...
Anyway, when a man shows such a lack of respect and lack of decorum, people usually say, "I bet a tour in the military would straighten him out!" And, hey, it's often true: many a lousy-dressing young fool has had his appearance and demeanor improved by a stint in the armed forces.

So.... when and where do we sign him up?
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:15 PM
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46. well, the sixth deferment might be
a little elusive. He's already had five...back when Cheney had "other priorities". Five deferments. That must be some kind of record, even for a chickenhawk.
And thanks so much for the "raised by Wolfowitzes"...very funny.


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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:35 AM
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39. I wonder what all of the GOP apologists would have said...
.. had Cheney worn that ice fishing getup to the inauguration.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:22 PM
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48. likewise if it had been clinton
the media and every freep would be still jabbing about it
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:41 PM
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49. Hey, if Dick Cheney decides to wear a hat....
...that says STAFF to Auschwitz, well thats his personal choice.

Just because he represents the ENTIRE USA at a solemn FORMAL STATE CEREMONY
is no reason to criticise the poor old man!


/bitter sarcasm
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:53 PM
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50. His attire was a DELIBERATE
FUCK ALL Y'ALL. No more, no less.
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:05 PM
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51. With the millions of things that the neo-cons are doing wrong.
You bother posting this? I'd wear a parka, hat and gloves in the snow too.
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