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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:19 PM
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Bush isn't stupid.
He's crass, unsophisticated, brutal, unfeeling and elitist.

He's willing to kill for little more than political advantage.

He's corrupt.

He's vicious and vindictive.

He's unprincipled.

He will say or do anything to 'win', whatever that means.

But he isn't stupid. I wish he were.
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firebee Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:21 PM
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1. Not stupid... just extremely unwise
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:22 PM
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2. He's like an evil Tommy Smothers
n/t
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Been Fishing Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:50 PM
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18. Too funny
But I would elect Tommy in place of georgie.
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:23 PM
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3. Great.
So is this how we're to explain it to the rest of the world?
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:44 PM
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15. The rest of the world knows. They recognize the little corporal...
they've seen his kind before.

People thought a certain Austrian was stupid once, too. Threw him the Chancellorship of Germany as a sop to keep him under control.

That didn't work out too well.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:24 PM
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4. Devise and Duplicitous come to mind also - n/t
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:27 PM
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5. And I bet he has utter contempt for the people who "love" him
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:28 PM
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6. unless they're big donors - n/t
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Been Fishing Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:53 PM
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20. Then you sell them an ambassadorship. n/t
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:40 PM
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14. Utter contempt is his defining feature. Hence the smirk.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:19 PM
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30. Arrogance and utter disdain for those he feels are beneath him,
which I believe he believes is pretty much everyone.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:29 PM
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7. The antiChrist isn't stupid at all.
People think he mis-speaks and doesn't really mean all that bad stuff he does and would like to drink a beer with him. But he isn't stupid, just really evilly dumb.
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:30 PM
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8. Of course he is stupid
as stupid as stupid can be. He misses the whole point of being alive. He is a zombie on this earth. What is life without compassion and generosity of spirit? He is dumb, ignorant, and totally fucked up. Please don't confuse his ability to connive with wisdom.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:33 PM
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10. Don't confuse a lack of wisdom with a lack of intelligence.
or cunning or conniving or whatever you want to call it.

He's intelligent enough to know what he needs to know.
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:36 PM
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11. he is dumb enough to be the current winner
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 04:37 PM by Mend
of the most hated man in the world title.....
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:39 PM
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13. A'yup... As if it mattered to him. He's also the most powerful...
which probably DOES matter to him.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:32 PM
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9. Ummm...Yes..he is. Read this........
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:38 PM
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12. That isn't stupidity either.
It's an utter contempt for policy and an utter contempt for the people who read, I grant you. Bush's ability to slaughter the English language is a calculated part of his 'disarming country boy charm'. Just like his fake Texas accent (He grew up in a yankee household, for Chrissakes!).

If you think he's not savvy and capable of remembering every imagined slight he's ever suffered, you are seriously misunderestimating him.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:48 PM
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16. Wrong, Bush is stupid.
He lacks basic reasoning skills. He lacks the ability to articulate in writing or speaking. He has a poor memory for details. He avoids facts. He has no ability to see the entire field of discourse. He is willfully ignorant as well.

In short, Bush is a very stupid man. Being stupid however doesn't preclude him from being predatory and politically clever. Stupidity didn't stop guys like Mussolini, Stalin, and Hitler from getting power. They were ruthless and single-minded and didn't care who got hurt. They appealed to the lowest, basest parts of their public. Bush has that in common with them.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:55 PM
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21. I suppose it's a definitional thing.
In my mind that political cunning you describe is the opposite of stupid. He's been smart enough to become the most powerful man in the world, and to me, that ain't stupid.

I'm not going to argue about the lack of reasoning skills and the lack of ability to articulate or see the entire field of discourse, etc. My personal belief is that a great deal of that is an act. Hitler wrote one of the worst books ever written in Mein Kampf, but he wrote a book, and he did it by himself. He was of at least average intelligence. Stalin was by no means stupid, although Il Duce almost certainly was.

What they all had (and in the case of Bush, have) was single minded ruthlessness IN ADDITION to cunning and various other 'traits'. I won't call them qualities.

Bottom line is, Bush knows where the beans are fryin', as they say in this neck of the woods.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:22 PM
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31. Actually, Rudolf Hess wrote Mein Kampf
or rather he "ghosted" it from Hitler's talking points.

Anyway, Bush is the dumbest of the lot.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:11 PM
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26. here here, genuinely, literally, virtually, totally, bona fide, undeniably
stupid as shit. he's all the above, but above all, real damn stupid.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:49 PM
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17. If stupid is as stupid does,
He's stupid.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:58 PM
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22. What's he done that was stupid?
I mean, seriously. His goal has been to be president, to remain president and to inflict his twisted version of Amurka on the rest of the world. His other goals have included destroying the Democratic Party's effectiveness, enriching his corporate friends, and keeping a vast base of R/W electorate in the dark as to what his real objectives are.

He's accomplished all of his goals.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:08 PM
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He has had every advantage in the world bestowed upon him
and he's STILL fucked up everything he's ever touched.

In my book, I would say you would have to be pretty stupid to screw things up so badly when you've been practically given a set of conditions that would insure success to even the most simple minded person on the planet.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:51 PM
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19. Stupid is a relative term. When it comes to presidents he is very STUPID
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 04:51 PM by mtnsnake
In fact, when it comes to someone running ANYTHING, Bush is a fucking imbecile. Yes, he's corrupt and all those other things, you mentioned, but what makes him so dangerous is because he's so stupid on top of everything else you listed. If he weren't the son of an ex-president, he'd be lucky to be serving french fries in Micky D's.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:59 PM
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23. See my post above; what's he done that was stupid?
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:08 PM
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25. I agree with you ... Bush is a cunning and cruel man -
we should NOT ever underestimate his hunger for power. He resents intellectuals. Does this character remind you of someone else? Further he enjoys seeing people suffer. Hum? Who else was like that? Bush is a world class sociopathic personality in almost all defining criteria.

Bush is far from stupid, he's viscious, power hungry and, most important, he's dangerous on so many DAMN levels.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:05 PM
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24. yeah . . . he's stupid . . .
stupid:

1. a person who is not very bright; "The economy, stupid!"
2. lacking or marked by lack of intellectual acuity
3. without much intelligence; "a dull job with lazy and unintelligent co-workers"

if you define stupid as completely uninformed and incapable of logical thought, he's stupid . . . he's also crass, unsophisticated, brutal, unfeeling and elitist; willing to kill for little more than political advantage; corrupt; vicious and vindictive (and don't forget venal); unprincipled; and willing to say or do anything to 'win', whatever that means . . . but he's also very, very stupid . . .
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:14 PM
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27. He's stupid about real policy. He's stratefically ruthless about politics.
The press never mentions much that Bush was a longtime political strategist and hit the road with Atwater and Rove for YEARS. He's a dirty trick artist and everything that is WRONG about the political campaign system.

Yet, hardly anyone knows much about \his real persona.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:17 PM
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28. Mostly, he's lazy
he doesn't do homework. He's ill-informed and proud of it. He lacks an inquisitive mind. He doesn't know basic geography or history. Most middle-schoolers have a better background than he does. He didn't know Newfoundland was part of Canada. He thought people in Mexico speak Mexican. And this is the man representing our country to the rest of the world. Yet, his adherents find his laziness inspiring. I wonder if they also have such low expectations for their children.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:18 PM
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29. The a-hole is far from stupid
He's just mentally lazy and conniving. That's his appeal to America, who wants a guy who acts like a smarty pants for prez?
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:01 PM
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32. Definitely he is utterly stupid!!! check out the definition and tell me
what of the following doesn't apply?


DEF OF STUPID FROM DICTIONARY.COM

Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.

Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.

Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake.

Dazed, stunned, or stupefied.
Pointless; worthless: a stupid job.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stupid
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