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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:23 PM
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Evolution Debate Stirs Up Ga. Lawmakers
http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=5...

Two weeks after a federal judge ordered Cobb County to remove evolution disclaimers from science books, a state lawmaker has introduced a bill requiring that only "scientific fact" to be taught in public schools. To Republican State Rep. Ben Bridges of Cleveland, that rules out the theory of evolution.

A theory can be wrong. If it's wrong, or possibly could be wrong, don't teach it. Teach it with facts. If you've got facts to back it up, that's great, Bridges told 11Alive News Reporter Jon Shirek.

Bridges' said he did not consider other evolution controversies when introducing his bill, which he said is driven by his Christian beliefs.

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Weeple Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:24 PM
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1. Im so sick of this
Religion needs to be taken out of schools and the government period. Who do they think they are !?!?!?!?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:27 PM
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4. Same mentality as Condo board members and such
Tinpots and demagogues one and all.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:26 PM
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2. So many school boards make good laughingstocks
People unable to separate their own personal agendas from their duty to the public.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:26 PM
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3. bwahahahahahahahahahaha
A theory can be wrong. If it's wrong, or possibly could be wrong, don't teach it. Teach it with facts. If you've got facts to back it up, that's great.

This guy's a moron. That may be the saddest and funniest and most pathetic thing I've ever read.

I suppose he thinks gravity might not exist, either? Since it's "just a theory"?

Maybe it's true: the earth sucks.

What's hilarious is that ID and creationism and the rest are so far removed from "science fact" that he's essentially banning them, while evolution is considered a "fact" by all reputable scientists.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:35 PM
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8. Really....
What "fact" is it that god created the earth? And all the animals, etc? Just what can they teach then?
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RUDUing2 Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:27 PM
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5. they need to start by teaching lawmakers and students the
difference between what theory means scientifically and non-scientifically.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:31 PM
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7. That guy is what Chinese call "HOPELESS"
But then we should listen to him...Teach only facts.....

Evolution is a FACT

Creation is NOT

Guys like that make us laugh till tears...he is SO Funny
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:29 PM
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6. So apparently they're in favor of eliminating all science alltogether..
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 03:32 PM by Salviati
Damn morons who don't understand the scientific use of language.

Newtonian physics? It is wrong in that it doesn't work for large velocities or at the sub-atomic level, well chuck it out then. Quantum Mechanics? Doesn't include gravity. General Relativity, also doesn't work at the quantum level. I guess we'll just have to teach the kids string theory until we find out what's wrong with it... Oh wait, it's only a THEORY, well we can't have that.

I swear, I was brought up a Christian, but I just wish that the ignorant fools like this guy who claim to be Christians would just climb back into the primordial ooze that befits their intellectual capacity...
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chelsea32491 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:35 PM
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9. arg
in my school, when we talk about "evolution", all the religious right-wingers like to complain to our principle because we're talking about a "theory"...
but wait, isn't there the "theory of gravity?" its not like it applies some of the time. Evolution has been scientifically proven and these people are flipping out and trying to get it taken out! ARG!
i want to learn FACTS! not BELIEFS!
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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:44 PM
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10. How about this...
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 03:48 PM by twaddler01
LEAVE THE ISSUE ALONE!

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this issue SHOULD NOT be in any way controlled by our government (God knows enough is controlled by the government already).

Let them teach the evolution theory--leave the creation theory to church on Sunday's.

Relax, and take a deep breath. IT will be OKAY.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:39 PM
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17. But, the problem is that they aren't happy with that....
The fundie doomsday cultists (which do not include most rational Christians) will not be happy until their beliefs are legislated on the general population. I wish we could just leave it at this, teach science in the schools and leave the religion to the churches, but as long as they are willing to pick this fight, we must fight back.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:45 PM
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11. Social Darwinists cavort naked with christian apes.
Why are anti-evolutionists in league with social darwinists? The world spins in strange circles, better duck.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:45 PM
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12. Social Darwinists cavort naked with christian apes.
Why are anti-evolutionists in league with social darwinists? The world spins in strange circles, better duck.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:45 PM
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13. He does have a point

He and his ilk haven't evolved a whit in hundreds of years
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:47 PM
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14. Say good bye to gravity, time,
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 03:50 PM by MattBaggins
Shortest distance between two points is a what? Pythagorean who? That's it I demand the local school stop teaching geometry at once. There is way too much voodoo theoryizen in that thar mathymatiks.

That is if I hear about one shop teacher telling students to check for a 90 degree angle by measuring 3 foot, 4 foot and making sure the resulting line is 5 foot; there is gonna be hell to pay I tell you.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:09 PM
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15. The real agenda
Their real agenda is simple: keep the young stupid and intellectually UN-curious, they will grow into "fine" Rethugs and make good cannon fodder!
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:11 PM
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16. these people are so stupid it's hilarious!!!!
Theories are based on FACTS you moron!
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Been Fishing Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:48 PM
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18. This one is my favorite:
comes from PBS on the challenge to evolution...

1999: Columbine High School
(Evolution Challenged)
Columbine shooting spurs attack on evolution. The tragedy at Columbine High School leads to a general outcry that teenagers in America have lost their moral bearings. In Congress, conservative Republican Rep. Tom DeLay of Texas links this moral decline specifically to the teaching of evolution: "Our school systems teach the children that they are nothing but glorified apes who are evolutionized out of some primordial soup." DeLay's accusation, while outrageous to many, expresses a common fear anti-evolutionists have voiced for two centuries.
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