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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:15 AM
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Fienstien:"I'm for allowing young people to go outside SS if they want to"
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 09:45 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
she said "i'm for a flexible system"...........WTF????
C-Span right NOW Democrats holding hearings on SS "Republican Senators were invited but declined"
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:17 AM
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1. I'm over her
this and kissing Condescenda's ass last week.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:19 AM
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2. uh, they already can...
they're called IRAs.

selling out SS isn't acceptable.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:09 AM
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21. no shit. Theres 401k, theres Roth IRA, the Keogh thing
for self-employed people, some people get pensions.

Shame on her for going along with the repuke agenda of taking away freedoms we DO have and "giving" us freedoms we don't need or already have.

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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:17 AM
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24. So thay can stop paying SS taxes then, right?
and use that 6.25% of their income to pay into their 401K...
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:21 AM
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3. Not everyone pays into Social Security.
Some groups opted out. :shrug:
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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:22 AM
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4. Who else besides post office and some railway workers?
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:26 AM
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5. me.....and other states' employees
school employees in Louisiana do not contribute toward SS (just in the past few years is it mandatory)...we have our own pension/retirement division and elect officers/overseers to manage it. My understanding is that many states' employees do not contribute to SS.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:28 AM
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6. Colorado's teachers don't either. n/t
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:34 AM
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7. However,
Any teachers who have paid into both systems....SS and state retirement systems, CANNOT double dip, they can't collect from both systems...thanks, repukes
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:36 AM
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8. professional firefighters also pay into both but cannot collect both
it is either or
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:06 AM
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16. If public employees pay into both,
why can't they collect both? Or, why can't they even be reimbursed from one for just the amount they contributed? Or, why are they mandated to have to pay into both?
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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:07 AM
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18. Didn't know that about LA....thanks!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:40 AM
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10. Lots of (aging) federal employees...........
are still in the CSRS system...
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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:06 AM
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15. Cool did not know that
I know military did not use to...still wish we didn't.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:37 AM
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9. As long as her husband has those defense contractors, she's
useless to the Democrats.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:48 AM
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11. She's getiing worse by the day- Another Zelda Miller
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:55 AM
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12. This makes me wonder about the extent to which
the dems are selling out the New Deal in exchange for future supreme court nominees. If this is so it's pretty spineless.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:01 AM
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14. not all dems...just the DLC ones..if i wanted repub values i'de vote for
a real republican instead of the likes of Lieberman, hillary, schummer and fienstien
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:59 AM
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13. it's nice to see that the Dems are at least willing to hear from both....
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 10:08 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
sides on the issue ........the Cato guy Tanner is a bush shill.

the Brookings guy said "those born today will recieve $8,000 less by the time they retire at these current numbers" and "do no harm, just shore up SS by getting rid of deficit"
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:06 AM
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17. Senator Feinstein is entitled to vote according to her opinion
So are her constituents, when she next comes up for re-election.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:07 AM
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19. She is in the wrong party. -eom
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TO Kid Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:08 AM
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20. If Congresscritters really thought SS was sound
Then they'd pay into it themselves. Beware any law that politicians support while they are exempt.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:15 AM
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22. bullshit!...sniff sniff
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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:16 AM
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23. They do pay into SS
have since 1984.
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