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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:53 AM
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It's a sad day in America,
when we go into an unnecessary war under false pretenses, How can WE the people allow this to be? What ever happened to Diplomacy? Are we doomed? So many questions, so little time.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:57 AM
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1. we've been doing this for over a century now
today is not much sadder than any other of the last 36,500 days.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:01 AM
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2. true, America invades, absorbs and conquers at will
manifest destiny, the march of the white man, the gospel of love must be spread with bombs, we worship a man of peace, and we slaughter thousands in our wake. it's always been this way, I just thought we might grow out of it, but I've given up my fairy tales.
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:36 AM
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4. you are so right...
We to plow thru a civil war, then World I, then that silly World World II and then Korea and then Vietnam. Imagine what a better world this would be if just coouch-potato'd it.
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count_alucard Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:19 AM
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3. unnecessary?
America has been committing genocide around the globe for at least 60 years now, why are you all of a sudden outraged?

We have a giggling killer as President (thanks Mike Malloy) and an impostor who has just ran a fake campaign against him, an impostor who actually voted for this Iraqi mass killing (yet another American crime against humanity), WE the people will for sure allow this to be, and there's much more to come, save your outrage.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:49 AM
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5. Genocide is a pretty strong charge, I'm not sure I see it.
What specifically are you talking about?

If it's the indians than you are in the wrong century.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:59 AM
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10. Maybe you forgot the millions of dead Vietnamese.
Operation Arclight ran for many years,flattening many cities in North Vietnam.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:56 AM
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6. It matters not what we did in the past, it matters most what we do
with today and tomorrow. Learn from your past but don't dwell in it.
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count_alucard Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:26 PM
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15. don't dwell in it???
that's just about the cruelest, most cynical thing I've read on this board lately. I bet you'll say next year 'don't dwell' on the thousands of innocent Iraqi butchered by Americans in 2003, 2004 and 2005.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:38 PM
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17. You would loose that bet.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:33 PM
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16. count welcome to du
and I'm not suddenly outraged. I've been outraged a long time.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:05 AM
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7. Diplomacy? that's now Condi's job.
According to Bush, we can't be a wastin' time talkin'... He has to do the 'hard work' and make 'tough decisions'. You can't be the 'arsenal of democracy' by just talkin' ya gotta act.

Where have you been the last 4 years?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:50 AM
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:02 AM
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11. Wrong! Guess again!
People in Iraq VOTED under Saddam, it was a sham. Now they have ANOTHER SHAM under the US occupation.
Even if they get to the stations alive, they don't even know WHO IS RUNNING! Even if they vote for someone (even though they don't know who they're voting for), I guarantee you Bush and his cronies are making this completely fraudulent.
Even if nothing goes amiss (dream on) and the candidates take their positions of power, how is ANYTHING GOING TO CHANGE?!?!? Chaos, unemployment and everything else will continue and there will be NOTHING the newly "elected" (selected by the US) body can do about it. The US will continue to occupy and oppress Iraq and its people. Until the US leaves and Iraqis take control of their country, nothing will change.

Nice try.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:02 AM
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12. "i know i pathetic"
And the news is spreading. :D
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:02 AM
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13. Too bad we don't have free open elections here
Maybe we shoudl get the election process straightened out here before we throw our unreliable easily mainpulated elections at other countries.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:25 AM
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14. Wrong
There were free multi-party elections in 1954.

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