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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:48 PM
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Anybody Else Wondering If Blacks Will Show Up For Dems Anymore ???
With only Boxer in the Senate, standing with the Black Caucus in the House, after thousands and thousands of Blacks and others stood for hours and hours for Kerry and the Dems on election night...

Will they even bother next time around? If you were them, would you???

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:50 PM
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1. Well, they won't show up for the Repugs.
Remember that they will most likely still go along with the more influential black political leaders like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc. and so on.

The work that Conyers, et al. are doing will be remembered.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:51 PM
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2. American citizens may vote for whom they wish --
-- but good luck in the party of Helms, Nixon, Dubya, Santorum, the Cat Butcher, and Caspar Weinberger.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:51 PM
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3. No I don't
In fact, I've never seen AA's stronger for Democrats in my life. Yes they will bother because they've been bothering for 400 years. This is something a white person cannot understand. I would bother.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:58 PM
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7. I Hope You're Correct, But...
Schumer's remarks last week were stupidly insensitive!

<snip>

"My view is that you don't hold up the election unless there is concrete real evidence of fraud. I haven't seen that," Schumer said Thursday.

And...

After the debate, the Senate voted 74-1 to uphold the election results, with Boxer the lone dissent. The House followed suit, 267-31.

"Chuck certainly thinks that the problems our nation has in voting are worth two hours of the Senate's attention, but he doesn't believe we should stop the certification of the election for that purpose, and every senator except Senator Boxer agreed with him," said Schumer spokesman Stu Loeser.

<snip>

Link: http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-bc-ny--schum...

I sure am glad that the Congress could be bothered for two hours over this. I mean, let's forget about the hundreds of years of slavery, a Civil War, a racist South, and a racists country Blacks and other minorities have been "bothered" by in our nation's history. And it's present... apparently.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:18 PM
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15. Schumer is an idiot...He is my Senator, but not due to my vote
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:26 PM
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18. That's something that us pale-face folk might keep in mind
Black people didn't quit just because the struggle lasted a long time - and is still ongoing. Just because my candidate and party got their election stolen a second time, that doesn't mean I should give up.

Martin Luther King Jr. didn't quit when he got thrown in jail. I'm not going to quit either.

Thanks for that reminder.

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jazzwinders Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:54 PM
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4. I'm black and I will show up.
I have not spoken to a black person yet that is willing to give up. I'm in this fight for the long haul.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:17 PM
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14. I'm not black, but I want to add that I will show up and
am thrilled that you will show up...and I am willing to join you in your fight for the long haul. I have your back, as I'm sure you have mine as with regard to women's civil rights.

God help us all against the BFEE, but we've got to help ourselves and each other!

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jazzwinders Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:25 PM
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17. Yep, I have your back.
After November 2nd, I felt like giving up. After Kerry's concession, I was through with the party. Damn it! I can't give up!!!
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:56 PM
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5. Just watched Bullworth in my Soc class
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 08:57 PM by progressiveBadger
I think everyone will continue to fight the good fight though. If not that, then what?
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:56 PM
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6. Well, I can not speak for black people,
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 08:56 PM by Pam-Moby
but I feel this was against all democrats no matter what color they are. There was white congressman that signed on to the contested Ohio
electoral votes as well. I will support Congressman Conyers and Jesse Jackson not because of color, but because of their convictions.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:08 PM
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10. I'm not black. But I am an independent and a minority.
And I really wish white Dems would find their soul, and if not their soul, then just grow some balls.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:02 PM
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8. I am black...
and I do not know a black that would entertain the idea of voting rethug at this point.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:13 PM
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11. I'm Not Black, And I'm Not Talking About Blacks Leaving The Dems...
for the Republicans.

I'm talking about Blacks just saying "The Hell With It!" and sitting it out, or even going 3rd party.

The Republicans have demonstrated that they don't need the Black vote, they just need to suppress it.

And as a white guy, and a life-long Democrat, I am supremely pissed at my party right now.

But thank you for your vote, and your willingness to stick with it. I'm just hoping our party can get its head out of its ass long enough to do the correct thing before the 2006 and 2008 elections.

Standing in unison against the Ohio delegation would have been a great start. But all we had was one. And thank goodness she's MY Senator!

:shrug:
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:07 PM
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9. Kerry was too timid to even say anything about voter suppression.
He should have been foaming at the mouth about it. How he could let the Repukes do this two elections in a row.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:28 PM
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21. If Kerry is too timid then he's not our leader but we still go forward
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 09:29 PM by yardwork
That's how I feel. If it's not Kerry then it will be somebody else, but eventually a leader will emerge if we keep faith and continue the struggle.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:15 PM
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12. I am wondering is I will be showing up anymore.
Let alone whole demographic groups. I can't even put together a good argument for supporting the party in it's current form. maybe if Dean takes over it will get better but I am not even sure that will help us after all the damage the DLCers have done.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:15 PM
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13. yes i would
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:22 PM
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16. I'll show up no matter what others say or what "color" they are.
This is about America and humanity in general. For me, this transcends socio-cultural constructs.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:27 PM
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19. I have thought about this a lot
But in regards to the process of voting.

I don't think I would be standing in rain or in the heat to have my vote not counted next time.

Of course I would be so pissed off that I wouldn't want anyone to STOP me from voting, but maybe after a lifetime of such little murders to your soul-you give up and find something else to do-someplace your friends are really your friends.

GET IT FIXED.

Someone explain to me why oh why the Democratic leadership wants to spend the time and effort and appeasment of going after those that don't want to vote Dem instead of damn sure making anyone that does, can and it will be counted.

We are not the miniority party if we include the miniorites.

Hell I'm angry and will remain angry and I'm white and live with the easiest voting in the country. Part of that clearly unfair and unequal access to voting is why I'm shamed. Anyone that can vote easily should be shamed if they knew the challenges and dirty, mean tricks that are employed to actively get Blacks NOT to vote.
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jazzwinders Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:36 PM
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22. And a black man in Ohio at that.
Maybe Mr. Blackwell's ancestors didn't have the the same challenges as my black ancestors. Maybe Mr. Blackwell forgot all our people had to endure just for the right to vote. I will not let anyone discourage me enough to sit on the sidelines. I refuse to be a bystander. I will honor the fight of those that came before me and I will continue to vote.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:09 PM
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24. Ya Know Generator... You May Have Put The Question Perfectly !!!
How long will Blacks, or anybody for that matter, wait in line to vote next time???

Many will stand there as long as it takes, but I fear that many others, if it starts taking hours, will just give up and take off.

:shrug:
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:27 PM
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20. I would bother and they will vote against Jeb or Frist or any other repuke
.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:36 PM
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23. Speaking only for myself
If the party nominates another unacceptable candidate - for whatever reason - I will write in someone I actually respect.
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