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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:31 PM
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Rush-"Let's get it all out on the table 'neo-con' means 'Republican Jew'"
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 01:33 PM by underpants
While I was out running errands I heard this little piece of bullshit.

~"I have refrained from making this point until now but those who use that term ...those who use it in a prejorative sense mean 'Jew' not a 'liberal Jew' or a 'Democratic Jew' but they mean 'Republican Jew'.....PEople like Wolofowitz, Kristol,......Pearle.....well let's leave it at there"

ON EDIT-yes he did say "prejorative"

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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:32 PM
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1. Yeah, George Bush is a republican jew... Got it!
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No Mandate Here. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:04 PM
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32. No, He is HANDLED by them... EOM
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:33 PM
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2. Whhhaaa??
No, Rush, that's not what I mean at all when I use the phrase, but thanks for playing. Here's your parting gift.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:33 PM
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3. Yeah man! It's Jews like Cheney...er...
nevermind.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:38 PM
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52. Or Poppy Bush

Rush needs to be taken off of the air right now!
How dare he say something like that ,what a bigot!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:34 PM
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4. Wow... someone's gone WAAAAAY off the deep end...
:crazy:
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:40 PM
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19. Nope, now he can call people who dont support war anti semites.
If you oppose neo-cons you oppose jewish republicans under this definition.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:01 PM
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64. No this is the way Rush operates
Have you ever noticed he rarely attacks certain news items until long after they are out in the public?

Here is part of the reason:

1) Ignore item wait for it to go away while...

2) Think tanks put together a plan of attack

3) Put on air "The Rush Propaganda Show"

His ideas are so old he passes coprolite.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:34 PM
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5. Or "Fundamentalist Christian Republican"
who loves the Jews insofar as they are required to rebuild the temple before Jesus will come back. In other words, they need Israel and the Jews to bring about their much-anticipated apocalypse.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:37 PM
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14. they don't have to change the world
I'd be happy to get together with a few other like minded people and provide a personal apocalypse for them, er, tomorrow? Is that soon enough?

sheesh.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:33 PM
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51. Bingo. We're opposed to the "Judeo-Christian" western tradition
In other words, being opposed to the war in Iraq makes us traitors to our country, traitors to our culture, and traitors to God, in the newspeak of the right.

If we protest that we aren't against those things at all, then we are "filled with hate" and "messengers of Satan."
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BBradley Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:34 PM
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6. He stole that from some other idiot...
Anybody have a link to the original comment?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:35 PM
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9. See I KNEW that wasn't an original
I thought for a minute there someone let him read that talking point first. No they aren't that stupid.
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:36 PM
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12. Ask and ye shall receive
Take your pick. Maybe he stole it from AAR???

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=neocon+%22republic...
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:26 PM
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45. I found this posted on the AA blog ( Dow Jones)
So lets go over the rules: Just because we call ourselves neocons, it doesnt mean you can. Of course, if youre right-leaning and dont intend the word disparagingly, you get a pass. Just know that unless youre aware that neoconservative also includes last names like Bennett, Kirkpatrick, Sowell, Kemp and Ashcroft, when you refer to someone as a neocon, youre saying Jew. We might suggest reverting to previous, less codey expressions such as Jewish conservative or Republican Jew"--especially since not every right-leaning Jew is neo. But not to worry: We neocons, Republican Jews, Jewish conservatives and Jews for Bush wont take offense, since we dont want American Christians to feel even more paranoid than they already do (particularly during holiday season).

As for our imperviously left-leaning fellow tribesmen, let them figure out for themselves how to handle their non-Jewish co-ideologists who say neocon angrily and freely in mixed company.

Ms. Gorin, a contributing editor of JewishWorldReview.com, performs with RightStuffComedy.com.

Copyright 2004 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:28 PM
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47. P.S. according to her - liberals are not allowed to use the term "neocon"
:eyes:
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:03 PM
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66. I must be really losing it
because that was actually pretty funny, in a snarky kinda way. Too bad about her going to all that trouble to explain the religious connotation and distinctions, and then making the broad-brush swipe at American Christians, tho. :evilgrin:
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:39 PM
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18. no...
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 01:44 PM by imax2268
he stole that from Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism_ (United_States)

for some reason I can't get the link to post properly...just make sure to add the underscore and the (United_States) in the address line...
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:42 PM
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20. David Brooks was one source for this
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 01:42 PM by jpgray
But I think dimwitted Dave got his marching orders from Muravchik's Commentary piece.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:45 PM
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23. David Frum
http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/diary122002.asp

Max Boot

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id...

John Podheretz, Bill Kristol...

All around the same time. It's an orchestrated meme.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:01 PM
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30. Thanks-NOTE Chertoff is Jewish so expect it to snowball
as his confirmation nears. Yes they are playing the race card and they have been getting ready for it for some time-that is why Gonzales was brought along with W and Condi is such their sweetheart.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:47 PM
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56. Hitler would be so proud of junior!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:53 PM
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24. David Brooks wrote a column on it for the NYT
n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:34 PM
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7. Wow! Rush is so smart. Now we can't talk about them anymore.
NOT! :D

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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:35 PM
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8. wow, he can't even get that shit right....
....Buchanan loves pointing out that Wolfowitz and Pearle are supposedly registered Democrats. Rush is a piece of shit. Right-wingnuts always are the FIRST to play the "race card", as if...oh hell. Just ask yourself why it's always an Armstrong or Powell or Rice or Gonzales out there being the apologists for the exposed lies.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:37 PM
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15. Right supposedly neo-cons are socially liberal
Funny you don't hear them speaking about social issues very much.

The Powell Rice thing is dead on too.

Oh I almost forgot Monsour Ijaz is a Dem too he gave money to Clinton's campaign....see?
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:35 PM
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10. Wolofowitz is a Jewish name?
Coulda fooled me! Sounds German....
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:36 PM
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11. No, it means a fat, lying, pillpopping bigtime AH!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:38 PM
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53. Could you leave the 'fat' out of it, please?
"Lying, pillpopping bigtime AH" can stand alone.

Those of us who are fat don't mind the word, but we do mind it being used as a insult.

Thanks. :)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:50 PM
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57. Fat could = super wealthy?
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #53
61. I am sorry, I did not mean to offend.My apologies.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:04 PM
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67. Thanks....all smiles here.
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 03:04 PM by mcscajun
:)

It's my new year crusade.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:37 PM
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13. no, it means fascist
of which Rush is one.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:38 PM
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16. Yes, James Woolsey's Jewish heritage is so well-known
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 01:38 PM by jpgray
He's a neocon. As is Jeane Kirkpatrick. Must be a Jew, right?

:crazy:

(Note Rummy and Cheney aren't properly speaking neoconservatives.)
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:38 PM
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17. Poor Rush
he just lost his anti-Semitic audience. And I bet that's a large slice. Must be the drugs.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:42 PM
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21. banana republicans just LOVE to play the victim
"waaaah, look, i'm being discriminated against!
i'm subject to anti-whiteism!
i'm subject to anti-christianism!
i'm subject to anti-americanism!
i'm subject to anti-wealthism!
my jew friends are subject to anti-jewism!
my token n-friends are subject to anti-n-ism!"

these people are bigots through and through and they cloak themselves in the language of anti-bigotry to further their selfish and bigotted ends.

as much as they pretend like liberals play the victim, no one can hold a candle to the banana republicans and their wailing. virtually ANYTHING the democrats say is an attack against them personally or against some class. they can't even accept that we might be talking about an issue.

they are a disgusting lot, and rush leads the pack.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:42 PM
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22. "I have refrained from making this point until now..."
As usual for Rush, that's bullshit. He's been peddling that codswallop for years.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:54 PM
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25. I know I've heard him say that before
He even lies about telling lies.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:06 PM
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33. Thanks!
I just added "codswallop" to my vocabulary...!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:54 PM
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26. "Neo-con" means "Fuck-up Trying to Avoid Blame."
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:55 PM
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27. they're ratcheting up the Democrats=racists card aren't they
with Gonzales and this. Such an ugly canard and very hard to fight. Each successful lie has an element of truth...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:59 PM
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28. Yes they are-Franken's ditto head friend did this yesterday
Franken didn't have a very good response either.

BTW- Chertoff is Jewish I believe so watch for this to snowball as his conformation nears.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:00 PM
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29. actually i think that is mostly accurate
al franken uses it in that way too
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:08 PM
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34. No it isnt, and no he doesnt.
It is a blatent lie.

There are plenty of conservative jews who arent neocons, thus completely disproving Limbaugh.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:13 PM
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38. i mean i heard him once say, conservative christians and jewish neocons
granted rush takes things out of context...but thats what i meant by that

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:02 PM
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31. He gets nuttier by the day
:eyes:

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:09 PM
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35. Rush Limbaugh? Is he still around? Why isn't he in jail yet?
What ever happened to the investigation into Rush's drug abuse and crimes?

Have his assets been seized yet?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:11 PM
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36. Ok, let's get a contest going between Rush Limbaugh and Pat Buchanan
and see which one cares more about America and democracy.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:12 PM
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37. How much did Bush pay you for that one, Rush?
Just the usual rate?
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #37
55. Plus a "Get Out of Jail Free" card n/t
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 02:44 PM by Ms. Clio
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:14 PM
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39. Come on Rush, let's put it ALL out on the table....
What does "Republican Jew" imply? Radical Zionism? And what does that imply, world dominion? Sounds like some sort of Dominionism to me, but he would never talk about that! At that point you might as well drag in a lot of Catholics, Templars, Freemasons.....
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:18 PM
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41. world dominion?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:18 PM
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40. And Hitler was a socialist.
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jdonaldball Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:20 PM
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42. Ironic, considering that in Hitler's time, most of the
the Americans who sympathised with Hitler or wanted to stay out of the war, were Republicans. And FDR and the majority of the portion of Americans who supported joining the alliance against Hitler, were Democrats.
There was a pro-Nazi, German-American Bund in America, even after we went to war against Germany, and the majority of them were Republicans, and virtually none were Democrats. In those times, the majority of American Jews supported FDR, for good reasons. Herbert Hoover was a Nazi sympathiser, and he advocated coming to an understanding with the Nazis in 1938, when he was a former President but still one with a lot of persuasive clout in antisemetic and isolationist circles.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:28 PM
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48. "America First"-isolationists of that era
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 02:29 PM by underpants
Joe Conason wrote about them in "Big Lies" it was the first that I had heard of them. I have tried to google it and research it but there is very little written about them.

Yes, they protested US involvement in WWII before and , to a lesser extent, after Pearl Harbor-they stuck to their beliefs regardless of the facts. Conason wrote that it turned out to be a front for Japanese and German agents in the US (though that was not necessarily known by all the America Firsters-useful idiots) and one of the agents was allowed to use a Republican Congressman's office to do some of his work.

Pat Buchanan used that term in his runs for president-that is what swallows up most of the links on google.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:21 PM
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43. Condi Rice?
Maybe she is Falasha.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:22 PM
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44. When I hear "neo-con" I generally think of right-wing Christians
Not trying to Christian bash at all - I know there are many many Christians who aren't neo-cons. But at least the vast majority of neo-cons are conservative fundamentalist Christians.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:41 PM
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54. It depends on how you define neocon.
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 02:42 PM by K-W
It can refer to the original philosophical movement, in which case it is a small mostly Jewish group of idiot-intellectuals.

It can also refer to the wider movement in washington now, in which case its that group, plus others, many non-jews, not particularly religious though.

Or it can refer to all people who have signed onto the neocon inspired Bush foriegn policy, in which case a significant portion are fundie christians.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:51 PM
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58. Thanks for the insight
I guess I think of the third on your list.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:56 PM
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62. That is a good recap of this
Neocon 101
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/neocon101.html

So they started mostly from Jewish "liberals" but they aren't anymore.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:14 PM
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68. I think of the neo-cons
as being about half Jewish - based on the signers-on for some of their statements.

I'm sure the Republicans would like to paint to Democrats as anti-Jewish to get some more votes and sway people to their side....



Most self-described Jews voted for Democrats - from the exit polls - 78% Kerry. (And I believe the exit polls).
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flobee1kenobi Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:27 PM
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46. ladies and gents...
We have their next talking point
Democrat=racist
anyone who attacks Blackwell, Gonzo, Wolfie, Kristol ect
are racists

Nevermind the fact that these people are scumbags, if their judgement is questioned, it MUST be because of their race :eyes:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:30 PM
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49. Chertoff
third time I have posted this---Do you think it is a coincidence he makes this point the day that Chertoff (who is jewish) gets nominated for Homeland Security?
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:23 PM
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69. Actually, it would be racist to NOT attack them
Nobody is attacking their race. Dems believe that people of all backgrounds are capable of great achievement. The flip side of this is that all peoples are capable of great mischief.

As a feminist, I always hate it when someone dismisses a conservative woman by saying, "she's really a man." No, she's just a really bad woman. (thinking Thatcher during the 1980s)
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:32 PM
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50. I'm sure that Limbaugh makes them proud. Strange bedfellows, indeed.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:51 PM
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59. Rush Limpballs....fuck you and your kind.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:54 PM
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60. Condoleeza Ricestein?
Scott McClellanberg? John Ashcroftowitz?

What the hell is wrong with these people?
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:58 PM
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63. "Neocon" is political and economic, not religious
According to Merriam-Webster, the word neoconservative simply means: A former liberal espousing political conservatism.

This is confirmed by Irving Kristol himself:

Even I, frequently referred to as the "godfather" of all those neocons, have had my moments of wonderment. A few years ago I said (and, alas, wrote) that neoconservatism had had its own distinctive qualities in its early years, but by now had been absorbed into the mainstream of American conservatism. I was wrong, and the reason I was wrong is that, ever since its origin among disillusioned liberal intellectuals in the 1970s, what we call neoconservatism has been one of those intellectual undercurrents that surface only intermittently.

(snip)

"...one can say that the historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be this: to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism in general, against
their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/0...

This attempt to link "neocon" with "Jew" with "anti-Semitism" is a perfect example of how they violate and manipulate language and exclude debate. Make "neocon" the next "N-word" even as the neocons go on about their bloody business.

Very disturbing.
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:02 PM
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65. Republican Jew?
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 03:08 PM by WMliberal
I love his little "let's leave it at there" because if you go any further, his point crumbles under it's own stupidity and. Any closer examination just obliterates it. You gotta love his "debates" with himself.

BTW, I can't get the kool-aid recipe straight. Are the Jews controlling everything or are us DU-types controlling the Jews? :shrug:
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:18 PM
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70. What a dope
Neo-Con = The new conservatives. The old ones were bad enough, but now they're Fascists.

When are they going to send HIM up and throw away the key?

And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up. --Rush Limbaugh TV show (10/5/95)
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:21 PM
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71. Let's get it all out on the table 'Rush' means Asswipe
or more specifically, Pill-Popping, closeted, Pig-boy asswipe.

RL
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