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bobweaver Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:43 PM
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So, when WILL low-income republican voters finally wise up and realize...
...that they are being stabbed in the back by the very people they are voting for? How long will the con on them last before they wake up? The people working for paychecks and shopping at Wal-mart, who are "Proud to be an american where at least I know I'm free" and think that Fox news is "fair and balanced" and that spinach salad is an "exotic" dish. The people that have to work 2 jobs just to afford rent, and yet vote for Republicans. When will they wake up and realize what is being done to them, and what will make them wake up?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:44 PM
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1. I've been wondering that all my life
So far, the Republicans are winning the war for their hearts and minds. They've done this by controlling the media.

The whole thing proves how easy it is to manipulate millions of people if you control the media.
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Rican1 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:45 PM
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2. Never
As long as Right-Wing Radio/TV is able to blame their problems on liberals, minorities, and gays
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:46 PM
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3. AFTER they lose their jobs, their health insurance, their pension, their
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 06:46 PM by BrklynLiberal
social security, their house is repossessed by the bank, and then, when their child is sent to fight in Iraq....maybe they will start to get the idea.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:19 PM
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15. No, they'd blame the "Democraps"..............
Rush would tell them why it's the Democrats' fault and they'd buy every word of it. We'll never reach them. They're mostly uneducated, very religious and seem to love being told what to do. Creative thinking is not their strong suit.
I hate generalizing like this, but it's pretty much accepted fact. Bush appeals to voters without much education and who go to church regularly (although Bush doesn't). The Republicans desperately want to perpetuate this situation, hence their loathing of education. Unless you're rich. Then you can go to College and help control the poor later in life as a Republican. It's a great system they have. :eyes:
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:46 PM
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4. SOON.
If DUers can make congress sit up and listen, I'm sure we can formulate a media echo chamber to rival the RW controlled MSM.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:46 PM
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5. Who knows
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 06:47 PM by GRLMGC
I know someone who lives in a low income apartment where the rent is cheaper and I always see this S.U.V. w/ a Bush/Cheney sticker on it. I wonder, are they playing the system or are they really poor? Either way, I find it quite amusing because they are either scam artists or are setting themselves up to be crushed.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:49 PM
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6. "There are none so blind ..."
They're not asleep, it's a coma.

Pull the plug on thinking these folks are interested in anything beyond what is on the Tee Vee.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:49 PM
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7. Never, as best I can tell.
After all, we need to ave all those unborn babies. Ignoring the fact that their own babies have no health insurance, so who is going to save them?
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:53 PM
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8. After the next bin Laden hit
they will not feel as safe as they thought they were.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:03 PM
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10. And then they'll believe *'s spin. Hook, line, and sinker.
:scared:
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:09 PM
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12. I do not think so
IMHO, bin Laden will hit in a known weakness like the ports or air cargo. And when that is pointed out, * will be lower in the polls than he is now around 48%
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:33 PM
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23. I think it would have the opposite effect...
People already in thrall to the "Bush makes us Safer" brigade, will throw what's left of their freedoms into the waiting arms of the administration and insist (violently) that we do the same. Martial law will be declared "for the duration" which will be for as long as the Republican Reich is in power.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:41 PM
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24. What percentage did Bush really "win" by....
there is and article on LBN about people standing by their choice. You may be right if Bush won by 52% but I think he lost by 49%

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:02 PM
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9. They still think they got tax cuts
Even though the revenue shortfall cut block grants to their states and made all their state and local taxes go up, especially the regressive ones.

They still think they got a tax cut from Reagan, who set high rates on labor into stone while hiking FICA six times and putting their overpayments into the general fund.

They still think they're middle class, even though they fall farther behind every year and are now charging up those credit cards for food and clothing.

I don't think anything will get through to those poor dopes until it all comes crashing down around their ears.

The sad part is that it will, and it will take the rest of us along with them.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:06 PM
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11. long as they think the Republicans are "keepin the n------ down"...
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:26 PM
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19. There's a lot of truth to that..................
they feel so rotten about their own lives they need someone to look down on and feel superior to. Thing is, those that they look down on have one thing they'll never have. Integrity and pride. It doesn't pay much, but it sure makes you feel good about yourself.
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:51 PM
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25. Thats somewhat old thinking
The racial aspect is going away fast. I know more Pukes that love the Florida Cubans and other ethnics that are leaking to the GOP. Even Mexicans. And fundie preachers are making alliances with Jewish leaders. Theyre needed to keep power. Interracial marriage is making it more and more moot, also.

The new faultline is more around gender than race. Look at the last election, and what was the hot button ballot issue??? Beating up GLBT people has replaced "dark---s" their fantasies.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:12 PM
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13. It's not about the money to these people.
They believe it is a battle for the soul of 'Murica, good vs. evil, Pat Buchanan, circa 1992 stuff.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:14 PM
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14. When the New Deal is dead
When the safety nets have been removed, look for many more bodies in the streets.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:23 PM
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16. I don't think they will
They have to believe in something and they keep being told that the American dream is within their grasp. What they don't realize is those from a lowly start who have "made good" got their leg up in the past from the very things that the Republicans would like to remove.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:25 PM
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17. They LIKE feeling bad for themselves. They are proud of their persecution
complex.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:26 PM
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18. never - they are like lotto players...they keep thinking "one day...
I too will be at the country club with Muffy and Buffy"...

and then they go back to their daily grind...
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:29 PM
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21. Bingo! Never is the correct answer
But what about the lower middle class clucks too? Whats their excuse?
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:26 PM
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20. The repubs
that I have talked to don't even watch the news. Now mind you these are the people in Ohio that elected shrub. I am surrounded by them here. One said..Kerry's gonna raise taxes so I'm voting for Bush (this person makes under 35K per year) Then the others think and I emphasize think they are in the upper 3%. They are some strong minded people who will never wake up.

I figure it'll take something really drastic to happen and somehow they'll blame it on Clinton.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:30 PM
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22. As long as their preachers tell them to vote rethug. Then the preachers
get in their faith based Escalades.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:52 PM
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26. never
voting is an emotional act, not a rational act, for most people
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:07 PM
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27. As long as their lives are not greatly disturbed probably never.
Massive cuts in programs and great financial suffering might move some people. Apparently they can rationalize torture and an unjust war so more killing and torture isn't going to move them. Some kind of mass psychosis has them in their grip and until there is some great awakening I am not holding my breath for any huge changes.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:31 PM
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32. it took the Great Depression for Murkans to wise up
previously.
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:12 PM
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28. when the free medical care they receive
is no longer there. That is when they will awaken!

:kick:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:00 PM
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30. when they are living in their cars. No sooner, no later.
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TheEconomist Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:01 PM
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31. The low income repubs I know...
... vote the way they do not for fiscal reasons, but for moral and religious reasons. They may not think repubs are going to give them money, but they do think they are going to push their religious agenda.
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