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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:14 PM
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Did anyone else hear that Randi caller yesterday about torture.
Who said that beheading was torture, not that stuff we did with electrodes, sleep deprivation, feces, and butt pyramids.

And that guy claimed to be a DEM??????


:wtf:
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:17 PM
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1. macho, macho man!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:17 PM
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2. Gotta have organ failure or death under the "new" definition
as per Alberto Gonzales....
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:17 PM
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3. Yes I heard him
but I had to turn it off as it evolved into a shouting match, I love randi but I can't stand people screaming at each other, I hope she does'nt get into that habit, it is why oreilly and hannity are so disgusting......
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:19 PM
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4. She was trying to get his attention
I'd almost rather she just potted them down, that way she wouldn't have to shout. Just shows what morans freepers are...
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ms.smiler Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:24 PM
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5. Yes, I heard the call. It's easy to determine exactly what is torture,
when you imagine one our own in the same position. If it were a US citizen connected to electrodes, or deprived of sleep, or covered with feces and piled naked into a pyramid - could not anyone then recognize it as torture? Well, it's torture too when it happens to Iraqi citizens.
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:24 PM
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6. well even under new definitions------
If its organ failure or death ya want--there have been over 100 suspected deaths as a result of this-- yes-- TORTURE.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:33 PM
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7. So, if they stick an ice pick through a prisoner's eye and into
his brain to give him a make-shift lobotomy, I guess that doesn't count? Afterall, he would have one eye left, and if his brain still functions (at least for basic autonomic functions), I guess that isn't torture? These are sick bastards.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:48 PM
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8. Randi was also...
Randi was also talking about little boys being raped by soldiers. I hadn't heard about that...is that true?
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:51 PM
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9. Apparently so, Sy Hersh mentioned it last summer when he was
expecting the rest of the story to come out. Not sure about the ages of the boys but I had the impression they were young teen or pre-teen. Hersh talked about witnesses who described the screaming they heard when this was going on.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:53 PM
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10. sigh... :(
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:55 PM
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11. yes -- check her website -- she has
the article by Sy Hersh (spelling ?) who describes the video and he heard the child's screams.

Also there should be a link to a lecture by the same reporter. Yes this reporter is very reliable. One of the few investigative journalists still working.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:59 PM
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12. Ahh, say no more...
I just found this:

"That's right. Perle equated Hersh with Osama bin Laden and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed. "Sy Hersh is the closest thing American journalism has to a terrorist," Perle told Wolf Blitzer."

It seems that the neocon scumbag Richard Perle equated Sy Hersh with a terrorist...That validates him in my eyes :)
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:23 PM
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15. Yes welcome
Sy Hersh is a true American hero.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:01 PM
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13. Welcome to DU. Truth is spoken here.
Let us hope it sets us free.

Class of 56
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:03 PM
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14. Danke...n/t
:toast:
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