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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:04 AM
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The president's real goal in Iraq-A MUST READ
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 10:25 AM by clem_c_rock
http://207.44.245.159/article2319.htm

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The official story on Iraq has never made sense. The connection that the Bush administration has tried to draw between Iraq and al-Qaida has always seemed contrived and artificial. In fact, it was hard to believe that smart people in the Bush administration would start a major war based on such flimsy evidence.

The pieces just didn't fit. Something else had to be going on; something was missing.

In recent days, those missing pieces have finally begun to fall into place. As it turns out, this is not really about Iraq. It is not about weapons of mass destruction, or terrorism, or Saddam, or U.N. resolutions.

This war, should it come, is intended to mark the official emergence of the United States as a full-fledged global empire, seizing sole responsibility and authority as planetary policeman. It would be the culmination of a plan 10 years or more in the making, carried out by those who believe the United States must seize the opportunity for global domination, even if it means becoming the "American imperialists" that our enemies always claimed we were.

Once that is understood, other mysteries solve themselves. For example, why does the administration seem unconcerned about an exit strategy from Iraq once Saddam is toppled?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:06 AM
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1. pnac
which also said that this march to world domination needed a tragic catalyst. Sorry, but I don't believe the official story of what happened on 911. It fits too neatly into their plans.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:11 AM
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2. thank you - I wish DU'ers would do more homework on this
If they want to argue against all us 911 so-called conspiracy nuts I suggest they punch holes in this first:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=...
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:33 PM
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14. Clem ....
You are new here ....

We have understood the goals of the PNAC for a very long time ..... We have done the 'homework' you apparently feel we havent done ....

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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:51 AM
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3. Sorry he failed
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 10:52 AM by Oversea Visitor
There is a whole coalition of nations now watching Bush. They will be playing hardball soon.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:07 PM
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7. 1.3 billion Chinese
300,000,000 Americans. It is hard to imagine.

180
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:30 PM
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13. Haha
Dont forget the EU, India, the Islamic nation and the South Americans
countries
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:57 AM
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4. What? We won't be leaving?!
Say it ain't so. So you've discovered PNAC - tell your friends. It never ceases to amaze me that people don't just figure it out all by themselves, just sitting around watching Fox, because it's beyond obvious at a glance. But sometimes knowing about PNAC helps the figuring along.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 04:55 PM
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5. No I haven't just discovered the PNAC
I'm posting this because it was one of the more well written articles on the subject and it provided a great deal of sources.

I will agree w/ you that more people can see through their transparancy - especially when they don't even try to hide any of their agendas

It's amazing how clueless many DUers are on the subject. First, they will start ranting conspiracy nut when someone starts posting things about 911 being a fabricated event. Then, an article will get posted on DU about an Iranian woman getting stoned to death and the post will get about 400+ horrified responses. 5 out of 400 responses will see through the pathetic propaganda attempt.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:26 PM
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6. OIC
Agreed on the quality of the article.
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:32 PM
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8. I think you give them too much credit
The rationale is not idealistic. Its baser than that. It was a way to divert attention from failure on 9/11 and the economy, and retain power.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:29 PM
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9. The motivation to do all this has to have some idealism behind it
I don't buy the idea that these guys are doing all this just for power and egos. Power, egos, and idealism.

I'm also not buying the excuse that everything is a failure w/ good intentions.

This excuse is used for everything.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:32 PM
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10. Whatever they planned, it has failed miserably. (nt)
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:44 PM
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12. and dangerously
probably one of the biggest fuckups in history.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:36 PM
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11. Those who don't learn from history are condemned to relive it.
Every nation that has ever tried to dominate the planet has fallen.

These guys just don't get it.
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