How do liberals hate the "working class", if we stand for workers rights,

[maveric]

universal healthcare, fair overtime laws, workplace safety, etc...

How do conservative republicans help the working class? How?

Fuck Hannity, Savage, Pigman and the rest of the pundits spreading this pure bullshit.

[revree]

1. WE ARE THE WORKING CLASS...

[stray cat]

4. We are but not most of our party leaders and politicians.

[Warpy]

7. Well, part of it, at any rate

Don't forget the bulk of the working class went through underfunded schools, listen to propaganda parading as news, and are making decisions based on lies, disinformation, and institutionalized ignorance. Don't forget they deeply resent those MBA types who swan into jobs that pay a hundred times what they get, don't know what they're doing, screw everything up, then get a soft landing on a golden parachute.

Like it or not, the DLC led Democrats look an awful like those management types that are screwing them. They sound an awful lot like them, too.

The American working person isn't stupid. S/he knows the GOP is wrong about nearly everything, but since the DLC led Democrats have only offered them more of the same policies that have been screwing them and the GOP offers them tax cuts, their decisions seem clear.

Until we get rid of those conservative elitist shitheads that have been losing election after election, we can give up on ever getting rid of the GOP stranglehold on government.

[Az]

2. The thinking is

Because we hate corporations we hate the institutions that employ the working class.

Supporting regulations forces companies to cut back thus hurting workers.

And of course the conservatives have bought into the religious view of freetrade being the greatest thing ever. Oh if the corporations do something the people don't like they can take action into their own hands and deny them business. Uhuh.

[maveric]

Republicans want relaxed OSHA regulations, Republicans want

lower wages, Republicans want to do away with OT in favor of comp-time. Republicans dont want to contribute to a worker's healthcare, Republicans want to kill labor unions, which give workers higher wages and better benefits. Republican take American jobs and outsource them!

Repulicans are Robber Barons that hate the working class.

I know, I'm preaching to the choir here but I need to rant.

[Az]

13. They have forgotten

That the purpose for all this is for We The People. Their obsession with being the #1 economy has destroyed all sense of reason. We do the things we do in order to form a more perfect union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. Not to make CEOs richer.

[Demit]

10. Yeah, like we hate the troops b/c we speak out against the ones who

send them to war.

[Worst Username Ever]

3. People think we hate the working class?

Are they crazy? We are 100% PRO middle/working class. Bush has done nothing but assail the middle class, dividing people into either upper or lower. Ridiculous. The working class is the basis of the whole damn party.

[txaslftist]

5. You've been at the Koolaid again...

The only idiots saying we hate the working class are the idiots over at Faux or other purveyors of r/w talking points. We ARE the working class, as worst says.

[stinkeefresh]

6. It's because they don't get our jokes.

I'm serious.

They think we think we're better than them. So they hate us. But since they don't want to be haters, they say we hated them first.

And everytime we tell a joke they don't get, it gets worse.

[Racenut20]

9. They hate you for your freedoms. hehehehe

[Nadienne]

12. What jokes?

We are the working class. How can we be better than the working class?

[punpirate]

14. In a way, this is part of the perception problem...

... the right has painted "libruls" as elitists--that's intended to alienate the working class, especially those with only or less than a public school education. I've mentioned this several times in the past, but a much more fleshed-out explanation of this phenomenon is available in Thomas Frank's What's the Matter With Kansas?

What the so-called hardhat working class still don't understand is that the same people helping to divide the working class from their traditional Democratic roots are using their votes to economically disenfranchise them. That's one of the reasons why the Republican right has hammered, relentlessly, the "family values" issue, and have been doing this consistently over time--with the express desire to create in the minds of average citizens the notion that liberalism is equatable to libertinism, elitism and moral turpitude. That's the magician's trick--watch the hand that is deriding liberalism while the other hand is picking their pockets.

The Republicans have done well at channeling the anger felt by the general public at their diminishing economic power into a moral outrage. Unfortunately, the Democrats have aided in this by steadily failing to defend the worker in legislation, and by trying to imitate the Republicans. The Republicans have worked hard to push the tone of public discourse steadily rightward, and the Democrats have tagged along behind, mumbling, "hey, we're moral, too, y'know." That weak argument has failed, if only because the right continues to say that Democrats are snooty elitists that have nothing in common with the working class.

Cheers.

[SariesNightly]

8. The following mouthpieces

"Hannity, Savage, Pigman and the rest of the pundits spreading this pure bullshit."

are paid for by these class of people..

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CEO salaries alone rose 8.7 percent on average in 2003 at the 70 companies, while U.S. employees' average pay inched up 1.5 percent and the economy shed 410,000 payroll jobs, the second consecutive annual loss.

William McDonough, chairman of the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board and former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, said last week that the rise in executive pay was "grotesquely immoral."

CEO pay, which in 1980 was 40 times larger than that of the average worker, grew to be 400 times to 550 times bigger by 2000, McDonough said in a speech last week at the Committee for Economic Development in Washington.
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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/170554_onthejob26.html

Reality? What reality?

[AmandaRuth]

11. remember repubs are all lies all the time

whatever they say, usually the opposite is true. And the rhetoric is getting loud now, because as Air America and Internet blogs take hold, the progressive, Dem message (you know, the truth) is getting out = the repubs hate hate hate the working class, and are even pursuing programs (or in the SS case, the destruction of programs) to eliminate the middle class. A nation of the very rich and the very poor is their wet dream.

[Bluzmann57]

15. Um... I am the "working class"

Just like my father and grandfathers before me. I belong to a Union, am trying to do right by my family and friends and am a avowed liberal Democrat. You see, these asses talk about how the "intellectual elite" run the party, but in my work with the Democratic Party, I have mostly encountered working stiffs like me. We made America, but we will not stand by and see it destroyed by the corporate bastards who currently run it. Would I like to make millions of dollars? Of course, but I realized a long time ago that it wasn't going to happen, in part because of my heritage. But people like me have something that a lot of rich repukes can never ever have, and that is love for our family and REAL values, such as it is wrong to murder, it is wrong to piss on someone just because they are less fortunate than we are, and other things like that. So for any trolling freepers out there, try and raise your families like most of us "no good working stiffs" are doing. I guess I have rambled a bit and I am sorry if I went a bit off topic. But screw it,people like us made this country great and want to make it great again.

[GOPBasher]

16. People will believe anything they say.

Even if it's the 180 degree opposite of reality.

[GOPBasher]

17. People will believe anything they say.

Even if it's the 180 degree opposite of reality.

[agitpropagent9]

18. my opinion is...

politicians are far too often elitists, born with the money or resources to win public office. many who champion the working class are geniunely empathetic to their struggle, and proceed on a basis of general altruism.

however, many others simply see the working class (and various ethnic groups) as a powerful voting bloc and, while they pander to them publicly, they often betray their interests behind the scenes.

they just sell a different product to a different demographic.