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wetbandit2003 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:15 PM
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Why Isnt Any of the OPEC Nations Donating for Tsunami Relief?
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 02:16 PM by wetbandit2003
Why isnt any of the OPEC nations Donating for Tsunami Relief?
It seems quite obsured since they make such profits on oil prices.
Just a thought.....
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:16 PM
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1. Interesting question ....
n/t.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:17 PM
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2. Saudi Arabia is kicking in a whopping 10 mil
huge i know! Kuwait is also donatiing, don't know how much though.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:21 PM
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9. Kuwait is matching the Saudi amount n/t
:-)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:23 PM
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10. Wow, really generous! not
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:26 PM
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13. Saudi Arabia - $30M; UAE - $20M
Japan's pledge of $500 million makes it the biggest of 44 donor countries that have promised aid. The 25 nations in the European Union committed $356 million, with additional pledges bringing the EU total to $581 million. The U.S. offer of $350 million follows an initial pledge of $35 million.

Norway pledged $180 million, the U.K. $96 million and Sweden $75 million. Canada doubled its pledge to $80 million. China increased aid to $60 million from $2.6 million, and Taiwan promised $50 million, up from $5 million. Australia pledged $47 million and said the amount will be increased.

Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil producer, pledged $30 million, after an initial promise of $10 million. The United Arab Emirates said it will donate $20 million, up from an initial pledge of $2 million.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=avkxTIMlYA0g&refer=uk
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MissBrooks Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:18 PM
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3. We were just talking about that at work!?
No Muslim Countries are donating - even though the majority of the victims were Muslim. Why? The Catholic Charities were there ASAP, the Mormans are sending all sorts of stuff... why are the Muslims ignoring their own!?

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:27 PM
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15. Your statement is just FALSE
Where are your facts, Miss Brooks? Why are you slandering Muslims with lies?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:33 PM
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20. You have Rush's words down pat
thanks for sharing the right wing meme of the day
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:49 PM
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26. You Disgust Me!
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 02:58 PM by Vinnie From Indy
You and your work mates should stop listening to Rush Limbaugh and start reading the bible a bit closer. Even though Jesus was renowned for turning the other cheek, I bet if he was here and read your post, he would kick your ass! That thought amuses me greatly!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:18 PM
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4. That is a very good question....
..You'd have thought that with the recent increase in oil prices they would be swimming with cash...
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:18 PM
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5. It's "aren't" not isn't and "absurd" not obsured.
And OPEC nations have pledged.............
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:23 PM
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11. obsured!
they really should give them spelling lessons before they send them over here! i know better than to ask that they also come armed with facts.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:26 PM
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14. Aren't it funny that
they have no clue that we are on to thems?
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:19 PM
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6. like which ones?
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 02:20 PM by fairfaxvadem
Just saw a blurb about Saudi Arabia upping their ante to $30 million, which I think is a bit on the cheap side, but it isn't "nothing".
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:20 PM
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7. They have no fear. BushInc always covers up for Saudi crimes and inaction.
You never hear him criticize the Saudis or Kuwaitis.

He made sure their involvement in 9-11 was covered up, too.

House of Bush, House of Saud. Bushes are traitors to the US, and loyal only to their international financier cronies.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:20 PM
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8. You wanna see stingy...try this
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 02:22 PM by RoeBear
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=74705

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait Donate Only $10 Million in Tsunami Aid

Kuwait, which The NY Times reported is expected to run a budget surplus this year of roughly $10 billion, has offered precisely 1/1000th of that amount, or $10 million, to aid the tsunami victims.
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These are their fellow believers in Islam, right?

This just in:
Saudi Arabia Triples Pledges for Tsunami Victims
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050104/dctu032_1.html
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Still pretty cheap considering their wealth and that they share a common religion.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:27 PM
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16. And to put in perspective...
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/01-04-2005/0002767030&EDATE=

Dow Pledges $5 Million to Aid Tsunami Relief Effort
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I doubt that Dow Chemical has as large a profit margin
as the Saudi's do.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:28 PM
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18. What does their religion have to do with anything?
Something stinks in this thread.
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TheKingfish Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:41 PM
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22. What does it have to do with Islam???
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:25 PM
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12. I see that is the question being pushed by right wing hate radio today
Soon, Fox will be broadcasting it 24/7 comparing it to Bush's generosity.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:55 PM
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29. Yes, we never have to listen to Rush.
Eager souls are always ready to let us know what he's been saying.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:28 PM
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17. I am astounded at the small mindedness
Who gives a crap if these people are Muslims? Why is that even an issue? I would think that if you were a raving fundamentalist Christian piece of dung, you would welcome the opportunity to 'correct" so many poor destitute Muslims and bring them to Jesus. I am no fan of the dictatorships that proliferate in Muslim countries, but the thinly veiled racism in these posts is ABSURD! My belief that racists are the least educated among us has been proven correct again by this thread!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:29 PM
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19. So true!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:34 PM
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21. Y'all forgot Jesus said "F' em if they don't know my secret handshake"
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:46 PM
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23. why is this a WHO CAN BE A BIGGER DICK competition?
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TheKingfish Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:46 PM
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24. Why are so many wingnuts illiterate?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:55 PM
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28. Why are so many illiterates wingnuts?
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:46 PM
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25. Maybe all you hecklers should read this
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 02:54 PM by Career Prole
and reconsider...
http://www.juancole.com/2005/01/middle-eastern-contributions-to.html

"I have suggested before that if you want to compare the donations, you can't do it in terms of absolute numbers. You have to look at the population of the country and at its per capita income.

The announced Saudi contribution of $10 million is probably about $0.66 cents a citizen on a per capita basis (I don't think the Saudi citizen population can possibly be over 15 million no matter what Riyadh says). The second US offer of $35 million was about 12 cents per person. Since US per capita income is approximately 4.5 times that of Saudi Arabia ($8500 Atlas method), however, the Saudi contribution should be seen as about $3.00 per citizen on a US scale, with regard to the real per capita burden. So the Saudi was a generous initial offer in comparison to that of the US.

The USG is now pledging about $1.19 cents per person ($350 million).

The Qatar offer of $25 million is about $250 per citizen.

The Kuwait offer of $2 million is $2.00 per citizen or $1.00 per person if guest workers are counted. Either way, it is comparable to the US offer on a per capita basis, and Kuwaiti per capita income is about half that of Americans. So any way you cut it, the Kuwaitis are not being chintzy unless you want to say Americans are moreso.

The Libyans are giving about $0.36 per person, and their per capita income (purchasing power parity method) is a little over $6,000. That is about 1/7 of the US per capita income, so their contribution burdens the Libyans the same way a roughly $2.50 per person contribution would burden Americans. Remember, the USG is currently giving a little over a dollar a person.

The Turks have offered 18 cents a person. But their per capita income is only about $3000 per year, or a tenth that of an average American, so this plege is equivalent to an American one of $1.80. That is, the Turks are giving one and a half times what Americans are if everything is taken into account.

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It is obvious that if we take their populations and actual per capita income into account, the offers made by many of these governments are generally more generous than that of the United States. A lot of Middle Eastern countries have small populations, so even if they gave a lot per capita, it would look small in absolute numbers. Apparently US pundits don't know things like the citizen population of Kuwait or the per capita income of Libya, and can't be bothered to look them up."

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Jesus H. Christ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:52 PM
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27. Which hecklers?
The bigots or those of us who are heckling the bigots?

Because your link indicates the Saudis are donating, proportionally three dollars per citizen compared with 12 cents for Americans. $250 for Qatar.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:57 PM
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30. Maybe You Should Just Break Out your White Hood
What is it about "being thy brother's keeper" that you yahoos don't understand? Have you even read the bible? Who give a flying fuck if Yemen gives a dime or if Saudi Arabia doesn't send clean underwear? Do you base all of your generosity in the giving of others. Jesus truly would kick your ass for being such sinner and defiling his temple.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:57 PM
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31. What is your source?
Is there a reputable site with the latest contributions per country? Of course, the population of each country should be included.

And, no, Rush is not an acceptable source.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:57 PM
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32. Locking
Folks this thread is becoming too inflammatory.

Thanks for your understanding.


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