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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:30 AM
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HAARP on this you bloggers
Nobody, or at least I didn't say that the recent earthquake was a direct result of bombs, nukes or otherwise... however, there is something out there that might be able to do damage that no one has ever conceived of.... except perhaps the almighty.

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu /
HIGH FREQUENCY ACTIVE AURORAL RESEARCH PROGRAM


http://www.haarp.net /
>>HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly -- HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.<<

>>Two Alaskans put it bluntly. A founder of the NO HAARP movement, Clare Zickuhr, says "The military is going to give the ionosphere a big kick and see what happens."
The military failed to tell the public that they do not know what exactly will happen, but a Penn State science article brags about that uncertainty. Macho science? The HAARP project uses the largest energy levels yet played with by what Begich and Manning call "the big boys with their new toys." HAARP is an experiment in the sky, and experiments are done to find out something not already known. Independent scientists told Begich and Manning that a HAARP-type "skybuster" with its unforeseen effects could be an act of global vandalism.<<
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:46 AM
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1. I believe Isaac Azimov once predicted this scenario...
... in his non-fiction book, "A Choice of Catastrophes". In any case, speculation about military manipulation of the ionosphere has been around for years and a number of books have been published on the subject.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:08 AM
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2. Only thing is... this is NOT speculation. Brezinzski isn't especially
fond of this technology....

http://www.haarp.net /
>>Related research by Begich and Manning uncovered bizarre schemes. For example, Air Force documents revealed that a system had been developed for manipulating and disturbing human mental processes through pulsed radio-frequency radiation (the stuff of HAARP) over large geographical areas.
The most telling material about this technology came from writings of Zbigniew Brzezinski (former National Security Advisory to U.S. President Carter) and J.F. MacDonald (science advisor to U.S. President Johnson and a professor of Geophysics at UCLA), as they wrote about use of power-beaming transmitters for geophysical and environmental warfare. The documents showed how these effects might be caused, and the negative effects on human heath and thinking.<<

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:28 AM
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3. Props, 4MoronicYears.
Imagine my delight at seeing HAARP brought up for discussion in TWO threads this morning (NecessaryOnslaught's being the other one)!

HAARP needs to be brought fully out into the open. Then there are a few more things that need a good looking-at...

:freak:
dbt
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:32 AM
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4. I blogged it yesterday
I saw one post about it, then went and researched it, blogged it, came back to DU and it's everywhere. I plan on probably doing further investigation/writing on the subject.

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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:02 AM
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10. Here's another site raising questions about the quake and HAARP---
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 09:04 AM by breadandwine
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/307042.shtml

It makes the point that the Aceh region is oil rich and charges (I don't know how accurately) that the U.S. warned its ships but not countries in the region of an impending tidal wave. Also, a senior commander involved in the invasion of Iraq has been assigned to lead the US emergency relief program. The site charges that the military force we are sending to the region will essentially take over the oil area to "restore order" to the region.

There is also a civil war going on in the area that hinders access to the oil. In the chaos of the catasrophe and our willingness to "help" the charge is that we will take over the oil.

But how accurate this theory is I don't know.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:37 AM
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5. Another article about HAARP
HAARP Poses Global Threat
The use of the new geophysical weapon might lead to the global catastrophe


http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/15/42068.html
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:26 AM
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6. it is a big Tesla coil, funding comes from the energy companies that
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 08:27 AM by sam sarrha
own the 4 Corners coal fired plants..

there are maybe 3 more of these things along the same latitude in Europe we know of
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:42 AM
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7. From the introduction to "Angels Don't Play this HAARP"
The Eastlund ionospheric heater was different; the radio frequency (RF) radiation was concentrated and focused to a point in the ionosphere. This difference throws an unprecedented amount of energy into the ionosphere. The Eastlund device would allow a concentration of one watt per cubic centimeter, compared to others only able to deliver about one millionth of one watt.

This huge difference could lift and change the ionosphere in the ways necessary to create futuristic effects described in the patent. According to the patent, the work of Nikola Tesla in the early 1900's formed the basis of the research.

...

For a time, HAARP researchers could not prove that this was one of the intended uses for HAARP. In April, 1995, however, Begich found other patents, connected with a "key personnel" list for APTI. Some of these new APTI patents were indeed a wireless system for sending electrical power. Eastlund's patent said the technology can confuse or completely disrupt airplanes' and missiles' sophisticated guidance systems. Further, this ability to spray large areas of Earth with electromagnetic waves of varying frequencies, and to control changes in those waves, makes it possible to knock out communications on land or sea as well as in the air.

...

Begich found eleven other APTI Patents. They told how to make "Nuclear-sized Explosions without Radiation," Power-beaming systems, over-the-horizon radar, detection systems for missiles carrying nuclear warheads, electromagnetic pulses previously produced by thermonuclear weapons and other Star-Wars tricks. This cluster of patents underlay the HAARP weapon system.

Related research by Begich and Manning uncovered bizarre schemes. For example, Air Force documents revealed that a system had been developed for manipulating and disturbing human mental processes through pulsed radio-frequency radiation (the stuff of HAARP) over large geographical areas....

http://www.freedomdomain.com/weathercontrol/pandora.htm
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:58 AM
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8. Oh, please
HAARP is just an ionospheric heater. It's not even a particularly good one since it's largely in place as pork from the alaska congressional delegation.

Give it a rest. Next thing you'll all be posting how fluoride is killing the US.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:58 AM
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9. Advances in Tesla Technology
1980's: In the later part of the decade the U.S. begins network of Ground Wave Emergency Network (GWEN) towers, each to generate Very Low Frequency (VLF) waves for defense purposes .

1987-92: Other APTI scientists build on Eastiund patents for development of new weapon capabilities.

1994: Military contractor E-Systems buys APTI, holder of Eastiund patents and contract to build biggest ionospheric heater in world (HAARP).

1994: Congress freezes funding on HAARP until planners increase emphasis on earth-penetrating tomography uses, for nuclear counter proliferation efforts.

1995: Raytheon buys E-Systems and old APTI patents. The technology is now hidden among thousands of patents within one of the largest defense contractor portfolios.

1995: Congress budgets $10 million for 1996 under "nuclear counterproliferation" efforts for HAARP project.

1995: HAARP planners to test patent number 5,041,834 in September.

1994-6: Testing of first-stage HAARP (euphemistically named High frequency Active Auroral Research Program) equipment continues, although funding was frozen.

1996: HAARP planners to test the earth-penetrating tomography applications by modulating the electroject at Extremely Low Frequencies

1998: Projected date for fully-operating HAARP system.

http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/redir/index406.html
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:57 AM
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11. what are you saying? radio waves cause earthquakes
or is all you are saying "might be able to do damage"?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:04 AM
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12. Testimony of Dr Carol Rosin
December 2000
From Duncan Roads
nexusmagazine@optusnet.com.au

Dr Carol Rosin was the first woman corporate manager of Fairchild Industries and was spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun in the last years of his life. She founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space in Washington DC and has testified before Congress on many occasions about space based weapons. Von Braun revealed to Dr Rosin a plan to justify weapons in spaced based on hoaxing an extraterrestrial threat. She was also present at meetings in the '70s when the scenario for the Gulf War of the '90s was planned.

CR: Dr Carol Rosin
SG: Dr Steven Greer

CR: My name is Carol Rosin. I am an educator who became the first woman corporate manager of an Aerospace Company, Fairchild Industries.

I am a Space and Missile Defense Consultant and have consulted to a number of companies, organizations, and government departments, even the intelligence community. I was a consultant to TRW working on the MX missile, so I was part of that strategy, which turned out to be a role model for how to sell space-based weapons to the public. The MX missile is yet another weapon system that we didn't need. I founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space, a Washington DC based think tank. I am an author and have testified before Congress and the President's Commission on Space.

When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries from 1974 through 1977, I met the late Dr Wernher Von Braun. We first met in early 1974. At that time, Von Braun was dying of cancer but he assured me that he would live a few more years to tell me about the game that was being played- that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control the Earth from space and space itself. Von Braun had a history of working with weapons systems. He escaped from Germany to come to this country and became a Vice President of Fairchild Industries when I had met him. Von Braun's purpose during the last years of his life, his dying years, was to educate the public and decision-makers about why space-based weapons are dumb, dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary, unworkable, and an undesirable idea, and about the alternatives that are available.

As practically a deathbed speech, he educated me about those concepts and who the players were in this game. He gave me the responsibility, since he was dying, of continuing this effort to prevent the weaponization of outer space. When Wernher Von Braun was dying of cancer, he asked me to be his spokesperson, to appear on occasions when he was too ill to speak. I did this.

What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence that he said to me over and over again during the approximately four years that I had the opportunity to work with him. He said the strategy that was being used to educate the public and decision makers was to use scare tactics That was how we identify an enemy. The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. We were told that they had "killer satellites". We were told that they were coming to get us and control us-that they were "Commies."

more
http://www.mayanmajix.com/art742.html
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satori Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:27 AM
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13. World renowned scientist-The Earth as a weapon in 21st Century of Wars
Third World Network
The Earth as a weapon in 21st Century of Wars
By Rahab S Hawa

While scientists, governments and concerned groups worry about increased industrial emissions of greenhouse gases and its effects on the planet, the role of the military in climate change has been ignored.

When environmental crises occur, it is usually only the civilian economy that is called upon to rectify the balance, while military programmes are rarely taken to task, says Dr Rosalie Bertell, renowned scientist and nuclear activist.

At the Peoples Health Assembly in December 2000 in Dhaka, Bangladesh, Dr. Bertell revealed to a shocked and incredulous audience that the latest weapons in the arsenal of the US military is Planet Earth itself ... and weather will be one of the worst destructive weapons by the year 2025.

Dr. Bertell was referring to how engineered earthquakes and tornadoes could wreak havoc on populations and nations.

http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/hawa2.htm

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