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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:13 AM
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Are tectonic weapons ( methods to trigger massive earthquakes)
feasible? In some post I have seen references to them, but do not understand whether this is a fantasy or technically feasible? Just the thought of being able to trigger the kind of devastation the recent tsunami has wrought on S/SE Asia gives me the chills.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:26 AM
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1. IMHO think about how building are "imploded"
If they can place charges to bring down a building just so, predicting were a charge along a fault line would be doable.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:28 AM
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2. Unlax a bit.
It is hard to trigger natural something that is not ready to be triggered. Also there is the placement problem to get the desired result.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:29 AM
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3. dunno
Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, quoted as saying at a conference in April 1997, "Others are engaging even in an eco type of terrorism, whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes or volcanos remotely, through the use of electromagnetic waves."


"A Moscow newspaper reports that Russian scientists tried to harness earthquakes as a means of mass destruction, and the research continued under the new Russian government long after the Soviet Union collapsed."
Correspondent Mike Hornbrook: "The Moscow News called it 'Earthquakes Made To Order.' In a detailed article, the newspaper says research of the so-called tectonic weapons began under the Communists in the 1970s. By late 1987, the Soviet government ordered a major effort to develop such a weapon. "It was code-named Project Mercury and Project Vulcan, and involved almost two dozen major scientific and manufacturing centers.

old conjecture.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 10:53 AM
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7. Interesting here's a link about that:
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 11:00 AM by breadandwine
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/307042.shtml

There the idea is being promoted, based on Cohen's own assertions and the fact that the area of Aceh is oil rich and that there have been "irregularites" in the U.S.'s warnings to the region after the quake plus the personalities involved in the U.S.'s sudden interest in helping, who were also involved with the Iraq war. The site charges that the U.S. is seeking to take over the oil in the area where a local civil war is making that difficult.

The site emphasises that earthquake manipulation might be possible using the secret U.S. project called HAARP the High-alttitude Active Auroral Research Project (involved with electrifying or ionizing the upper atmosphere) which is widely believed to be involved with weather modification as a potential weapon. Whether the same electromagnetic radiation could be directed effectively into the ground to promote earthquakes is another question. It has been observed that these secret government projects are ten or more years ahead of where the public thinks they are.

I Don't know what to think. This is the first I've heard that EM (electromagnetic radiation) might be useful in promoting an earthquake.

But if the secretary of defense himself says earthquake weapons are possible........

EM research has been going on since Tesla who specifically said such radiation could be used as weapons and under Reagan (or earlier) the U.S. signed on to this with research that led to HAARP.

Another aspect of all this is that water plays a poorly understood role in earthquake and volcanic activity. This is one reason why a great many volcanoes are on the perimeter of the Pacific Ocean where tectonic plates meet AND where there is also water. The water seeps in between the plates and alters the pressure as steam builds up or is released, thus potentially altering seismic or volcanic behavior.

But what would happen if someone DELIBERATELY drilled into a fault line and began pumping water down there? In the oil rich Aceh area oil drilling could easily be a "cover" for such a thing. I emphasize that that is purely speculative as far as my knowledge goes.

What is apparently not speculative is that the then-secretary of defense said that earthquake weapons are already being developed, and Aceh is oil rich.

Every potential weapon in existence or development immediately results in a response by the U.S. to make the same for defensive purposes you understand of course.

For instance, some years ago a team of scientists went on an excursion to near the North Pole where an old ship had been stuck in ice for decades. People on the ship had died from the terrible flu epidemic of the early part of the 20th Century, which killed 20 million people almost overnight. People in the U.S. who felt well enough to go to work died before their city bus got to their office.

And one other thing. Accompanying that scientific team were military personnel who of course were only along because they wanted to learn about a disease that might some day hurt American soldiers.

This excursion was not according to some website but was according to a front page New York Times article.

Of course, they wanted a SAMPLE and everybody knows that that specific flu epidemic badly affected troops in the trenches in World War I.

So if you ask if the Pentagon wanted a sample as a bio weapon, don't expect me to laugh at you.

In any case, Cohen's claim that OTHERS are developing earthquake weapons is code language for: We have to do the same thing.

And even if an earthquake is eventually due to happen in an area sometime in the next few years, hastening it could be incredibly useful to a nation willing to be that diabolical.

Incidentally, Cohen was a moderate Republican and a Clinton appointee. I would sooner take his word than the word of the crackpot who has his job now.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:30 AM
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4. yes
Lex Luthor in superman one.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:55 AM
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5. I think the melting of the polar icecaps
has a lot more to do with this, than anyone's tectonic weapons.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 06:55 AM
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6. Dupe
Edited on Sun Jan-02-05 06:55 AM by DoYouEverWonder
oops

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