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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:36 AM Original message |
For the next ten minutes, I will answer any questions about Peak Oil. |
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davidlynch (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. Is There Any Alternative That Can Really Replace Oil? |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. We're all fucked. |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
38. Nuclear + hydrogen |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Sounds good. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
53. of course. the question is, how long will it take |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. When do you expect it to hit? This decade, next century, when? |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. 2005-2008. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. How are you personally planning on dealing with the ramifications |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I'm going back to school |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. No, I mean are you going to try to join a farming co-op, etc? |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Good question,. |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. yeah thanks a hell of a lot for answering mine..... |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Please restate your question, I'll do my best |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Best regards to you too, Peak Oil. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
4. Whch developed coutnries will be LEAST affected? (nt) |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. All developed countries are fucked. |
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Mistress Quickly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. What about all the products made from petrolium |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Fuels for what? Commuting to your job at the insurance company? |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. What about all the new sources, Canadian tar sands, etc |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. We're fucked anyway. |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 03:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
52. Trouble with tar sands derived oil |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
66. thank you, JohnyCanuck |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
11. What do you base your figure of 2005-2008 on? |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Oh also |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. I think you missed this question Peak |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Very good question. |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Just a side question |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
90. Sorry about being sarcastic. |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Ali Samsam Bakhtiari. |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
41. Matthew Simmons, Ali Samsam Bakhtiari, Ken Deffeyes. |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
13. Can I convert my Prius |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. No problem. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. There is an alternative fuel which is available currently |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Decent partial solution. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:43 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I thought you went to bed, Peak Oil. :-) |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
16. Another one. |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Yes, this is the same thing. |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:57 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. What the hell??? |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:06 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. OK, I'll see what I can do. |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:09 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You don't have to apologize for being a downer |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Good for you. |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Honestly, I wish I could. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Here is a good book to start learning about Peak Oil. |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Thanks |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No problem. |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:38 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Solid. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
64. ....and here's another site by Al Bartlett |
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rustydad (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
104. Boy cried wolf |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
32. OK. Here's a good one. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Check out this link - this DUer is looking for researchers |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Here's what you're looking for. |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
92. Hey, answer found! |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
98. any fuel that you're going to "make" will cost energy |
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jojo54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
46. O.K. this is really scaring the crap out of me |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Sucks, doesn't it? |
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jojo54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:53 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. It more than sucks |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:58 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. My man. |
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jojo54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 03:05 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. That's cool but |
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Peak_Oil (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 03:05 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Don't kid yourself. |
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Must_B_Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
54. why do people assume it will all dissapear at once? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 07:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. exactly |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
82. Someone I know who is in the business said this: |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:05 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. What makes you think people assume it will disappear at once? |
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Must_B_Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:24 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. all of the "sky is falling" prognostications |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 09:27 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Take your head out of the sand and check out this site |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
69. We don't, its market forces that will actually be worse than actual... |
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Gyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 11:59 AM Response to Reply #57 |
81. logarithmic equations |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
56. Doesn't anybody here know about Thermal Depolymerization? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:07 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. how much energy will it take to convert waste into fuel? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. The process is about 85% efficient. That is pretty good. |
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Must_B_Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:25 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. The reason we're dependent on oil is because master says so. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:43 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I don't believe in conspiracy theories at that level. NT |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:30 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. after all, people at that level can only be "good" people, right? |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:46 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. No. Just they don't have THAT much power. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. depends how you define "power"; |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
93. Define your terms please. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. my terms |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. we are dependant on oil because very few alternatives are in place |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 08:45 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Out of every 100 units of energy produced by the process |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #56 |
71. Problem is time, money and investment... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Peak_Oil, not a question, just some things I want to mention for... |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. Coal-fired power plants are in back in vogue |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:21 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. That's the problem... |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Once again |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. No, but it can mean disruption at the very least... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. nobody says "peak"="end" |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. I was merely pointing out |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. No, once again... |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Yes |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. It's not the end of supply, it is the end of sufficient supply. |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Let's be honest |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:24 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. of course the govt isn't going to do anything about it |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
95. That was going to be my question |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
101. Agricultural "waste" will not be available generally to convert |
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rustydad (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. You are very correct! |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Weeds can be processed too. |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
72. Peak Oil is a MYTH. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Dude, no offense... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. ... according to "dave" |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #72 |
85. Not the best argument on those links... |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Why 100 years? |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
80. Has it been ten minutes yet? |
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
84. Biodiesel could at least move the food trucks |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. That much is true... |
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Yeah, we should invest in Family Farms |
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apple_ridge (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
100. Peak oil would be the best thing that ever happened to this |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. Um, no. |
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heidler1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. There is an up side: Global warming will gradually go away. |
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