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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 06:00 AM
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Bush proposes "adjusting" Iraqi elections
2nd part of article -- scroll down

if he did it here -- why not there?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2002131526_iraqvote27.html

A spokesman for Iraq's election commission yesterday rejected a suggestion from the Bush administration that it adjust the results of next month's vote to expand the Sunni Arab presence in the new legislature and government if low turnout in the volatile Sunni areas means Shiites win an exaggerated majority in the new 275-seat assembly.

The New York Times reported yesterday that Shiite leaders had been discreetly approached about the idea by American officials, who argued that including the Sunnis, who make up about 20 percent of the population, would diminish the chances of post-election violence against the Shiites, who are 60 percent of Iraq's 26 million population.

Calling the U.S. overtures unacceptable interference, Electoral Commission spokesman Farid Ayar said: "Who wins, wins. That is the way it is. That is the way it will be in the election.

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in other news of the future:

Bush wins Iraqi Election
Pre-tallied exit polls, vote-switching machines, and pre-punched ballots have determined George W. Bush is the new President of Iraq.

Speaking from Camp D'Avid, the newly elected President Bush declares he has a mandate. When asked about reports of vote tampering, President Bush said "err, yeah, well it's just a few bad guys trying to , ummm, you know, destroy our freedoms."



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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 06:02 AM
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1. that thieving bastard should be allowed zero "INPUT"
asshole
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 06:06 AM
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2. How would Boy George like it if the Iraqis "adjusted" our elections?
We'd probably have President Kerry.

Not a bad idea!
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:18 AM
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12. Well, the Bin Laden family through the Carlyle group .....
probably did.

The republithugs have gerrymandered so many districts in our nation that the possibility of electing any Democrat has been looking progressively bleak.

I am not surprised that this group of hoods would hesitate with the opportunity to rig yet another election.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 06:09 AM
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3. Why, THAT will certainly give the Iraqi people confidence...
...in the legitimacy of this election.:eyes:

Can you stand it? Could this administration be any more DUMB????
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 06:19 AM
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4. We know his people "adjusted" ours...
these fuckers love "adjusting" everything, particularly facts that contradict what they spew.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:13 AM
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11. They are crooks
and should be jailed for war crimes, and crimes against people's right to vote.

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 06:43 AM
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5. related? Sunni party boycotts Iraq polls
Sunni party boycotts Iraq polls
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4127623.stm


Iraq's main Sunni Muslim political movement, the Iraqi Islamic party, says it is withdrawing from next month's general elections.

The party's leader told reporters in Baghdad that the move was motivated by the authorities' refusal to delay elections so all areas could vote.

"We said we would take part only if certain conditions had been met and they have not," Mohsen Abul Hamid said.


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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 07:14 AM
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6. I can't believe what I'm reading
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 07:17 AM by OnionPatch
We are trying to promote democracy around the world, we get ready for elections in Iraq, then we admit that we don't really believe in democracy at all!!!! That it's ok to feign election legitimacy? :wtf:

Ok, that article just erased any doubt at all in my mind that they have "adjusted" the elections here. If they can justify in their minds the "adjusting" of a democratic election in Iraq or ANYWHERE, they can justify it in their minds here too. I am sick.
(Just when you think you can't get anymore appalled. :puke:)
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 07:18 AM
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7. How blatant can you be?
He doesn't even bother to hide it anymore. He stole 2000, there was certainly funny business going on in 2004, he's so cocky confident that he'll get away with it and no one who matters will say a discouraging word that he can come right out and declare that he'll fix the election to go the way he wants it to.

Emperor Nero Bush. Just remember, Rome was Republican.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 07:27 AM
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8. not Nero -- Stalin
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. --- Joseph Stalin
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joseph_stalin.html

.........

another quote that seems to apply to the political situation today...

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas. --- Joseph Stalin
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 07:33 AM
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9. This will sit well with.................
the Sunnis and the insurgents from elsewhere. It will certainly back up their claims that the new Iraqi government will be nothing more than pawns of The Bush White House and be another recruiting tool in their burgeoning arsenal of recruiting tools. "*" is making it so damn easy for them to recruit it isn't funny. He's the best thing that could ever happen for Osama etal.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 08:57 AM
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10. These guys never let up.
They know exactly how to run an election with the results you want, not the results you have.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:45 AM
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13. Iraqi Kurds petition UN for independence poll
Iraqi Kurds petition UN for independence poll
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200412/s1272667.ht...

More than 1.7 million Iraqi Kurds have signed a petition calling for a referendum on independence.

A Referendum Movement in Kurdistan spokesman says a delegation from their organisation has travelled to the United Nations headquarters in New York to hand over the petition.


---snip---

The movement's campaign is not supported by Iraq's two main Kurdish former rebel groups - the Kurdistan Democratic Party and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan - which have long limited their demands to autonomy within a federal constitution for fear of offending Iraq's powerful neighbours.

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