Why Are They Giving the Bastard a Microphone Tomorrow Night???

[Starpass]

Just heard that Bush is addressing the nation in primetime tomorrow. Let me blow here a minute because I'm dizzy with the lying, shiting spin that is swirling around this.

This is suppose to be to tell us what is going "right" in Iraq...here's the media whores spinning today: They say that Bush is not doing this under any pressure what so ever but planned to do it all along. They claim it has absoulutely nothing to do with the fact that the repukes in Congress have been going nutso for him to do it because they are getting slammed during their summer vacations at home about this situation and are afraid that if Bush doesn't "grab and control the dialogue" on this, they will all be in political trouble. Gosh, imagine their surprise when Bush came back to D.C. and said, "why I had thought that up all by my wittle bitty self". (ahhh, does this stink just like the claim that going back to the UN was part of his brilliant master strategy??----give me a fucking break).

But this is what I'm livid about. Do you recall a speech Bush wanted to give to the nation on primetime tv a while back, and he was denied by the major networks---it was only carried on cable news. This was because it really had nothing to do with a factual, or whatever, address that presidents need to make to the people; but rather that it was just a political piece of shit to get his ass out of whatever wringer it was in at the time. Wellll, what the fuck is this then??? Goddamn it, the facts are the list of dead bodies, and terrorist attacks they can't control, and electrical problems, etc. This shit tomorrow is to tell us that "roses are growing in the dessert were none were before" and that Iraqis are sending thousands of letters to Bush per day thanking him for saving them or some such shit!! This is the kickoff of the political season for the asshole and they are giving him primetime, free. They ran the football kickoff in the D.C. Mall against the Dems debate which, of course, was not covered on any network. This is such blatant shit. I hope the Dem candidates have claws out and are ready to go---and I hope to god (what am I deluisional or what), that maybe a network or two would allow a few words after by some Dem. Well, anyway, we can see the shit we will be up against with this whoring media. Why don't they follow it with representatives from, oh, say, France or Germany asking whistle ass questions----now that would be worth watching.

[blm]

1. We have 9 candidates ready to pounce.

If he lies, I'm sure they'll call him on it.

Recalling the no news aspect of the other speech, some may be right about the WMDs that may have been successfully planted by now.

[Starpass]

4. blm----kinda heard something

In this media whoring one did ask the WH correspondent if there was anything "new" but correspondent who was doing her cheerleading best to drum up enthusiasm for the great man, said in essence, "well, no...blah, blah" and then indicated that he just wanted to assure the people, blah, blah, or some such shit. Let's put it this way. Wouldn't it seem a tad "convenient", if after his vacation and political stumping, etc., he just happened to remember that we found those goddamn WMDS and thought he would mention it. It would stink to hight heaven (but then again Americans have not exactly been known for their intelligence!). Yep we do know where one WMD is at least; it's in the Oval Office: Wortheless Misinformed Drunk.

[blm]

6. HAHAH...Worthless Misinformed Drunk

Starpass, have they done ANYTHING in all these years that DOESN'T stink?

[w4rma]

25. 9 candidates, none of which the networks will cover

Remember Al Gore's speech? They cut him off for the talking heads.

[FauxNewsBlues]

2. Democratic Response?

Since we are after Labor Day and in campaign mode, this should be considered a campaign speech. We need to fax,call, email the news networks to get a democratic response on this speech. Does anybody know if the democrats are planning one? Perhaps get Pelosi or Daschle to give it.

[Starpass]

5. Faux---that's exactly what I mean-----this is just political

and is nothing more than letting George shit on all the work the Dems did by letting him "have the nation" free tomorrow night. His "opinions" of how "good" things are over there then need to be matched by Dems telling how "good they ain't". Fuck these bastards. It just told me they are 100% willing to ride to Georgie's aid. Watch the fuckers numbers go up after this.

[prolesunited]

3. From a related thread

About "Hussein Link to 9/11 Lingers in Many Minds"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=99669&mesg_id=99669

Here was the theory I put forth there:

I wager that Bush in his address to the nation Sunday night will say something to reinforce this link between Iraq and 9/11. The invasion of Iraq has gone horribly wrong and people are actually starting to notice and the 9/11 anniversary is next week.

I believe he (Rove actually) will prey upon people's emotions in an effort to regain support for this disaster in Iraq. Wounds and psychic scares will be reopened in the coming week as print and news media guide them through reliving the horror. We will be reminded that if we don't destroy all of the evil Muslims who hate us, they will try to kill us. (I don't believe this but far too many do.)

Our most primal instincts -- fear, revenge, need for safety — overwhelms rational thought unless held in check and they know how to harness this into a collective bloodlust. People are starting to wake up and come out of their fear-induced trance. Bush's job Sunday night and the media's job in the coming week will be to push us back into a safety-seeking stupor.

[blm]

7. Accurate view...

and the likely one.

[Starpass]

9. proles--I noted how they are gearing up

I see that there are going to be big series on 9/11, etc. and the Bush movie on some HBO (don't think it's on reg networks). What struck me was that they are going WAY bigger on it this year than they did before. And I'm sure it's going to be of festival proportions this time next year. So, indeed, the kickoff is to rely on same old shit that worked in the past. NOW it's up to the Dems not to let it rest---for example, the "horror" of 9/11 needs to be shown to include the "ordered by the WH" lying they did to all the rescue workers and NYC office workers and residents when they told them the air was "just fine". Or, the treatment of Firemen and Cops by the GOP after they took photo ops with them, etc. They cannot let this bastard get away with this any longer. Of course, I do have some comfort. It's new tv season. And, I can see his minions and Dems who hate his guts watching; but I don't think Americans are in the mood to see him. They will switch off. It isn't like 9/11 when they watched because they wanted to see what happened, what we were going to do, etc. I think they just think of him as a drunken, lying douche bag and the image of dead soldiers hits them more than his mouth flapping with lies....they already heard the shit all dressed up in a flight suit....remember?

[prolesunited]

14. You're right

As they try to exploit 9/11, we need to hit the points you brought up over and over again. This provides Dems with an excellent opportunity to point out Bush's shortcomings in dealing with this situation.

[Sophree]

8. They're in semi-crisis mode

And I think it's obvious to all but the most moronic Bushbot (and the dumbshit presstitutes) that they are on the defensive.

People are experiencing "Be careful what you wish for" syndrome re: Iraq. They got their little war and now reality is setting in and it's going to take something major by the * camp to counter this.

[loudnclear]

10. Why would thinking people watch him?

I refuse to watch.

[Flying_Pig]

11. Why? You know why Starpass....

From the beginning, corporate-mega-media has been a part of the BFEE conspiracy. They, quite simply, are traitors, for collaborating with this regime to disseminate untrue, and mortally injurious propaganda.

It is my opinion, that once the elections are over, and upon taking office, our new Dem president should, post-haste, start prosecutions, on charges of treason and sedition, against many in the major media. In addition, he should, by executive order, re-institute the "Fairness Doctrine, and immediately (upon removal and prosecution of Ashcroft), bring RICO based charges against all of the major media corporations in this country, and further, call for anti-trust investigations, and break up of media conglomerations.

While we discuss of all kinds of reforms here, all are worthless, unless we can re-democratize our media. Without a free media, we will not have a free country, ...simple as that.

[Starpass]

16. Flyingpig--yep been saying that all along here plue ONE other

in addition, a new Dem president would be wise to sling the full power of the Att. General's office and the IRS at these tv preachermen and other such vermin. These bastards sit on the tax exempt status and are nothing but propaganda machines for the right and looters of stupid and old people. I would hunt the Falwells and the Robertsons (and his half a million dollar race horses, etc.) until I had them well exposed to the public. They are also a piece of the puzzle that is bringing this democracy to an end.

[Flying_Pig]

19. Good idea! Might as well do it right,...

and attempt to put all the "vermin" out of business!
:hi:

[liberalmuse]

12. His numbers are down...

the news from the mainstream media regarding his policies has been less-than-favorable for the first time since 9-11, and most of our Dem candidates sprouted some cojones the other night. I'm not at all surprised shrub is making a tv appearance, and I think it was purposely timed to coincide with the Reifenstahlesque movie on Showtime. He's probably going to say the economy is recovering, promise Americans jobs, talk about the progress being made in Iraq, warn us about impending 'terra attacks', insinuate that the Dem candidates are anti-American, tell us that not supporting his war is tantamount to supporting terra, and spitting on our soldiers, etc, etc, etc. In other words, same 'ol sh*t.

[wtmusic]

13. It's a setup for the 9/11 anniversary

Planting seeds of fear.

Also look for references to Saddam's torture chambers and heartwarming tales of American benevolence in Iraq.

[ComerPerro]

21. Oh definately

They will probably just reassure us that Saddam was evil, and that he had WMD but then hid them all in Russia, Germany and France.

[readmylips]

15. Terrible crisis for bushie regime...

He aint got nothing left but pure politics. CNN said that little man bushie will speak for 15 minutes, sound-bites. Gergen said that it was about 'politics.' And who knows better, David Gergen the master of lies and distortion.

[Starpass]

17. Welllll, if Gergen says it's about politics...........grrrrrrrr

...then back to my orginial point: what the fuck are they giving him prime time tv for????? I assume all the networks are going to give him this. If it's like the one they denied him and only CNN, MSNBC, etc. have it, that's fine. Even though those whores have no business showing it without 15 min. of Dems. BUT, if the reg networks do this, than they have lost all credibility. Does anyone know if they ALL are going to show it????

[calm_blue_ocean]

18. Bush speech

I think you have to give the president good access to the airwaves, like president's have traditionally had.

Don't get me wrong, I can't listen to the Chimp -- he annoys me and he lies.

However, I don't want to set up some kind of bad precedent.

Lets say that in 2007 President Dean wants to give a televised speech on his FCC's new media deconsolidation rules, and other revitalizations of antitrust law. I wouldn't want the networks deciding whether Dean's speech was mere "propaganda" or "campaigning."

Story to consider: I have heard that free speech zones were originally created and used to decide how close protesters could get to a pro-choice clinic. Of course, these zones are now used to keep protestors away from His Chimperial Presence. You have to watch it with any measure chilling speech. It can get turned around on your team in a hurry.

[Starpass]

20. calm--but there was a speech within the last year that they refused

to pick up because it was not a "major address" but just politics and thus it was only picked up by cable news networks. In other words, the other side of the coin is that they cannot let a president hijack free the airwaves for address after address pushing his political agenda and covering his political ass while making others pay for commercials. Once they cross that line, they are only propagandists. And, that's why the 3 networks refused to carry that one speech. They need to also not carry this unless Bush tells them it is necessary to either announce findings of WMDS or Sadaam, etc. or he's pulling out some troops, or he is expanding the war, etc.

[calm_blue_ocean]

23. I believe you that they did that

I just don't think the networks should be picking and choosing on a case by case basis, based on the content of a speech. They may be doing a good job now (to build our trust), but they will burn us in the end.

Perhaps, the networks could set up some content neutral rules.

For example, one presidential speech per quarter, except in cases of national emergency.

It is true that incumbent presidents have always had a bully pupit that their challengers do not. People like FDR certainly took advantage of this.

The other side of the coin is that presidents are held accountable for the way things are going in the US Their challengers are not. This enhanced responsibility is why sitting presidents deserve "free air time." This is also why Chimpy's popularity will continue to slip no matter how many speeches he makes.

[imax2268]

22. Starpass...

I am in total agreement with you...how much more crap about turrrurrrists threatening Amuurrrica are we going to hear...what is he going to say that we have already heard and found out not to be true?
How much longer do we have to listen to him bring up 9/11...? I for one am not ready for the media spectacles that will be going on...I mean no disrespect to the victims or their famalies...but let's move on shall we...

[bfusco]

24. Your right is spin but will anyone buy it?

This speech is damage control. 9/12/02 was the kickoff for the Nov-2002 elections becuause you "don't launch new products in August". The difference this year is BushCo is playing defense and their asses are pinned on the goal line. Iraq is violent, bloody quagmire, the military is turning on the neo-cons civilians at the Pentagon, Bush will need to ask for 70 billion more to fund the reconsturction (on top of the billion a week we are now spending), the military can not keep the troops deployed at this level past the spring and it's now time to crawl back to the cheese eaters and choclate makers and beg for help while they snub their noses at us and say I told you so and go to hell for all that Old Europe/Freedom Fries crap. Americans are starting to open their eyes, Bush's approval is sinking and the Democrats are starting to realize they have fangs. So it's time to play the card on the eve of 9/11 anniversaries that Bush is protecting us, the need for sacrafice against the evil duer's who wish to kill us because they hate our freedom and this is a war on terror and the terrorists/Saddam loyalists/foreighn Al Qaeda fighters are all being drawn to Iraq where our corageous military will fight and deystroy them and how we liberated Iraqis and remember the mass graves and torture chamber and you know the rest of the BS lines that that Rove will use to spin this complete failure.

[grasswire]

26. fine

Give any president the time he wants on the networks. As long as there is equal time for the opposition. That prevents the president from abusing the privilege.

[Q]

27. Expect only (some) of the Dem candidates to speak up...

...about the many Bush* lies and deceits. They're in 'patriotic' mode until further notice.

[calm_blue_ocean]

28. Are you also implicitly suggesting that . . .

Republicans be granted equal time for any Democratic primary debates that are televised?

[populistmom]

29. Since he's been losing support for awhile now

Maybe they're annoucing that that've finally planted...oops... I mean "found" the WMDS!
Then all will be fine with the sheep again.