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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:38 PM
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President of the Catholic League weighs in on Hollywood:
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Radical Right Catholic Group: Jews hate Christians, love anal sex (I kid you not) by John in DC - 12/13/2004 03:37:07 PM

Thanks to Josh for pointing out this recent broadcast of MSNBC's Scarborough Country.

I do have to ask, what is this man even doing on TV at this point? He is no better than David Duke. He's a Jew-hater. Yet he goes on American Family Radio. He goes on MSNBC. The American Family Association's AgapePress quotes Donahue to defend their positions on "family" issues. Would they quote David Duke and other Jew-haters to defend their positions on their culture wars? Or is any Jew-hating bigot is a-okay so long as he claims to speak for God? Is that the religious right's position? Is that MSNBC's position? Funny these guys are all worried about Janet Jackson's nipple but when it comes to people who spread anti-Jewish world conspiracy theories in the name of God, they're totally mum.

PAT BUCHANAN: Bill Donahue, what do you think about "The Passion of the Christ"? And as a practical matter, even if Hollywood hated the film, it seems to me as an artistic work of art, a smashing triumph, a film of great controversy and interest, it ought to at least be nominated for best picture. It pulled in more money than any other picture all year.

WILLIAM DONAHUE, PRESIDENT OF THE CATHOLIC LEAGUE: I spoke to Mel a couple of weeks ago about this. And I don't think it really matters a whole lot to him. It certainly doesn't matter to me. We‘ve already won.

Who really cares what Hollywood thinks? All these hacks come out there. Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. It's not a secret, OK? And I'm not afraid to say it. That's why they hate this movie. It's about Jesus Christ, and it's about truth. It's about the messiah.

Hollywood likes anal sex. They like to see the public square without nativity scenes. I like families. I like children. They like abortions. I believe in traditional values and restraint. They believe in libertinism. We have nothing in common. But you know what? The culture war has been ongoing for a long time. Their side has lost.

You have got secular Jews. You have got embittered ex-Catholics, including a lot of ex-Catholic priests who hate the Catholic Church, wacko Protestants in the same group, and these people are in the margins. Frankly, Michael Moore represents a cult movie. Mel Gibson represents the mainstream of America.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:44 PM
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1. Bit of wishful thinking here.
They haven't won by any stretch of the imagination.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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bobbobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:45 PM
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2. The sudden mention of anal sex sorta makes me wonder....
it came right outta left field.
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alvis Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:48 PM
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3. Nah, probably came out of Church scandals...
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:55 PM
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8. I thought so, too -- is there a recent movie that

shows a simulation of anal sex? Or is Bill just out in right field again? I appreciate his defending the Church but he can be wacky in what he says, and be a friend we could do without at times.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:50 PM
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4. Wait, he said *hollywood* loves anal sex,
not Jews, and so he probably meant that the industry loves depicting anal sex...

Okay, it is still an idiotic thing to say and he is still a nut job. But he didn't say Jews love anal sex.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:19 PM
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10. code to religious right - gays and Jews and liberals rule Hollywood
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:20 PM
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16. Geez, that would be the crudest code ever, but I
can't say you aren't right.

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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:50 PM
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5. As a catholic this makes me want to puke
It almost incited me to violence.Something I rarely feel moved toward.I despise and loathe that a semi-illiterate knuckle dragging cretin would try to represent my religion.
I would love to cut off that opus dei arm of the church.My liberalism came from the catholic church.I remember a time where the term"the greater good" was drummed into me on a daily basis.I remember when the church and its members took "You are your brothers keeper" as a life long goal.
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RUDUing2 Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:53 PM
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7. same here..Opus Dei and the anti vatican II freaks in the church are not
the TRUE church...unfortunately because of Pope (in all but name) Cardinal Ratzenberg, they are the ones in power in the church right now....
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:28 PM
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12. I remember growing up seeing priests, nuns and rabbis walking
in Selma with the Civil Rights leaders of the protestant church, fighting for freedom for all. That was when the world was good, when people united for GOD's sake and our own. This man is satan.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:18 PM
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19. Amen
Donohue does NOT speak for the majority of Catholics. I find his comments to be repellent and despicable.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:52 PM
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6. OK, reading comprehension: Donahue said

"Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular"

Later, he said, "Hollywood likes (sic) anal sex."

You could extrapolate that he's saying the "secular Jews who control Hollywood" like anal sex but he didn't say that in so many words and certainly didn't say "Jews like anal sex." Context is important

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Most important, you should know that Donahue represents very conservative Catholics, he gives no info on his site about how many members the Catholic League has, and his organization is not a part of, nor does it receive support from, the Roman Catholic Church."

In other words, Donahue is representative of Catholics the way Falwell is representative of Protestants: barely, if at all.

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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:07 PM
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9. I think that is covered in the description of them...
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 05:07 PM by Solon
They were labeled "Radical Right" at the beginning of the article, wasn't that so? So no NEED to defend or to be defensive, they identify as Catholics but don't represent the Church, only themselves. Should the writer of the article just say that they "claim" to be Catholic, or are "alleged" Catholics, why the defensiveness? Should this article not have been written because it is about the Catholic League? Why not just critisize this Rightwingnut for what he said and not attack the writer for even writing about it?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:28 PM
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11. Thanks for the explanation on this
So he's sorta like a Father Charles Coughlin type.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:22 PM
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20. He's worse
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:54 PM
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15. Thanks for
pointing that out. However, being on national TV automatically endows anybody with a certain amount of credibility......
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:53 PM
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13. No wonder
I can't find my way to go back to the Catholic Church.......
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IHeart1993 Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:53 PM
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14. Return to McCarthism is what they want n/t
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brucefan Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:05 PM
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17. Lapsed Catholic here
I just remembered why.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:37 PM
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18. Doesn't matter too much to Mel
Because he's buying his own island to live on.



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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:35 PM
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21. Oh Goody - When will Hollywood weigh in on the Catholic Church.
I hope they are as heavy handed as this ass-munch.

I certainly would be - the fucking nerve that institution has, the biggest glass-house dwelling bunch of hipocrite assholes since the pharasees.

Fuck the pope and his lackeys.
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