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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:57 AM
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Does anyone have the info about testing kids for mental health probs?
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 11:00 AM by Stephanie

I haven't seen a thread for a while and I want to send it to some parents I know. It was that new Bush initiative to test kids in school without parental consent. Ritalin for everyone!

Thanks for your help!
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naturalselection Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:59 AM
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1. I found it here, have to scroll down a bit.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:00 AM
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2. That's it - The New Freedom Initiative
Thank you very much.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:50 AM
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4. New Freedom Inititative was announced two years ago by Bush...it went
under the radar and resurfaced just in time to be slipped into the Omnibus spending bill. Congressman Ron Paul (R) of Texas actually even attempted to get the language changed in the bill to require "parental consent" and that was rejected if you can believe it.

My understanding is that it remained in the bill including the language that allows it WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT.

My reccommendation is the following: Do the research and compile the info about this new little law....lets have it available for all parents and start sending emails to our friends and family telling them about it. The easier summary of it, the better. I also think we need to write to papers and elected Representatives and Senators. And we need to watch what is happening with it.

My hunch is that even right wing christian fundies aren't going to like there little Johnnie's being mentally probed by the federal government...My guess is that when and if they start to do this kind of activity, it will blow up in their faces. But the only way to ensure that is that we all stay involved and on top of it. Sadly, the ones that will be damaged by it are those that are too ignorant or poor and are in school districts that no one is paying attention to it.

All I know is that the day they start implementing this in my kids school is the day they go to private school or get home-schooled...sometimes I think that's the "real" plan of this administration - to dismantle public education... :eyes:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:57 AM
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6. According to these articles home-school or private school won't matter
They will get them anyway.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 01:08 PM
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8. What? Are you serious? I hadn't heard this yet....Wow, if you find out
more Stephanie, please let me know...this is even more serious than I thought....and I already thought it was pretty serious...

:scared:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:17 AM
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3. Thanks for the info - here are some links I am sending out




http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40384

ON CAPITOL HILL
Attempt to dump mental screening fails
Rep. Ron Paul hoped to stop mandatory federal program for children
Posted: September 10, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

An amendment offered by Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, in the House of Representatives yesterday that would have remove from an appropriations bill a new mandatory mental-health screening program for America's children failed by a vote of 95-315.

Paul's amendment would have removed the program from the Labor, HHS and Education Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year 2005. Ninety-four Republicans and one Democrat sided with Paul, while 118 Republicans, 196 Democrats and one Independent voted against the amendment.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the New Freedom Initiative recommends screening not only for children but eventually for every American. The initiative came out of the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which President Bush established in 2002.

Critics of the plan say it is a thinly veiled attempt by drug companies to provide a wider market for high-priced antidepressants and antipsychotic medication, and puts government in areas of Americans' lives where it does not belong.

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http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=830

Article & Essay: Bush Wants To Be Your Shrink


Now Bush wants to test every American for mental illness--including you! And guess who will create the tests?
By Jordanne Graham

Next month, President Bush plans to unveil a broad new mental health plan called the “New Freedom Initiative.” Never mind that it couldn’t have less to do with freedom; if you’re a thinking American, this initiative should scare the hell out of you.

The New Freedom Initiative proposes to screen every American, including you, for mental illness. To this end, the president established a New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, to study the nation’s mental health delivery service and make a report. It’s interesting to note that many on the staff appointed to the Commission have served on the advisory boards of some of the nation’s largest drug companies.

The commission reported that “despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed,” so it recommended comprehensive mental health screening for “consumers of all ages,” including preschool children because “each year, young children are expelled from preschools and childcare facilities for severely disruptive behaviors and emotional disorders.”

Children and school personnel will be the first to be screened. The panel concluded that schools are in “key positions” to screen the 52 million students and six million adults who work at the schools. By doing this, the commission expects to flush out another six million persons not now receiving treatment. But who will decide the screening criteria? Bush and his people? The drug companies? What are their qualifications?
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:55 AM
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5. Who was the lone Democrat who bothered to vote with Ron Paul?
I want to know...

More importantly, I want to know what the other 196 Democrats were thinking....this is outrageous....My kids will never be screened and never be required to take any kind of medication....that's what this is all about...giving the kids meds and keeping "files" on people starting at an early age...don't believe it? Just ask folks in the former Soviet Union or East Germany what the KGB and Stasi did....
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:20 PM
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7. I found the bill but I am looking for the specific language within it >
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 12:21 PM by Stephanie
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d108:7:./temp/~bdFNrk:@@@L&summ2=m&|/bss/d108query.html|

H.R.5006
Title: Making appropriations for the Departments of Labor,
Health and Human Services, and Education, and related agencies
for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2005, and for other
purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Regula, Ralph [OH-16] (introduced 9/7/2004)     
Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills: H.RES.754, S.2810
Latest Major Action: 9/10/2004 Received in the Senate.
House Reports: 108-636
Note: Labor/HHS/ED appropriations are Division F in the H.R.
4818 conference report. For further action, see H.R. 4818, the
Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2005.

9/9/2004 3:12pm:
    H.AMDT.739 Amendment (A024) offered by Mr. Paul.
(consideration: CR H6942-6944, H6953-6954; text: CR H6943)
An amendment numbered 3 printed in the Congressional Record to
prohibit use of funds in the bill to create or implement any
new or universal mental health screening program.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 05:53 PM
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9. Gene Taylor was the only Democrat to vote with Ron Paul
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 06:16 PM by Freddie Stubbs
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2004&rollnumber=438

He is a conservative Democrat from Mississippi.
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