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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:09 AM
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How much do you enjoy seeing Bush's world crumble?
The economy still sucks.
New jobs still don't exist.
The Iraq war is still a disaster.
Gas prices are still ridiculously high.
The dollar is the lowest it's been in a really long time.
The deficit is out of control.
OBL is still alive and free.
The administration is talking about taking from social security because Bush fucked up the economy.
Abortion and teen pregnancy are on the rise because Bush is living in a fantasy world over abstenince.
The country has never been more divided.
Applications to leave the country have increased since the election.
Bush is still the most hated man in the world.
Soldiers would rather commit suicide than fight for Bush's unjust war.

The media still won't report most of the above, but...
at least everyone knows whose fault it is this time. They no longer can blame Clinton. They no longer can blame Kerry. The no longer can blame the last administration.

Go ahead and run with your mandate Mr. Bush. It's all your fault this time.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:12 AM
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1. If he were the only one who had to pay for his mistakes, maybe
I would enjoy it.

Right now he's enjoying life, and others are losing their jobs, going without medical care, and being killed in Iraq.

So, no, I'm not enjoying anything yet.

I still have hope that he'll have a major comeuppance and this country will turn around.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:26 AM
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11. Totally agree
I mean it's pretty cold comfort that President Bush looks like an idiot when you consider the amount of suffering he's caused.

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Search Party Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:48 AM
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24. Your statement
would apply to anyone considered to be an addict.

A path of distruction and lies.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:29 AM
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14. You just nailed it
I have nothing to add to your wise observation.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:13 AM
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2. I enjoy nothing until he sits in the Hague. eom
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Democracy Died 2004 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:14 AM
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3. I look at all this and just
can not begin to fathom the stupidity of this country. Makes every day life surreal.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:16 AM
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4. It's not his world crumbling...it's ours
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 08:16 AM by Solly Mack
Shrub's wealth insulates him from the harm he is causing.

He's not hurting and unless he is brought to real justice...he never will hurt from all the damage he has caused and continues to cause.



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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:30 AM
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16. Agreed
I think the only way Bush "hurts" to any degree is that he knows the world despises him, which is why I would make an effort to attend any protest within a five hour drive from me.

He's too egocentric, in an OJ Simpson-like way, to feel guilt over the pain, suffering and death he's brought to hundreds of thousands of people, millions in the broad scheme of things.

But his ego won't allow him to dismiss all the banners and placards calling him a fool, a simian. That will continue to eat away at him until he dies.
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:17 AM
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5. The problem is
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 08:20 AM by MatrixEscape
it's OUR World, NOT his.

His world consists of living inside a nice, comfy, hermitically sealed bubble with all the amenities. Teflon coating included!

Here, in our World, we continue to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune! He slings his poo, we get the news. His actions are bringing nothing but chaos, suffering, and dismay.

I just wonder if that EVER enters into his mind? Maybe that's why he is on medication. He is probably one of the most despised people on the planet today.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:18 AM
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6. That's our world he's crumbling. He's in his Crawford bubble.
The ruin, I'm increasingly persuaded, is not accidental.

On the part of his neocon minders, the chaos creates new opporturnities to exploit. And so far as Bush is concerned, he's just hastening the "Great and Terrible Day of the Lord."
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Dez Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:23 AM
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9. What goes up, must come down, it's our turn to go down
and shrub is just the vehicle to deliver that fact. America has seen her best days, and now she's on her way down, thanks to the lack of democracy that the corporations have elimenated, because there is Nothing democratic about a corporation, it's sociopathic, at best.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:20 AM
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7. Disaster and failure bothers us, but not Bush and his true believers.
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 08:21 AM by Inland
The Bush backers always knew that Bush was an objective failure, and they chose religion, tax cuts and hope that they and their communities would be able to swim against the tide. More than just this shit is going to have to hit the fan before they change, and that's why we shouldn't have any hope for the immediate future.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:22 AM
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8. bring it on!
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Debbi801 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:24 AM
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10. I agree with the other posts...
He won't suffer with any of this, he's in his own little protected world. It is only the rest of us that have to pay for his mistakes.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:29 AM
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15. I disagree...
and refuse to lose hope. He hasn't even started his second administration yet. The world is fucked up and this man is a total disaster. I refuse to believe that the media and the good thinking Americans won't wake up and start understanding the truth.

He will go down as the worst President in American history and that's enough for me. I would love to see an impeachment or trial before it's all over, but I don't necessarily need it. Again, Bush and his supporters looking like idiots is enough for me.
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Chef Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:28 AM
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12. Crumble? Where?
You seeing it crumble, and the whole world perceiving it to crumble are two different things. Things must get much, much worse before it cannot be denied by all but the most delusional. Then, and only then, will the world remove him from office. If it is as bad as we think, it isn't bad enough for populous do start forming mobs in front of the White House.
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recovering democrat Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:29 AM
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13. Taking responsibility is hard work
I remember something I read about the election that reminded us that Bush has never had to take responsibility for anything in his life - his business failings, Texas, and on and on, he has moved on and others have had to pick up the pieces of his failings.

As sad as I am now (presuming the theft of the election will not be undone this time either) I am encouraged to believe that Bush will finally have to take responsibility for his failures. The days of blaming Clinton are over; his stated mandate leaves it all in his hands. With a Republican Congress in place, he can't even blame Congress. It is now Bush's war, Bush's economy, Bush's deficit and Bush's foreign (non) policy. He can't hide and slide for four years. I feel no joy in this list as these failures do hurt citizens who do not deserve to take the pain of Bush's screw-ups. But as much as he talks about "hard work", watching him try to avoid responsibility will be a just reward for his election.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:41 AM
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20. Agree...
I certainly am not happy with this list, but I do take some comfort knowing it's all Bush's fault.

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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:30 AM
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17. Vengeance belongs to God, or so I've been told

But God hears when we cry out for justice. So, even though I haven't been much of a praying person for about 15 years, for about a month now, I have made sure to pray very solemnly and with a full heart for justice for the innocent and for this country whenever I am driving in my car. I also ask for God to make my heart right.

I've also been told that we all must reap what we sow. That's a concept from almost every philosophy and religion. Bush and all the members of his administration, as well as the heads of the conglomerate corporations and fundie church leaders they are in cahoots with -- have sown corruption, greed, carelessness, thoughtlessness, strife, and judgment. That is what they will receive when the harvest comes in. (sound of whip cracking)

Anyway, I maintain the faith that he will get what is coming to him in due measure. Would be satisfying if it occurs soon, and we all get to watch it unfold...
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:31 AM
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18. No. No. No. You've got it all wrong, wrong, wrong!
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 08:35 AM by TaleWgnDg
After all, George Walker Bush is a man of God. God told him to run for president. His followers voted for George Walker Bush because they, too, believe that God wants him as president. God would be angry had they not voted for George Walker Bush.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .How can you be AGAINST this?




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"In his press conference the other night,
President Bush said freedom is a gift from
the Almighty, and we have been called by
God to use our military power to spread
freedom throughout the world. Then he
called that Sadr guy in Iraq a religious
nutcase." G.W. Bush, as quoted by
Jay Leno
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:45 AM
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21. Not my God...
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:13 AM
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28. no God, including the Christian God, espouses the hate and
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 09:14 AM by TaleWgnDg
discontent that these rightwingnuts rant! It's merely a blind irrational faction that are allowing themselves to be used as fodder for others deceitful empowerment and monied endeavors.

Since when was Jesus for that? Never! Ironic, too, is that they are spewing similar hate as is Osama and his followers as well as the so-called "terrorist" et al idiots in Iraq.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:37 AM
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19. No comfort here yet ...
because both Bush and his supporters live in a non-fact based world. I don't really believe he even sees his world as crumbling. Although he is normally a pathological liar, when he says that he doesn't believe he has made any mistakes, I believe him -- that that is what he believes.

Also the milions of morons who voted for him cannot yet be convinced by facts that he is a disaster. Only when their jobs disappear, their money becomes worthless and the lives of their young men and women are pointlessly wasted in war -- only when it happens to them personally rather than in the newspaper -- might they begin to wake up.
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terryweems Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:46 AM
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22. bush? crumble?
heck I say "VOTE EM' ALL OUT"
I feel there has to be some sort of govt reform, they all make too much money and have too many benefits at retirement, give then the same retirement and health care options as the average american gets and we will see some serious reform, and that goes for insurance companies also. politicians , lawyers and insurance agents all need to be knocked down to knee level, their all crooks.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:46 AM
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23. No longer blame Clinton. DreamOn.org.
In the end, it will always be Clinton's fault.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:49 AM
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25. Well at least we can hope...
Yes, they'll try to blame Clinton, but...

Can't we at least hope that the rest of America will wake up and see what's going on. I take no pleasure in all of his failings, but I can still believe that people are just ignorant and not blind.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:50 AM
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26. Sorry, I cannot take any joy in such matters
Simply because those events do not touch Bush, they don't effect him in anyway. Instead, they bring death and ruin to countless thousands of innocents both at home and abroad.

Indeed, instead of bringing harm to Bush, they bring him power, profit and joy. Power through misused military might, money through crony capitalism, and joy simply because I think that the man is a sick, sadistic fuck who takes joy in other peoples' pain. Think I'm overstating that last point? Then I say to you go back and watch Bush's speechs. Notice how when he speaks on matters of human caring and compassion, he stumbles, stutters, misspeaks and looks nervous. Yet when he speaks of war and death, his speech is clear and unstilted, and there is a gleam in his eye that is nothing else but pure joy. He likes to see people suffering, he likes death and destruction, just so long as it isn't his own. This is a man who is entirely lacking in compassion.

So no, I take no joy in this current state of affairs. Rather quite the opposite, I feel rage, sadness and dispair at what this sick motherfucker has wrought, and will do what I can to undo Bush's evil works. And the only time I will take joy is when I see that evil fuck leave office, preferably in chains.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:54 AM
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27. You're exactly right...
"And the only time I will take joy is when I see that evil fuck leave office, preferably in chains."

I apologize, your statement above is exactly what I was referring to when I asked the question.

I hope no one person takes joy in anything on that list.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:25 AM
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30. I understood what you were saying friend
But the Bushbots in this country will never, ever blame their boy for anything that goes wrong. Part of it is from dumb loyalty, the other part is that the MSM in this country either glosses over these matters, doesn't report them, or if they do report them, don't connect the dots between the problem and Bush. Thus, most people are left in the dark, and those of us who do know what's going on are regarded by most of the public in this country as baying at the moon when we bring such matters up.

The disconnect in this country is truly disturbing, and quite frankly the only solution that I can think of to correct it is to keep getting the word out as much as we can, speaking truth to power. We really need a nationwide media outlet that isn't beholden to the corporate/government interests in this country, but that simply doesn't look like it is going to happen. It is a sad statement that one has to go to foreign news outlets to find out what is going on in one's country.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:24 AM
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29. Had dinner with the blind last night
They still think that everything is hunky dorey in Bushland. When the talk came to how well everything is going in Iraq and how the media only tells of the bad things, I lost it. I read them the riot act and they just looked at me cluelessly like I was the stupid one in the group. Then they had another round of kool-aid.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:34 PM
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31. but that's just the way he like it. for bush it's all rosy
and peachy keen
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:37 PM
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32. He seems not only intact but stronger.
His stride is more confident, his speaking voice more commanding, his base still faithful...I don't see no crumblin'.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:58 PM
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33. you know - every pres i have ever known AGED visibly in office
except bush.
he doesn't appear to age, perhaps because he truly doesn't worry about his decisions. he is absolutely convinced that he is infallible.

frightening. considering how horrifically he has f**ked up in the past 4 years.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:07 PM
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36. Oh, he's aged but he's also become more forceful
over the years. I've been wondering and asking what he could've meant during a Time interview when he said (paraphrasing wildly) his next four years would be 'different because he wouldn't have to run again'. I get it now, he can do whatever the hell he wants.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:59 PM
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34. And this is enjoyable because.......
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:07 PM
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37. Honey, it ain't. But it is what it is.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:02 PM
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35. I might, if it weren't OUR world that he is ruining
And I will have to live with it far longer than he.
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