We Old Hippies May Have to Re-Unite for the Sake of our

[MaryH]

country. We fought against one war and finally won. We can sure fight against another one. I'm not that old! And I'm a lot smarter than I used to be.

And I still like pot! And Tie Dye. And Janis Joplin. And Jethro Tull.

Let's bring back Black Power and Gray Power and Power to the People. The Underground is Back! Wouldn't that be a blast? Now that we are all just about old enough to retire. We could use our time really well.

[htuttle]

1. Let's send The Bus around to pick everybody up!

I'd sure rather be On The Bus than Off The Bus.

:hippie:

[MaryH]

That's a good idea.

We can all meet in San Francisco. Just wear flowers in our hair.

[jdj]

24. I'd rather see this generation stand up for itself like y'all did and

refuse to be sent off to the slaughter.

But they probably won't.

Thanks to the boomers for one of the only cultural movements this country has ever had.

[timtom]

39. FLOWERS???!!!

I thought Scott McKenzie was saying wear FLOUR in you hair! No wonder I got so many weird stares in the Golden Gate Panhandle in November of 1966!

[MaryH]

40. No, flowers. Have you ever noticed that no one looks bad

in flowers?

I still love the flowers.

[China_cat]

60. What hair?

[MaryH]

136. OK OK

But you could still wear a wreath of flowers.

[alfredo]

80. What if you don't have hair anymore.

Duct Tape?

[MaryH]

137. Duct tape is good - it comes in colors now!

[alfredo]

140. I know, I wear the black tape when I go to coffee houses. Makes me

look hip.

[SpiralHawk]

2. you're either on the bus, or off the bus

pufforama lama ding dong

[MaryH]

3. Don't forget to bring the bong.

[LiberalAndProud]

33. Waterpipe! (don't say that b-word!)

[ooglymoogly]

36. old hippies never die

they just get stoned

[Jackpine Radical]

127. Remember the Bellamy Bros? "Like the smoke from that torpedo..."

I used to think they were singing my song.

Bellamy Brothers
Old Hippie

He turned thirty-five last Sunday
In his hair he found some gray
But he still ain't changed his lifestyle
He likes it better the old way
So he grows a little garden in the back yard by the fence
He's consuming what he's growing nowadays in self defense
He get's out there in the twilight zone
Sometimes when it just don't make no sense

He gets off on country music
Cause disco left him cold
He's got young friends into new wave
But he's just too friggin' old
And he dreams at night of Woodstock and the day John Lennon died
How the music made him happy and the silence made him cry
Yeah he thinks of John sometimes
And he has to wonder why

Chorus:
He's an old hippie and he don't know what to do
Should he hang on to the old
Should he grab on to the new
He's an old hippie...his new life is just a bust
He ain't trying to change nobody
He's just trying real hard to adjust

He was sure back in the sixties that everyone was hip
Then they sent him off to Vietnam on his senior trip
And they forced him to become a man while he was still a boy
And in each wave of tragedy he waited for the joy
Now this world may change around him
But he just can't change no more

Chorus

Well, he stays away a lot now from the parties and the clubs
And he's thinking while he's joggin' 'round
Sure is glad he quit the hard drugs
Cause him and his kind get more endangered everyday
And pretty soon the species will just up and fade away
Like the smoke from that torpedo...just up and fade away

Come pick me up when the bus comes through.

[MaryH]

130. Oh, yea!

I still love that song.

[ooglymoogly]

5. i think we are a lot of the people fighting today

we've been there

[papau]

17. last time it was "fight authority" - and GOP won with "strong leader" to

stop us.

last time we almost all said no to the "Japanese red army" concept of hurting specific persons in authority -and this time I do not want us to change that decision.

but how is a "stop to the rich from winning the war on the poor/middle class" accomplished - without civil war/deaths - if the media continues knee jerk support for all things GOP (it matters not if the media does this because the protect the investing class GOP have a "coherent philosophy and objectives" - or because they are mediawhores)? The middle class believe the lies that they are not hurt - and protect the rich is a "value" they support as they fight for God in politics - if the media does not educate them.

:-(

[AndyTiedye]

106. Not Exactly

> last time it was "fight authority" - and GOP won with "strong leader" to stop us.

Last time they won by killing OUR leaders.

> but how is a "stop to the rich from winning the war on the poor/middle class" accomplished

The first step is to identify who is at war with you.
This isn't simply class warfare.
You must not assume that "the rich" are out to get you.
Where did all those big donations to the Democrats and our 527s
come from?

Our adversaries are not rich capitalists -- it's not capitialism when
they buy the government. They have more in common with the kleptocracy in the former Soviet Union.
Walmart is not a capitalist enterprise -- they demand and get
government subsidies which they use to undercut the competition.
They direct their employees to ask for public assistance if they
need medical care.
They treat employees and suppliers like dirt, and are rapidly
becoming the store everybody loves to hate.
Real capitalists compete with the Walmarts by being a place where people
want to shop, and a place where people want to work. They take
care of their employees, and provide them with proper benefits
such as health care. Well-treated employees provide
better service, thus developing a good relationship with customers
and suppliers.
Real capitalists have more in common with us, and some actually
realize this.

Companies that already offer health care to their workers
should be natural allies in our efforts to get the rest of the
workforce covered. That is one example.

> the media continues knee jerk support for all things GOP

They will. The GOP FCC is very very very nice to them.

> it matters not if the media does this because the protect the
> investing class GOP

The media doesn't give a DAMN about the investing class.
They are doing this for themselves.

This member of the investing class considers the GOP a horrible investment.

> have a "coherent philosophy and objectives"

They've got one all right. "MUST HAVE MORE POWER!" :puke:

> The middle class believe the lies that they are not hurt

I think they are keeping the middle class too scared to notice the hurt.

> and protect the rich is a "value" they support

You have to protect at least their dream of becoming rich.

> as they fight for God in politics -

Funny how "God" seems to be silent about those parts of the
Bible that are at odds with Republican talking points :grr:.

> if the media does not educate them.

The media works for THEM.

[papau]

110. I agree with just about every addition you made to my post - but

where does that leave us.

What is the target - and how do we take it out?

[MaryH]

118. There is no "target"

You don't "take it out." You just overwhelm the system. And do so non-violently. The non-violent part is important.

[ruthg]

19. There was a lot of grey hair seen...

at the anti- war marches I went to before the Iraq invasion. I even brought a -long my guitar to one and ended up leading the crowd in songs like "aint gonna study war no more". It was nostalgic. I think there is a danger in getting caught up in the nostalgia of it all though and it behooves ( I love that word) us all to remember that these are different times and may require different methods of protest....who knows?

Ruth, who thinks we should remember to move our walkers out of the way so our young folks have more room to join us too!!!

[MaryH]

25. I want everybody to come!

Old people, young people, everyone.

We didn't have to get violent the last time. There were instances but for the most part we didn't hurt people. Mostly we got hurt.

But we could do it again. It was just a case of the population coming together with one big, important idea. Power to the People! All of the People!

[ooglymoogly]

35. yes its a very different battle

but its still a battle that we all must fight. a different battle requires different tactics new thinking and that is what i thank the du for. it is clear to me there are sound thinkers on the du and it is by this i think we can win. ideas are flashing around like lightning, links are exchanged and everybody gets on board. they either get debunked or jotted down in the collective mind of the rest of us to finally accumulate into a strategy.

[artemis]

65. i feel the same way

wise words...

I have many ideas I plan to post as soon as I can.

Thanks for sharing your observations... you inspired me.

[artemis]

70. true

yes. So many people involved are older. it is shifting though. We cannot let the labels of our age, and any other label create division between us. We must unite and defend the future for ALL of us. So much is at stake, whther the emdia adn those in power want to admit it or not. The web of wilfe is unraveling due to human activity, and we are large mammals, showing signs of degeneration already. Our nations is contributing to the destruction of the harmony of the global systems such as the climate, the atmosphere, the water, biodiversity, etc. What are we doing? Is is worth it? I know my life is worth more than just existing, watching all this unfold. I know I choose to be here, to engage in this struggle against life. I just cant seem to remember what it is I am supposed to do to escape the bars that keep me poor, and struggling financially in this land of opportunity. Help! Where is my mentor! I am ready! Next year is the year of the Phoenix, so get ready to dig deep and transform.

[DenverDem]

11. I never got off the bus.

You have a great idea. Hippies of the world unite to smash the state.

[lasttrip]

43. the bus came by and i got on and thats how it all began.

climb aboard.

:hippie:

ed:sp

[Ernesto]

61. Just make sure that the driver doesn't work for

ashcroft!

[XOKCowboy]

135. I've got Steppenwolf's Monster

on CD. Unless someone has an 8-Track Player.

[Webster Green]

4. Count me in!

Lets roll!

[nono]

6. I am in

Will trt to keep up with the younger croud.

[MaryH]

7. I'm afraid the younger crowd might be Republican.

But how many million baby boomers are there? We can't all be wrong.

[GreatAuntK]

8. Ticket to ride

K.

[MaryH]

10. Hey - Eli's Comin!

If he's there I will be, too.

[RebelOne]

76. You better hide your heart, girl.

[DenverDem]

13. The younger crowd is just ignorant and mind controlled.

They need to be "re-educated".

[MaryH]

15. You have to have a sense of humor to get in.

Have you noticed that the younger crowd just doesn't know how to laugh. I guess it takes a joint and joke to teach you how to laugh until you think you are going to die.

[DenverDem]

22. You have a good definition of "re-education" there.

Hey, kids, step away from the warfare video game!!

[hobbit709]

90. Abbie Hoffman said

the reason that the authorities hate pot is that it makes you see the absurdity of the system and laugh at it.

[artemis]

66. yes!

I agree totally!
The younger people have not experienced life as the older generations have. They were not educated about history. They did not go through the amazing period of awakening that occurred during the 1960's. They NEED the older people to share their perspective in ways they can relate to. I think the more documentaries about war, and vets, and the peace movement the better.

[yorkiemommie1]

101. yes

a lot of them have been trained by their born again parents.

there's not that questioning of authority so many of us had.

[NCN007]

124. in case you forgot

young people tend to rebel against their parents. In my experience the relative conservatism and practical emphasis of the younger generation is rebeling against what your generation stood for, although we arent quite as vocal as you were.

[ruthg]

21. not the ones I know..

and I know quite a few..

[peacetalksforall]

27. Every young person I know is anti-Republican. I'm fortunate. There is

hope. I notice that all the Libertarians I've met are in their 30's, 40's, and very early 50's.

[LiberalAndProud]

34. Not so. They voted. They voted in large numbers. Majority voted for Kerry.

http://www.alternet.org/wiretap/20401/

According to CIRCLE, youth turnout was especially high – often as high as 64 percent – in some battleground states. In addition, young voters favored Kerry by a 10 percent margin over George Bush nationally, while in many key states it was even higher. In Pennsylvania, for instance, 32 percent more youth voted for John Kerry than did for Bush.

[MaryH]

41. Maybe our old life style would appeal to the youth of today, too.

It was really good for us. They need a time for them. A time where everyone loved everyone. It was against the rules not to.

[AndyTiedye]

134. It Does! They're Doing It! Ravers are the New Hippies

> Maybe our old life style would appeal to the youth of today, too.

It does!

> It was really good for us. They need a time for them. A time where
> everyone loved everyone. It was against the rules not to.

That torch has been picked up by the ravers, with guiding principles
of Peace, Love, Unity and Respect, i.e. PLUR.

What better to take on War, Hatred, Division and Disrespect, which are the
guiding priniciples of Bushler and his supporters?

The ravers and the hippies need to work together on this.
In the Bay Area, this already happens, because so many of
us old hippies crashed the rave scene early on and never left.

And they put on the most kick-ass parties!

[AndyTiedye]

107. Republican? Not the Younger Crowd I Know!

There is hope in the younger generation, and it lies with the RAVERS.
Ravers are the new hippies.

A lot of us old hippies have become ravers.
Dancing all weekend in the woods? What's not to like?

RIDE THE MUSIC

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

9. Who says we're not?

Newton County Friends for Peace demonstrated in 2003, and we are ready to do so again. And we still wear tie dye.

[MaryH]

12. That's Rightous!

We just all need to find each other.

[seemslikeadream]

14. Power to the People!

[ElectroPrincess]

139. Please correct me if I'm wrong ...

but those two doggies look like they are of the "Old English Sheepdogs" AKC breed?

Am I right or wrong?

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Those were the days. Weren't they?

I have turned my 11 year old son onto tie dye, Janis Joplin, Woodstock, and the such. I LOVED those days where everyone loved everyone. People helping people. Everyone was your friend unless they were an adult. ;) Endless joints. :smoke: and "other recreational "stuff"...;) Life was so much fun. Bell bottom blue jeans. Gauze baby doll hippie tunic shirts. Macrame. Planting gardens and living off the land. Huge hippie parties where you blasted your rock and roll, smoked, danced and just had nothing but FUN. *sigh* I miss those days. Can you tell? :hippie:

I'm ready for a hippie renewal! :bounce:

[MaryH]

18. Oh, yea! Those were the days, my friend.

I loved it, too. Posters and black lights. And remember the hippie stores where you could buy all the neat stuff - if you could find any money. Bongs and papers and clothes made in India.

And houses decorated in colors and comfortable places to crash.

I had more fun then, did more creative things, thought more creatively than I ever have in my life.

I still live that way. But everyone else left me - went to IBM or became president of a bank. Sad.

[GreatAuntK]

20. Keggers

up in the canyons. Skinny-dipping. Air guitars. Earth shoes. Costume parties. Backpacking. Wolfman Jack.

[MaryH]

23. the canyons?

Where are you? We did that, too. In Salt Lake City. It was so beautiful there.

[GreatAuntK]

26. Mary, do I know you?

SLC 1972-80, ticket monitor at The Bird under Weatherbee & Hoop. SLC had changed, last I was back 7 years ago, they built urban sprawl right up the foothills. The 70's were the most colorful and fun years of my life, and I can close my eyes and almost feel the air up there.

[MaryH]

28. I had to leave SLC in 1970.

I went to UofU. We probably missed each other. I lived in an old house just down from the campus.

And wasn't that a great time. I just had so much fun. My boyfriend then was the biggest dope dealer in SLC. I thought he was just wonderful! I was an idiot, of course. He could have gotten us life in prison. Those were different times.

[spanone]

29. Put me in Coach. We're all Bozos on this bus.

[MaryH]

30. Yea, but Bozo is Good!

[peacetalksforall]

31. The best was the heart soaring in hope

even in the cold reality.

[GreatAuntK]

32. My heart soared in hope

when Nixon waved goodbye. I'm not without hope today, and I truly believe the neo-cons will undo themselves with extremity.

But back then I didn't fear so much, the unexpected things that you can't control, that can happen in life to people you love. "Live free, die young, and make a good looking corpse" never appealed to me, but I did feel stronger then. I can't smoke any more, hardly ever drink, but I can afford to pay my mortgage, at least for now. I want to grow very old with smiley wrinkles.

[Eloriel]

128. That's what I remember -- and miss -- the most

The absolutely unending, irrepressible hope and optimism. We could do anything. We could conquer all. We could remake the world. AND have a helluva lot of fun doing it.

The other thing: the music. The music ALONE made our generation and era absolutely over the top supremo.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

37. your willing student!

I was born in 1969 and was almost the youngest person to attend Woodstock. Almost, cause Mom had second thoughts about taking a baby to a concert. I've never forgiven her! (oh, hi Ma:o ).

I've always felt I was born 20 years too late - we need your wisdom and experiences to help us take back our country!

[ooglymoogly]

38. we shall become as locust

and become swords in the sides of crooked politics

[MaryH]

42. It was really a world-wide thing -

Maybe we could do it again. Everyone is so tired of violence and fear and hatred.

[Zomby Woof]

44. you did such a wonderful job the first time

Bad acid, junkies, brain-dead potheads, and yuppies. You had your chance in the 80's, but by then had cashed it in and sold out- done in by your own excesses.

Most of you so-called hippies voted for Reagan and are partially responsible for this current mess.

The rest of you need to ditch the tie-dye and Janis Joplin. She was heroin withdrawal pain set to music. Plus, her voice cried for lozenges. Have some soap too. Flower Power sucks.

[MaryH]

45. Oh, don't be silly

We didn't vote.

It was the protests that did the whole thing.

And we weren't junkies - pot heads sometimes - maybe. No one had the money to be a junkie. We barely had the money to buy our Boone's Farm.

[Name removed]

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[MaryH]

47. Easy now. Stay in the Moment.

It's peaceful here. Some people will never understand - and that's OK for them. Just hand them a flower - put it down the barrel of their gun. It worked then and it will work now.

[ima_sinnic]

48. yes, there will always be uptight a-holes

... somehow I've outgrown "mrs. nice guy" and have become more confrontational. it feels good to tell people off when they deserve it.

[MaryH]

51. I know - it's hard

but we have to try. Being as nasty as they are is not a good answer.
I am so tired of nasty people with stupid answers to important questions.

Lets all just get stoned. And then talk about it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

74. You tell 'em ima!

:hi:

I'd kill myself before I ever voted for a repuke! Never have, never will!

[ima_sinnic]

93. hi in-cog!

I saw your wonderful memories of hippie days up above--*sigh*--yes, those were the days, when we ran the place. :hippie:

[peacetalksforall]

52. There were many opportunists and wannabe joiners.

And some opportunists and peripherals could, indeed, have voted for Reagan.

Not everyone used the drugs.

[MaryH]

53. I don't care who voted for Reagan. I was worried about Nixon

and his bunch of crooks. But not that worried. I think I tended not to worry all that much.

[Gemini Cat]

62. I worried.

After all, there was a war going on.
People getting killed and all that.

[flying_monkeys]

55. Actually, the Moral Majority reared its head around then

The Far Right began mobilizing and *they* voted for Ray-gun, not the hippies. Some of us were backing Anderson that year :)

[Piperay]

71. I lived through that period

and agree, it wasn't so great. :-(

[proud2BlibKansan]

82. You seem to enjoy spoiling threads

[quaker bill]

100. The war ended, Nixon resigned, Civil rights and voting rights

were enacted.

No, I didn't vote for Reagan. I protested Pershing and Trident missles and worked on Central America issues on the Peace and Justice side. I helped fund and supply a war orphanage in Nicaragua.

I even helped set up the Green Party locally.

Were you out of high school then? You seem a little new to this stuff.

[MaryH]

115. Good for You!

What great things to do.

Time has changed but there are still awful problems. Like the AIDS babies in Africa and the starving people in Dafu.

Never really changes all that much, does it.

[starroute]

123. I don't personally know anyone from the 60's who sold out

Many of them had to cut their hair and get straight jobs, but their hearts are still true and they never voted for Reagan.

Remember that the real 60's people were never more than a minority of a minority. There was a larger group of weekend hippies and hippie wannabes who wore the bellbottoms and love beads (not to mention guys who just went to the concerts because they'd heard that hippie chicks were easy lays) but didn't really get the message. There was a still larger number of people our age who never even pretended to understand -- frat boys and standard-issue Middle Americans. And then there were all the anti-hippies -- the Young Republicans and Jesus freaks who couldn't handle the promise of freedom and are still bedeviling us from the right.

Also, you can't lump all the Baby Boomers together. The generation that really loved Reagan was the late Boomers, people born after 1955 who were too young to have particupated in the 60's. The ones born after mom and dad moved to the suburbs and started getting status-conscious. But they're not us and we didn't certainly didn't grow up to be them.

[indigobusiness]

125. Zomby, you Hippie-bashers forget we kept the Nazis at bay.

Which the following generations can't hold a candle to. You let us down.

There was beauty in the Hippie era that following generations will never know. Absurd flailing judgments aside, everyone knows it wasn't perfect, but nothing is.

[rman]

141. you fell for RW spin

peace rocks

[GreenPartyVoter]

49. I'm only 33, but count me in!

[MaryH]

50. OK - you are "in"

I wish we could get all of the younger people.

[jbm]

56. I want in!

I checked out your profile cause I loved what you were saying, and I was thrilled to see we're in the same state. :toast:

I still have a shoebox filled with those fake pewter peace sign necklaces in case anybody needs to borrow one!

[Sparkly]

99. That's okay -- I don't think the old maxim applies anymore

You know, "Never trust anybody over 30." :hi:

[Liberal_Andy]

54. I'm hip like a zip, let's take a trip!

(I'm in!)

[Keirsey]

57. The Weather Underground

On the distaff side of the laid-back hippie movement.

The DVD is available at www.netflix.com, a Dem supporter.

Reviews at rottentomatoes:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/weather_underground/

What the movie makes clear (to upturn the Bob Dylan lyric from which the Weather Underground drew their name) is that in 2003 it’s abundantly useful to have a few weathermen (and women) to learn which way the wind blows.

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gbase/Calendar/Film?Film=oid%3A178743

[Sugarbleus]

86. Hmmm, Hmmm I didn't want to bring that up....

But........

[Stinky The Clown]

58. I had to smile at this, the whole notion is kinda like

slicking back what remains of one's hair into a ducktail, sucking in one's ever expanding paunch, rolling up the cuffs on one's jeans and going to a 50's party!

But I agree with your point.

[boi1946]

59. I saw the marchers in New York against the RNC

and wanted so much to be there---gray hair, arthritic knees, and all!
The spirit of protest has never left me. And we may need to take to the streets because we cannot trust the politicians or the media to speak for us.
We need to take the people of the Ukraine as an example--they knew somrthing was wrong, and made their voices heard!

[artemis]

69. new times

I also believe that we must get creative in our ways of resisting, because, they are violent, and have started using tactics against protestors that are in humane, here in the US now. I always go to the protests, and I am starting to wonder if it is the best way to use my body, and mind , and spirit to resist. December 13th is the buy and do nothign day! I love this idea, we are safe, in our own homes, not buying anythign, not driving, trying to keep the lights off, adn use no power. If millions of people did this even 1 time... it would ahev an impact. Our dollars count. They depend on our addiction to consumerism based on limited, controlled resources, that only get 5 % of the population rich. Our purchases fund their wars, and feed their bank accounts. Our lifestyles. Our ignorance. It is time for change.

[MaryH]

117. EXACTLY - and those old arthritic knees will be perfect

[karlrschneider]

73. Really...I'm wondering if I need to find some penny loafers and a

pink & black shirt (before pink was...well, you know...) :evilgrin:

[WillyT]

63. Count Me In !!!

:smoke::hippie::smoke:

:hi:

[OnionPatch]

64. I always regretted that I missed the chance

to be a hippy. I was just a few years too young. My older sister was a bona fide hippy and I always admired her because of the things they stood for. I've always been a hippy at heart, and so you can count me in.

[artemis]

67. so true

I am ready! How do I get out of the rat race to free up my time so I can work full time to help shift the paradigm.

[manic expression]

68. I'll represent my generation

Not too many liberals at my age, but we've been grown up in a very hostile environment so we know how to take a stand and fight for what's right. Hope you'll let me on "the bus" (even though I'm not sure what it entails).

[MaryH]

120. All it entails is you being you.

[DeepGreen]

72. Sounds GREAT MaryH !!!

:bounce:

[dreadneck]

75. 1969 flashback

I can't listen to that old time rock n roll without copping a buzz. Must be some loose molecules in my brain.
Funny how the government created LSD, and now puts people in prison for life for selling sugar cubes with a few molecules of acid in them.
Freakin' pigs.
Stop, children, what's that sound? Everybody look what's goin down...

[Gyre]

77. Good start, but you forget your immediate successors in

the battle in the streets over Vietnam; THE FREAKS!!! Berzerkers who went to anti-Nixon/war rallys w/ football helmets and wet bandanas. I'm thinking that sticking flowers in M16 barrels isn't going to win the day this time, IF it did then.

Gyre

[kohodog]

91. All we are saying is

Give peace a chance.

(and don't take the brown acid)

[MaryH]

138. HOW ABOUT "SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY!"

This is not the same fight. And we are smarter now.

[indigobusiness]

78. Damn hippies

Wait...that's ZombyWoof's line.

(He's just jealous...and clueless.)

[proud2BlibKansan]

79. I am ready

Hippie ideals are pretty appropriate about now.

[shesemsmom]

81. I'm in

I was 17 when Vietnam ended. But I remember. I'm pack and ready. START THE REVOLUTION!!!:hippie: Waiting on the multi colored micro bus!!

[Jim__]

83. Well, I'm all up for a hippie reunion.

But, I can't afford to retire yet. One thing I remember though, if you didn't have money or food, somebody was always willing to share with you; and they'd just ask that you share when you were able.

Yea, I could stand having some of that spirit back.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

145. Hippie Reunion

We'll need to share with each other because we won't be getting our Social Security checks

[bush_is_wacko]

84. You're right...

My parents were of that generation, they raised 2 children that share their liberal veiws and have added some, I am raising even more liberal children. With three generations of people willing to do what our hippie generation did, we should be able to accomplish this thing a lot faster! I have already said that if I found a group that was willing to work towards a peaceful protest in Washington i'd take the kids out of school and pack up the car. We're broke as hell, but we would manage somehow. I've got a beat up 7 passenger minivan and only 4 people to put in it,I think I could convince my brother to take a few more in his van,anyone want to hitch a ride?

;)

[bush_is_wacko]

87. I wasn't old enought to be a hippie

I had my fun w/ "alternatvie medicine" though anyway. Unfortunately, I don't think my 40 yearold body can take any more, and I can't promote it to my kids either. I hope that doesn't leave me behind!

[AndyTiedye]

108. Wheel Comes Round

> I had my fun w/ "alternatvie medicine" though anyway. Unfortunately, I
> don't think my 40 yearold body can take any more

Ravers are the new hippies, and they have extended the art of the
psychedelic in ways we never could in the old days.
And the ravers understand the power of dancing.

I have found that a good dose of psytrance music gets me there.
All I have to do is dance to it. Get every part of my body moving.
Continue as long as possible, or until they shut the music down.
The visuals provided at raves help too. This actually works well
enough to render actual psychedelic substances superfluous for me.
It is also really good exercise.
Try it.

You can promote THAT to your kids.

[bush_is_wacko]

122. Yes I can!

You can promote THAT to your kids.
************************************

And do!

[MaryH]

129. Nah! You can just sit with the Straight Guys

[Sugarbleus]

85. Count me in Mary!!

Loved Jethro Tull too... LOL

Odd, I was thinking much the same thing a few days ago. My main concern is that these "new" dem leaders may not be on our side. I'm ready to write letters, march (scoot--lol), chant, raise my voice, join with others to "organize". I'm not working full time outside of the house either...so I have time on my hands. Plus, being older, I'm not afraid to speak my mind. Who cares what others think of that? They can call me a sack full of Mofo's, it doesn't matter. The GOAL matters..........for ALL.

[against all enemies]

88. "Military madness, is killing my country, so much sadness, inside of me"

[hobbit709]

89. I Keep saying

That there's nothing wrong with this country that about 500 million hits of good acid wouldn't cure.

[Warren DeMontague]

92. 35 Yr. Old Longhaired Deadhead here

Just tell me where to sign.

[orpupilofnature57]

94. all my baby sitters were hippies,never sent me astray,I'll do what i can

[kohodog]

95. Teach your children well

And we'll be ok.

The Man has had too many 60's and 70's radicals buy into their bs, especially when it comes to having their kids be indoctrinated into the system. And it's only tightening up. Our kids will have to help us fight, so teach 'em well.

By that i mean to teach them that peace and justice is more important than winning a nintnndo game (or soccer or baseball). That people matter than most and the World is full of hurting people. Our time is moving past us and while we made inroads, some of us (myself included) slept on our watch. Now we need to wake up and become active and teach.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

146. Another great song from the 60's

Feel Like I'm Fixing To Die Rag (Next Stop Vietnam)
Country Joe & the Fish

Come on all of you big strong men
Uncle Sam needs your help again
he's got himself in a terrible jam
way down yonder in Viet Nam so
put down your books and pick up a gun we're
gonna have a whole lotta fun

(CHORUS)
And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for
don't ask me I don't give a damn, next stop is Viet Nam
And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates
ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die

Come on generals, let's move fast
your big chance has come at last
now you can go out and get those reds
cos the only good commie is the one that's dead and
you know that peace can only be won when we've
blown 'em all to kingdom come

(CHORUS)

Come on wall street don't be slow
why man this war is a go-go
there's plenty good money to be made by
supplying the army with the tools of its trade
let's hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
they drop it on the Viet Cong

(CHORUS)

Come on mothers throughout the land
pack your boys off to Viet Nam
come on fathers don't hesitate
send your sons off before it's too late
and you can be the first ones on your block
to have your boy come home in a box

[PapaJoe]

96. Sounds good to me.

At the time, I never really thought of myself as a real hippie.
I was just another Viet Nam Vet trying to balance my karma and in the process evolved into a populist radical redneck. Flowers and incense were not my thing but peace and justice damn sure were. My kids have become politically active during the last election cycle and see that they can be involved in being responsible world citizens. But they need a little education concerning the threat of multinational corporations, of WTO, NAFTA, WalMart and the like. So yes, I will man the barricades with them but better to teach them to fight smart.

[kohodog]

97. Welcome PapaJoe!

I had a high lottery number and have no idea how things might have worked out otherwise. But everyone who grew up in the 60's knows that we still have work to do

[jimshoes]

98. I'm in...

already doin my part with my bandmates serving up the best of the 60's & 70's progressive rock.

And this quote from the evil Richard Perle,
"If we just let our vision of the world go forth . . . our children will sing great songs about us years from now."

Well Richard, we'll be singing songs about you, and they may even be great, but it definitely ain't gonna be what you and you're evil cabal had in mind. Your vision of the world has gone forth and it sucks, bad! So yes, I'll be writings some songs about you but you won't like them. I guarantee it.

[Technowitch]

102. You bet.

I even put the old draft resistance symbol, the Omega, on my website.

Power to the People, baby.

-Technowitch

[AnIndependentTexan]

103. A interesting read for those who want to learn more about hippies

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/index.php?showtopic=5062&hl=hippie

[yorkiemommie1]

104. the people at the MoveOn.org parties I went to

were mostly middle aged.

[RedTail Wolf]

105. Hurray for old Hippies!

We may have a chance to really show the world what we were striving for in the 60's and early 70's. So many sold out and became Republicans. I see old friends of mine that make me ill . They sold out the ideas and the dreams we fought so hard for. There are still many of us around and we can still march and protest. Power to the People!


RedTail Wolf

[bluedonkey]

109. I was wondering

just the other day, "Where have all the hippies gone?"
And here y'all are!:hi:
Come pick me up,I've been waiting for a long time.
We might have to adjust some of our ways,but we can still kill them with kindness.

[laruemtt]

111. western wv, come pick me up!

let's hit the road! :hippie:

[MaryH]

112. Hey, You Guys are Still Going Strong!

Out of Sight! All Right!

I benn thinking. How did we win back then - against people who were just as sterile and hostile as these folks.

We just filled the streets. There were too many of us to be ignored. And we just kep comin.

Fighting won't work. Being hateful won't work.

But being where we can be seen will work. And being seen where we can be heard will work.

But it needs to be all of us - black and white and everything in between - old and young and all the rest of us.

[Justpat]

113. This trhread makes me happy for the first time in ages.

I'm ready and willing to go anywhere, do anything to stand up to
the BFEE and the religious insanity smothering our country.

A huge problem we have is that the media will not cover events like
the old anti-war marches like they did in the old days. They are all
corporate sell outs and report only what is flattering to egomaniac
in chief.

Any marches and events undertaken would have to be so overwhelming
that even those corporate whores could not ignore them.

Hippies of America, unite!

[MaryH]

114. Hey, dig out those fringe jackets and bandanas

Who cares if the media carries it? Really. We need something to make us care again.

Remember how awful Nixon was? How crooked? How just plain mean?

Well, I don't know about Bush. I don't know what he is really like but he doesn't come across as just plain evil like Nixon did. Now, some of his guys do. Nixon had us watched and taped. And the FBI was going crazy.

So what did we do - we ignored it all. And just went right on like we had good sense. And, in the end, we beat them.

[Kindigger]

116. My parents took me.....

....to anti-war protests when I was ten. Strange...they are so "anal" now. They think I'm weird, my clothes are weird, my apartment is weird, and they don't seem to realize THEY did it to me. ;)

Every so many years, I come back "in style". The years in between...I'm crazy. If I were rich, I would be eccentric....oh well.

:hippie:

http://www.hippy.com

[MaryH]

119. Stick with us! We won't think you're wierd!

I like kids that are teenagers. I think they should all get a chance to be "wierd" for a while.

Good for you that you were able to hold on to yourself through it all. Sometimes that is almost impossible.

[Eloriel]

132. We should take our protests TO the media themselves

often competitive news outfits will report ThAT.

And, of course, the other thing is being outrageous enough that it's impossible to ignore. Think a little more, um, energetic than we've mustered to date. Don't quite know what I mean there, and I'm NOT suggesting violence, vandalism, etc. -- but non-violent civil disobedience I guess.

[bluedonkey]

121. Come out,come out

where ever you are!
December 12,noon,State Capitol in every state!
Time enough to announce at work you're taking a couple of hours off.Hey take a day and enjoy!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=88093#88339

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

147. You stole My Vote march

This is a great idea! I'm going to find out if there'll be one in CT

[Democracy Died 2004]

126. Just a reminder

It was a great time and we did make changes. But remember, there was sacrifice. Kent State, Chicago, Street riots in 68. It wasn't all flower power. I think this is where the line gets drawn today. They will protest but if they hurt them they will run away. A lot of negative things are said of hippies, lazy,filthy and no morals, but show me someone in this generation that would sit there and get the shit beat out of them by pigs. Ain't gonna happen today.

[MaryH]

131. Oh, I remember.

But we need to get on the streets. People in every city, in every town, down every road.

Non-Violent. And maybe "quiet" but there.

I wonder if a huge silence might not be a powerful message.

These guys are nasty fighters. But mostly they just trash innocent people. They can't trash 50 million people.

And they can't attack 50 million, all marching in silence.

[Eloriel]

133. I think you're wrong about that

I really do. Some of our younger people are just as if not more committed to the right things than we were.

[demnan]

142. Turn on

tune in

drop out!!!

Count me in on that bus.

[medeak]

143. we know how to march...

it's time for candle lit march me thinks...just like the old days!

[MaryH]

144. Yea! I thought about that one, too.

Do you think there is anyone in Nevada to go with you?

[medeak]

149. San Fran

isn't that far away!

[babylonsister]

148. MaryH! Woman after

my own heart!