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itsrainingkarma Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 10:09 PM
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25% of Americans have Bachelors degrees or Higher...
25%!!! that's it... and your 25% more likely to have a bachelors degree if you live in the north east than if you live in the south... Kerry won college educated individuals 2-1 and Bush won non college educated individuals 4-1... he won the south... see where i'm going with this? without being blunt =)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 10:12 PM
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1. 75+% of the"guests" on
the jerry springer show?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 10:13 PM
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2. idiots like Bush?
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 10:17 PM
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3. actually, Kerry won High School grads and Graduate School grads
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 10:20 PM by sonicx
and Bush won Regular College grads....if i remember correctly (this is off the top of my head :)).

I think it was the same with Gore vs Bush.
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__Inanna__ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 12:35 AM
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8. I heard that Kerry won
college graduates and * won those with no college degree, which would make sense, in light of the numbers. By definition, I think anyone with a master's would be just as likely to vote for Kerry as *, as well.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 10:20 PM
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4. 25%???
that's it?

wow--I never knew that the rate was that low

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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 10:23 PM
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5. That's it too. 25% or so percent. If you're not in that gruop then...
...you're fucked.

Yes there are exceptions to the rule of not having a degree as well as those with one that "fail".

But the fact is about 25% or so of the population will do FINE no matter how far Bush goes (Qualified by the systemic problems ((Like the Dollar collapsing)) that may make my comparisons moot), this is the basis of the class war that will erupt sooner or later.

But since things happen faster now days I'm guessin sooner rather than later....
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:27 PM
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6. If Kerry won college educated individuals 2-1...
and Bush won non college educated individuals 4-1, Bush would have gotten about 68% of the vote, assuming that roughly the same percentage of each group voted. :shrug:
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 12:16 AM
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7. I was surprised to see some of the numbers...
I had always assumed that more people had higher education degrees.
Only 5.9% of the population has Masters degrees,
2.0% of the population has professional degrees,
and 1.0% of the population has doctorate degrees.

With all the complaints about lawyers being a dime a dozen, I expected the professional degrees to be MUCH higher. Very interesting...
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xpunkisneatx Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:03 AM
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10. Wow!
I just applied to grad school and will come out with a Masters in Physician Assistant Studies...I thought there were alot more people with bachelors and masters degrees...Although, I will only be the second person in my family to get a masters degree...my mom was first and she got hers when she was 43 (she is now 46). I guess we are the real minority in this country.
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:33 PM
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12. good luck with your application!
I am in a Masters program now, leading to a PhD. Always thought there were more of us out there :)
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 12:41 AM
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9. cite please.
Where are getting this from? Links?
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:40 PM
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13. Speaking for my stats...
got this straight from the U.S. Census website. Not sure where the original poster got the info from.

My link:
http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/QTTable?_bm=y&-geo...

Here is a quick link to an educational attainment state map, however:
http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ThematicMapFramese...

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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:29 AM
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11. Here are the actual data from exit polling.
Edited on Sat Nov-27-04 01:34 AM by Julien Sorel
(Bush in first column, Kerry in second column. The parenthetical number represents the percentage of voters who fell in that group, for example, 4% of voters did not complete high school).


No High School (4%) 49% 50%

H.S. Graduate (22%) 52% 47%

Some College (32%) 54% 46%

College Graduate (26%) 52% 46%

Postgrad Study (16%) 44% 55%


No College Degree (58%) 53% 47%

College Graduate (42%) 49% 49%

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/U...



According to this, 40% of voters have college degrees, but I remember reading there's a high correlation between education and voting -- the more education you have, the more likely you are to vote.

Anyway, Bush won the four year degree crowd, which doesn't surprise me as the vast majority of people who simply shuffle through to get their degrees are doing so to fulfill middle class expectations rather than from any desire to learn. Also white people, who are the Republican Party for all intents and purposes, are much more likely to have a degree than minorities.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:20 PM
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14. Top 20 cities of people over 25 with college degrees
1. Seattle, WA
2. Raleigh, NC
3. San Fransico, CA
4. Washington, DC
5. Minneapolis, MN
6. Boston, MA
7. Denver, CO
8. Austin, TX
9. St. Paul, MN
10. Lexington, KY
11. Atlanta, GA
12. Charlotte, NC
13. Colorado Springs, CO
14. Oakland, CA
15. San Diego, CA
16. Portland, OR
17. San Jose, CA
18. Honolulu, HI
19. Sacramento, CA
20. Anchorage, AK

5 of these are southern cities, 8 are in "red" states - so how does this prove what you were trying to prove?

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Products/Ranking/2003/R02...
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 07:37 PM
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15. And that's how we prefer it
It's hard enough to get a good job as a young college grad. When my grandfather graduated from college, any college graduate could walk right into a good paying job. Now there are so many people with college degrees that many of us don't get good jobs. There are jobs around here that require a 4 year degree and only pay $9.00. We'd really be in trouble if more people got degrees. Better cut Federal loans and grants.
No, I am not really that selfish, but some people are. These people were probably Bush voters.
Strengthening the economy through science and technology to bring everyone up is more the answer, which Kerry offered that would be good for both college grads and non college grads.
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