Scary ass post from my local ISP's message board...

[TheMightyFavog]

Talk about something scary to come home to... :scared:

(Note: I'd post a link, however my ISP does not let outsiders view the message boards.)

Nations go to war to win war, not to lose. They develop the know-how to win, like we did when we developed the a - bomb to defeat Japan, which we did, saving 1 million yank lives. Untold billions were spent to develop the bomb and create a nuclear arsenal to protect ourselves and the free world. It worked. Those kamikaze-minded suicide bombers quit after two nukes showed them what they were up against. Now islam is going after us the same way, killing, to date more than1000 yanks as they perpetrate suicide bombings.

We possess nuclear arms; our enemies do not, at least not yet. Yet they behead us, kill us, mutilate our dead bodies ,drag them thru the streets of their cities, and threaten us if we bomb their so called "holy cities", and subject us to humiliation for “abusing” the terrorists we have captured as if we were supposed to coddle them instead. As this goes on we huddle in fear of what terrorists will do next, and on election day, and when we travel.

So what do we do? The unelected U.S. Supreme Court gives them “terrorists rights”
to sue in our courts while “back home” they behead us. And we prosecute our own soldiers for not coddling them.’
REAL REAL SMART, isn’t it?

This isn’t the start of this insanity -

We could have won in Korea with nuclear weapons, but the liberals, panicking the administration, claimed Russia and China would nuke us if we nuked korea. the result: nukes sat idle, the war was a stalemate, 33,000 yanks died and now korea has come back with its own nukes, threatening us which never would have happened had we nuked them back then.
Real real smart.

We could have won in Vietnam, but the liberals claimed nukes weren’t nice because too many of our enemy should die. the result: we lost the war, and 59,000 yanks died, instead.
Real real smart.

We went to war in Iraq in 1990, but pulled out when it was half over, leaving the regime in power. The result: another war had to be begun all over, which we thought we won. but yanks die daily while nukes sit idle. Some victory we “won”.
Real real smart

Now we are led blindly down the path to believe moslem nations such as Pakistan will assist us in rooting out alqueda. Al queda is paying everyone off to be on their side. even if they weren’t, moslems wouldn’t act for us. Allied with Pakistan?
Real real smart

Hw long will this “pearl harbor – 9/11 mentality” of sitting back, doing nothing decisive and procrastinating, persist? Do we have to wait until they blow us up, kill our children, brothers, sisters and parents one by one before we finally realize that we are justified in totally annihilating them and ending their threat for once and for all?

In the meantime bandit and terrorist nations are clamoring to build nukes. Who do you think they will use them against, Monaco? Do you think these kamikaze minded maniacs will consider fallout or any similar considerations when they can and will nuke us, to make them hesitate to nuke? The liberals show photos of burnt Jap children to move us not to nuke. But what will our children look like if they nuke us? Do we have to await a third Pearl Harbor-9/11 before our sense of self-preservation and the preservation of our posterity is awakened and we excise the malignancy of islam from the face and body of mankind for once and for all?

Must we apologize to them and coddle them and their terrorists and excuse ourselves for conducting war? And must they get rights to sue in our courts while they behead us in their lands?

Did we spend those untold billions for marching down Main St. on the fourth of July, while yanks die daily and the arsenal sits idle or was there a more appropriate purpose to build the nuclear arsenal and protect ourselves? How long must we keep on huddling in fear and worry of what they will do to us next, when nukes sit idle?

What kind of fools are we?


Yeah, turn our nukes loose on em! That'll make us more liked in the world. What a dumbass

[knowbody0]

1. there are no words

[The Doctor.]

2. 17 year-old meatheads shouldn't be allowed to post...

As myopic as they get.

yeah- great idea, make sure the whole world wants us dead all while making sure we wreck the biosphere.

What scares the hell outta me is there's a good chance his dream will come true.

[pk_du]

3. Notice how he doesnt say anything naming Bu$h41 in the

Iraq-1 war...and to answer his ending question...

.."republican fools"

[TheMightyFavog]

4. BTW

The particular area This ISP is mostly in is one of the most red parts of Wisconsin.

[Jackpine Radical]

6. Fox River Valley?

Vilas County?

Adams?

Tell, tell!

[TheMightyFavog]

11. Southwest Marinette and all of Oconto Conty

Freeper Central. Although, other parts of Marinette county are not all that repukified. There's a strong union and Dem prescence in the City of Marinette, and Marinette county as a whole almost went for Feingold.

[Berserker]

8. Sick ass ISP

Only one question. If this is a Wisconsin ISP why all the YANK references? We don't talk like that.

[TheMightyFavog]

14. The OP said that he got this off another message board.

End of Line.

[TaleWgnDg]

5. More than ignorant . . .

It's dysfunctional paranoia, repressed anger and hate. Did somebody drop this individual on his/her head soon after birth? Sad, really sad. Then, again, it could be argued that GWBush and Company are seeding this incredulous mental attitude too.




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[DianeG5385]

7. USA is the only country ever to use nukes

Why do you think everyone else WANTS them? There's no more M.A.D. when the Whitehouse is occupied by a madman. I think this idiot is itching to find an excuse to use them.

[WMliberal]

9. .

:eyes:

[The Straight Story]

10. To be liked or to be feared, that is the question (he is not a total idiot

The person posting this is somewhat of an idiot at any rate. The question should be more along the lines of - what good was the war, how did it serve the american interest (and by that I mean america the people, not simple the leaders), and now many years later what has it accomplished.

I have heard we beat the soviets, and we never want to war with them. China may be next over the years as the weight of a people wanting freedom will someday overtake the weight of oppression.

Nuclear weapons have a place - called defense. Mutual assured destruction, don't attack us and we won't attack you. In the wrong hands nukes are indeed dangerous - but having a commander in chief who kills more with his armies than with nukes can be worse.

It is, in that vein, the politics of using the lives of americans to kill others instead of using nuclear weapons. In this sense the person writing this is not TOTALLY and idiot: If we made the mandate that wars can only be fought with nuclear weapons and not our soldiers then perhaps we would think twice before rushing into a war, countries seem less likely to do anything about * and crew sending people to kill people (which has the same end result mostly) but they would not take him nuking them (nor would the citizens of the US).

Leaders think nothing of throwing kids in front of the enemy, but they sure as hell don't want to use the big weapons because of how it might affect their paycheck and their ability to hold onto power.

To sum up - the war is not worth fighting if we are not willing to win it totally with the greatest weapons we possess - and if that is true then one would find out quickly how many wars we would be in (like Iraq). It would be zero. The congress would not vote to use them, the people would riot, russia/china/et al would all not allow it.

The only wars without them would have to be sanctioned by the UN and include multi-national forces (this would/could be our law forcing us to use them when we want to attack someone). Saddam is a terrible threat to us? Nuke him then. Won't happen. So they would be forced to get a buy off from the other nations to use humans to do the work.

Ok, maybe crazy, but I have been drinking ;)

[EST]

18. Unfortunately, you are assuming some sort of sanity

in the "ruling" class. Although I make an effort not to aim my blunderbuss at religicos in general, any group of people (read-extremists) who really believes this life is but a preparation for a yet grander one, no matter what the cost, or to whom, must be willing, even anxious, to use the most violent, the most persuasive, the most deadly mass weapon available. To those of such mental paucity, the most horrible, far reaching solution is the most agreeable.

[The Straight Story]

20. Those who believe in nothing after this life

and are in power, have no reason to care at all about their actions - they can care only for themselves and their gain, and when such are in power then they make the rules. Morals have no meaning unless given meaning by those holding power.

Your morals go to your kids, because you have the power to teach them to them and enforce your values in your home. If * does not believe in a higher power then right now in this world he is the higher power - he is the leader of our country, has nukes at hand, has a military, controls many things. Morals with no basis vested in a power that others cannot destroy or control (ie, a god or creator if one will) are worth little without the power to make those morals reality.

The idea with a religion or belief in a generally higher power is that mankind will do what is best for each other and not act solely in their own self interest because to do so will have dire consequences. Remove that and the only ones who can mete out those 'punishments' are those with the power to do so (ie to imprison, kill, et al). Why should they listen to your beliefs, why should they care about others at all, who will make their morals of 'goodness' the 'right' one?

Live in a world without a power that is above humankind and the only ones left to make and enforce morals are those who have the power and weapons to do so. In a utopic world we would all love and care about each other and do the 'right thing'. That world is not around anywhere I see (from murder rates to *). Even if the 'people' pull together and take power and set rules which they find moral there will always, always, be people who disagree with it and will seek to have their own power to make things how they personally see things should be. Always been that way in this world.

It is a battle of ideas, even with a higher power because even those who share a core common belief (say christianity for example) have differences on some things. The catholic church in history has been one such arm of things where they grabbed power and made morality. It was fought against and a new morality was born, more free from the chains previously made.

there are those who believe they represent the higher power and will use their power to do 'evil' unto others. There are those who have no real core belief in a god, though they claim to get people on their side, who will do the same thing.

Which leaves us all where? Either those in power are evolution and natural selection in action (ie, the strongest win - in which case no matter how * got into power he is a winner on that scale because he holds the power) or there is a greater force at work on both sides (ie the god/lucifer thing) which battle to save/destroy mankind.

left with this - that * is a step up because he has proven he can take what he wants and is therefore winning the survival of the fittest and we are the losers, or that * and others like him in the world have fallen prey to the lusts they were seduced with by a real evil unseen and which is battled against by a superior being who represents good - I would, myself, tend to really start believing that there is a god and a devil :)

Ok, some fun in all that, so don't take me too serious and thank you for the reply.

[StClone]

12. Nukes are made NOT to USE!

They are a stalemating strategy.

Also this line has me wondering what this idiot was thinking:
So what do we do? The unelected U.S. Supreme Court gives them “terrorists rights”

Did this behemoth turd know that the many of the butts that got us into Iraq were not elected? Wolfie, Condi, etc.

Ambitions beyond their reach instead of reevaluating the situation they get a bigger stick.

[Maddy McCall]

25. Exactly.

[Nordic]

13. Did Tony Blair write this?

I picture Tony Blair, late at night, drunk, tapping away at his keyboard.

What's with all the "yanks" talk?

Bizarre. Just fucking weird

[Gnaeus]

28. Could be...

... but Blair wouldn't used "we" in the sense of wars like Vietnam or Korea, though British troops may have been there.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. I smell bullshit...

"we" don't refer to ourselves as "yanks".

[MisterP]

16. this whole thing was pulled out of Curtis LeMay's arse

[Rjnerd]

17. The oil won't do us any good

If it glows in the dark. The oil is why we are there isn't it?

[BikeWriter]

19. That's how we "won" in VietNam...

We killed a million or so of them. Talk about winning hearts and minds...

[walldude]

21. Boys and girls...

can you say Psycho?

[pop goes the weasel]

22. just tell the moran

the overlooked fact that several nations besides the US have nuclear bombs now, and that, thanks to the collapse of the USSR, the spread of fissionable materials as well as nuclear waste is so prevalent in Central Asia that any geek can build a small A-bomb in the privacy of his own refugee camp tent. Remind the moran that Central Asia is a big place, encompassing several different countries, some of which are supposedly our allies.

[Cadence]

23. First of all it's

really scary how little people know about the effects of actually using a nuclear bomb anywhere and the impact it would have on us in terms of the fallout, the ozone directly above detonation, ocean contamination etc. No matter how "far away" it was. It would be suicide. Helen Caldicott has some really good books on this subject. Unfortunately idiots like that will never read them.

[TheMightyFavog]

24. I rebuked these people, here's some of their resopnses....

I see the socialist is back from school.


Who the hell cares if the world wants us dead or not? A great deal of it already does, albeit secretly. They hate our success. We have been bailing the rest of the world out of their little messes for far too long with little or no appreciation. A couple of tactical nukes would certainly get the world's attention, telling them that you don't f%#$ with America. This could be accomplished without doing too much environmental harm.


Not that I condone it, but, the damage could be very localized. Remember the bunker buster nukes Bush was working on? Below ground level less fall out. For the subject of discussion, it is just a matter of time, before these terrorist groups get ahold of a nuke. If they do, they will use it. If we were to nuke a terrorist group, would this stop them from using one? Could this warn countries not to back or allow terrorism? Would every country start working on nukes, to prepare to get even? We would have to be real careful over who we tthreatened, or used these weapons on. Much of the old Soviet block has some, as well as China India and others. Could/would we start the beginning of the end? Or would we devastate so badly, the world would fear us? Would this fear isolate us? Many questions here. Easy to say let's nuke the bastar#s, but what if we do. OK, I admit it has crossed my mind, but these questions have as well.

Maybe carpet bombing, or heavier weapons would be better to use first, even the neutron bomb, might be better. At least that way we don't have to rebuild cities.

Venturing on to their politics board is a lot like going to Free Republic. Every time I come back from visiting it, I feel like I have to shower at least three times. :puke:

I guess I have one thing to be thankful for this year. I'm thankful that these knuckle draggers aren't in positions of power in our government.

[liberalhistorian]

26. They may not be, but people who

people who think like them are, unfortunately, and they've only been more emboldened by this election. I used to wonder how monsters like Hitler, Mussolini, et al., ever were allowed to come into power and do their damage. But with people like this, it's very easy to see how quickly and easily it can happen. And any post on Freak Republic will demonstrate that.

[shesemsmom]

27. That's whee I think this is headed though

I don't know how or it there is a way to stop it. But shrub is just idiot and vain enough to believe that is the answer to the problem, when the problem is him:nuke:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

29. Reads like a GW Bush term paper...

Christ, can't these morons think past their dicks?