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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:30 AM
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"The Radical Right and the Murder of JFK"
"Texas is not very loyal to America, but is loyal primarily to itself...Texas remains a threat, looking after its own interests, and sometimes crushing or killing anyone who gets in their way...

Text From 'The Radical Right and the Murder of JFK': Part 1
Book Written By Harry Livingstone

"The men who create power make an indispensable contribution to the nation's greatness, but the men who question power make a contribution just as indispensable. . . for they determine whether we use power or power uses us."

--John Kennedy.

Introduction

"We sure blew the son-of-a-bitch away, didn't we?!"* The JFK case was fundamentally broken in the late 1990's by an extensive series of government interviews with all available medical and photographic personnel involved in the autopsy of President John F. Kennedy. The interviews were conducted by a Presidentially appointed board, the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB), and are deposited in the National Archives II of the United States in College Park, Maryland. The interviews make it clear that the visual evidence, and probably the autopsy report were fabricated after the assassination. The relevant material is presented in this book.

The meaning of this is that there was a domestic political conspiracy to kill President Kennedy to prevent his re-election, to prevent the imminent arrest of Vice-President Lyndon Baines Johnson, the subject of major investigations in Congress and in Texas on murder charges and many criminal charges in the Billie Sol Estes and Bobby Baker scandals and other crimes, and to prevent the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Vietnam--in fact to reverse the entire direction of Kennedy's conservative financial management, the pending dtente with Cuba and the Soviet Union, and liberalizing polices of a Centrist President. Johnson not only avoided imprisonment, but then became president and led the country into a disastrous war which saw America suffer and ignominious defeat and withdrawal.

The only winners were the war profiteers, and Johnson's Texas backers, who stood to lose immense power if Kennedy dropped Johnson from the ticket in 1964. It is not rational that the cover-up of the facts in Kennedy's murder were fabricated to mask the mistakes of federal agencies, as some maintain, or problems created for them by the assassination and Lee Harvey Oswald's employment as a government agent. The nature of the cover-up left only Oswald as the accused lone assassin, and hides the fact that there were more shots--and therefore more gunmen--and shots from other directions than from the sixth floor window of the school book building. In fact, it is unlikely that any shots at all were fired from that window.

It is Texas and its Radical Rightists that Americans must fear. Texas extremism is very dangerous to the United States and the World, and has sought to control both since 1900, when oil gave it the money and power to take over the direction of America. Texas is not very loyal to America, but is loyal primarily to itself. Texas was an independent nation for a time, and it arrogantly teaches its youth patriotism to the state--with the implication that the State of Texas comes above even the United States itself. Texas harbors the most extreme and powerful Rightists in the nation, Rightists who hate the United Nations and the liberal sentiment of the large Center Majority of America.

Texas often controlled America, even rich Easterners such as the Rockefellers, whose money came to be rooted in the East Texas oil fields. The principal backers of President Eisenhower were the independent oil men of Texas, who bought him his retirement farm. They lost that control when John Kennedy defeated Richard Nixon and Henry Cabot Lodge in 1960, and regained it when they killed Kennedy in 1963. From Johnson through Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush and his son, George W. Bush, Texas remains a threat, looking after its own interests, and sometimes crushing or killing anyone who gets in their way, including President Kennedy.

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http://www.theksbwchannel.com/news/3939906/detail.html
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:45 AM
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1. This is certainly what many of us thought in 1963
Whether or not LBJ was involved was always more problematic, but the immediate assumpton on November 22, 1963 was that Texas was enemy territory and that Kennedy's greatest enemies were oilmen like H.L. Hunt.

In later years, the focus shifted to the CIA/Cuba/Mob nexus and the oil connection sort of disappeared from awareness. But I've always kept it at the back of my mind as a big set of unanswered questions.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:48 AM
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2. I think "where the body was found"
...matters a great deal, in figuring out whodunnit...
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:59 AM
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3. I became politically aware during Camelot.
I was young, still in elementary school, I believed the Warren Commission Report.
I wasn't aware of any conspiracy theory at the time, I believed everything told on the evening news.

What did you hear at the time? I didn't even know Johnson was suspected until a series came out on the History Channel last year.

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:19 PM
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5. growing up in the Bay Area in the 60's & 70's...
...I don't think there was ever a time when I didn't believe the "lone nut" theory was bogus... Especially after the "coincidental" slayings of Martin Luther King and RFK in '68, which really sent the postwar coup into high gear...
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:14 PM
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9. in the anti-war movement of the 60s in the Bay Area, someone
wrote a play about LBJ and the plot to kill JFK.... remember reading it

it may have been all over the country in the anti-war movement
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:46 PM
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11. MacBird
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:08 AM
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12. along with "The Devils,"
...that play may be due for a revival. Though I wonder, personally, how active LBJ might have been in a Texas plot, or if his role was just to keep his mouth closed...

... and was his signing of civil rights legislation considered a "betrayal" of the Texas coup?
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:03 PM
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6. Marina Oswald was taken to Hunt's office after Lee
was nabbed and interrogated. The translator was a man named Illy Mamantov--A friend of Poppy Bush. Poppy sent Mamantov a letter shortly before his death in the early 90's.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:04 PM
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7. ah, the "coincidences" run deep, don't they?
Just like in the "vote" counting -- and the "unforseen" terrorist attack -- of today...
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:05 PM
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4. As a born-and-bred Texan, I agree with the premise of the article.
I simply took it as a matter of course that people in all states were brought up to revere their own state the way Texans are. I was surprised as an adult to find that wasn't so. I was also surprised to find that Texas was NOT the greatest place on Earth, or even the greatest place in America.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:34 PM
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8. let's tell Texas...
they can have their Republic back now, and fend for themselves...
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:18 PM
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10. for years before JFK's murder, there were RW radio shows attacking
him.....Fulton Lewis Jr, Kaltenborn (?)

they were quite rabid in the months leading up to his visit in Dallas

and the reports all over the news about Dallas and TX school students cheering when Kennedy was shot
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:37 AM
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13. Murder a right wing leader and
the machine keeps rolling but murder a populist President and the hole can not be filled.
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