George W Bush billboards in FL (have a look!)

[Vote4Kerry]

Look what is popping up in Florida folks--brings back memories of Stalin!:

[Roland99]

1. I think I'm gonna hurl....

[eleonora]

2. OUR LIAR

It begs for some photoshoping

[Lefta Dissenter]

3. are you serious,

or did you photoshop this?

[Bucky]

57. "Vote4Kerry" has less than 40 posts on DU & joined up last week

Prolly a photoshop. The guy who posted this (Vote4Kerry) has less than 40 posts on DU & joined last week. I'd put my money on it being a freeper trolling for panicky liberals. If no one can verify this, he's just a dude screaming "boo" in the dark.

[Jester_11218]

4. Reminds me of Saddam in Iraq

n/t

[Walt Starr]

5. WAR IS PEACE!!!!

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

1984 came 20 years later than expected.

[Tsiyu]

6. It's a trap to see who will deface it

Aim from a distance with a REAL sharp paintball gun....if you would do something illegal like that...

[Vote4Kerry]

7. not a joke-in Orlando area

I think Clear Channel is the one that put it up (not 100% on that one though)

[Florida_Geek]

22. It is Clear Channel

you can see their name at the bottom far right

[Rockholm]

8. Stalin, Saddam, Kim Jong Il...They are all the same!

[jdj]

19. People need to start making the Stalin connection more and more

and drop the Hitler one.

People in Russia still can't talk about Stalin. The world still can't get it's mind around what happened in Stalinism, unfortunately, because the dynamic is programmed as a family dynamic in early childhood which the world apparently is not ready to examine yet, to our detriment; the whole good/bad, black/white thing that we get programmed with in early early childhood to make us socially acceptable, there is no depth of understanding or examination given to children (I'm talking 2 and 3 years old) because they can't take depth in yet, there are simply rules, and one must fall in line. This is the mentality of these people, they so desperately want a Daddy to give their blind obedience to...it is the easiest way to function for people who are psychologically overwhelmede by paradox and contrast. (Probably because of brutality in their own early childhood, and to see their Daddy for what he was (or Mommy) would probably break irreparably their already broken mind).

Well, we've arrived at Stalinism, where one can be made "bad" specific to the current right-this-second circumstance, and one must keep weeding out the bad, and declaring loyalty to the captain of the good. The terms mean nothing of course, but for there to be some good there must always be some bad, and these bad must be shamed and punished, the public spectacle must be perpetual.

[peekaloo]

36. Wasn't Stalin Saddam's hero?

good post.

[jhain]

9. Tell me that is a photo shop deal..

I can't take much more of this.

What does it say across the bottom?
' not authorized by any camapign?? candidate......

yeah, right.
Jeb was out there in the dark with a big glue stick.

[tinanator]

10. and so it begins

if that is truly a political public service message brought to you by Clear Channel, all I can say is every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

[Mad_Dem_X]

11. All Praise Big Brother!

God, I miss the United States.

[thecrow]

12. Brought to you by..... Clear Channel!!!!!

[Tuttle]

24. in the lower right

it appears to say 'Clear Channel'

Since when did Bush become the 'leader' of Clear Channel?

Tut-tut

[MaineDem]

13. Interesting but does this qualify as LBN?

Is there a link to the story?

It's way too easy to photoshop these days.

[davhill]

15. It is not Photoshopped!

There are two of these monstrocities facing commuters on I-4 approaching downtown Orlando and another on I-95 approaching Jacksonville.

[Vote4Kerry]

17. Not a joke -on I-4 in FL

I was just so sick when I saw this poster and wanted to make sure everybody knew that they existed..there might not be any articles yet about them but they are definitely up!

[peekaloo]

37. I-4 going east or west ?

near Disney I presume?

[Walt Starr]

39. Could we have another shot from a different angle, please

Not to diss you, but you signed up on November 16th, have very few posts, your name says "Vote4Kerry" which you signed up with 14 days after the election had already occurred, and we cannot confirm the billboard exists.

We need some confirmation. Sorry, but DU has had credibility damaged in the past by newbies posting bullshit stories and crank posts.

Please get us confirmation.

[tanyev]

14. Alright, who's going up there

with a big, fat Sharpie? That is just crying out for a Hitler moustache.

[frankly_fedup2]

27. Or a spray paint in black and in front of "Leader" put "mis" for misleader

nt

[sniffa]

16. the Leader is good, the Leader is great

we surrender our wiLL
as of this date

[ComerPerro]

72. nana-nana-nana-nana-LEADER!!!!!!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

18. I like it. I really do.

While 17,000 lawyers are working over the recount matter in Ohio, and John Kerry is staying out of sight except to discuss health care for children via an online video, I want this billboard to stay up.

It will look so gorgeous when it comes down.

Remember the toppling of Saddam Hussein's statue in Baghdad?

Think we can get the National Guard to help us take this one down?

Oh, right. They're all in Baghdad..............

[clydefrand]

20. Just one more reason we will delay our pilgrimage to FL

for the winter! I'll have to see at least one of those suckers!

Maybe the owner is gearing up for the recount!

[The Backlash Cometh]

21. Right-wing billboards can be seen from here (Central Fla.) to

Gainesville and from here to Ocala on the interestate. Mostly anti-abortion billboards. But they all have ClearChannel's name on them.

[Danmel]

23. Yet another reason to boycott FLorida

I think I might crash if I saw that while driving- how utterly repulsive.

[otohara]

31. My Son Will NOT Go To Florida

on spring break for a LAX tournament. Not one time of our money will go to FL.

[davhill]

25. Just because the Press does not see fit

to report our descent into dictatorship, this should not be locked as not LBN. It is news that for the first time in the history of American Democracy such idolatrous displays are occurring.

[Oreo]

26. Anybody know cyrillic?

I'd bet this says OUR LEADER also

[Krupskaya]

29. It doesn't.

At the bottom, it says "Iosif Vissarionovich Stalin" and over his shoulder it says VKP(B), which stands for "All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks)."

But, you know, close enough.

[demnan]

28. Here ya go -

[rawstory]

30. CLEAR CHANNEL DENIES BILLBOARD EXISTS

I just called their press person in Jacksonville. You KNOW this billboard exists, guys, you've seen it? Because I can't even write about it. I'm sending their sales person in Jacksonville the photo now, but he says it's not actually there and probably photoshopped.

[wicket]

32. keep us updated!!

Thanks for looking into this!

[rawstory]

35. Also, Orlando guy was out of the office...

So just waiting for Jacksonville guy to email me back. I'd agree -- can we get a photo from a different angle? Can others weigh in who use these Interstates? Has anyone else actually seen them?

[UL_Approved]

50. Some more evidence

This MAY indicate a legitimate photo:

Post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

No absolute confirmation, but a good case.

[Flammable Materials]

41. I'd say Clear Channel is guilty until proven innocent. n/t

[ellie]

33. What people need to

do is to pull a Doc Sarvis on it.

[Walt Starr]

34. Could we get a photo of this from a different angle?

Coinfirmation would be nice here.

[davhill]

64. Here is another view of the same

[Vote4Kerry]

65. Awesome -Where is this sign located?

Good job getting different angle--where did you find this sign?!

[UpsideDownFlag]

68. ...'awesome'?

how's it awesome?

[Lorien]

38. Maybe we should buy a Clinton billboard:

"William Jefferson Clinton: Our great PEACE and PROSPERITY PRESIDENT"!

[Walt Starr]

40. I CALL BULLSHIT!!!!!!

Two threads posted within five minutes of each other and Clearchannel denies the existance of the billboards.

I call bullshit on this one.

[Walt Starr]

42. Bullshit kick

[Stephanie]

47. I haven't seen any confirmation at all that it's real.

The logo is a little over-the-top. Two threads posted by the same newbie. Lots of comments but no verification. I think your call is probably right, unless a witness pipes up that they've actually seen it.

I've asked for witnesses here, but none so far:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[belle]

76. It looks like a very deadpan joke to me...

[datasuspect]

43. looks like

they touched up the photo too

clearchannel is such a sorry fucking company, although they have a good 19th century business model

[GinaMaria]

44. I would make one slight change to the illboard (deliberate typo)

The letter 'Y'

Your Leader

You chose him. I didn't. You deal with the bad Karma coming. Reap what you sow.

[Walt Starr]

48. The picture is a photoshop

This is not real, somebody is yanking chains.

[Brundle_Fly]

54. fixed

[NervousRex]

45. Nice try...

This is BS....How many threads are you going to start concerning this Photoshop job?

[Walt Starr]

46. Notice the name

and the date he signed up. Dead giveaway.

[NervousRex]

49. Yep...

incredibly lame.

[Ducks In A Row]

51. bullshit. it doesn't exist, and you should go back to freeperland

[davhill]

55. It is NOT photoshopped!!

I took the picture. Now I feel like I am in a Kafka short story. There are two actual billboards and anyone who commutes down I-4 near the Fairbanks or Princeton interchange cannot miss them. Surely some other DUer has seen them. I don't know if Kerry4President is a Freeper or not. He borrowed the snapshot I took and uploaded. I took it with my own camera and did no retouching at all. I know you are reluctant to believe this can happen in America but if we stick our heads in the sand until this becomes commonplace it will be too late.

[Walt Starr]

63. Sorry, it WAS photoshopped

Perspective between the Bush photo and the rest of the billboard is wrong. Look at this redlined version here:

[JHB]

52. Unsere Fuehrer...

...in the original German.

[Butterflies]

53. Why do you call yourself "Vote4Kerry"? You joined last week.

Nov. 17th to be exact.

[Vote4Kerry]

56. Here is all info I've got so far on signs (links)

Been busy at work and don't have much time to post right now, but here is all the information I've got on signs (Sorry to cause such a big controversy here). From what I hear, one of the signs is located on I-95 near the I-10 junction. The person where I got the information from says the signs are owned by these people:


Clear Channel Outdoor
5333 Old Winter Garden Road
Orlando , FL 32811
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

The original place where the thread got started is here (where I was able to get my information):

http://forum.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?s=dc433bf...

Also,here is a group that is putting up Bush signs (link):
http://www.frwsb.org/GOP-Billboard.htm

Hopefully you guys can investigate this further. I am definitely not willingly trying to post false information. The above are my sources and I have heard several people verify that signs exist. Please check it out for sure! Thanks everybody (Got to go back to work but will be back on later in day for updates)!

[NervousRex]

58. Bullpoop!

The link to that GOP group says or shows NOTHING like this board They are putting up something entirely different. And rumors spread on Randi Rhodes' message board are proof of nothing. ESAD!

[KyndCulture]

61. I'll delurk for this controversy

I got emailed the pic with a link to the DU post saturday. I posted the link on Randi's Board. I posted the clear channel information today. I called Clear Channel and my sister in Jacksonville. My sister says there is a billboard with a picture of Bush in Jacksonville, but she didn't see what it said. I'm guessing it may be this one. She said they put it up saturday, but she's an old fart and doesn't have or know how to use a digital camera....

I also called clear channel and they deny the billboards exist. I am a web designer and the pic I was emailed does have a signature from a Nikon digital camera..but there is little else I can see. The person who emailed it to me, got it from DU. I have family in Florida so I thought I'd try and figure out if it was real. No luck yet.

I can't prove or disprove the existence of the billboard. Some folks from Randi's board are in Orlando and they are going billboard hunting this afternoon...

Sorry folks... I don't know what else to say!?!?

Lisa
KyndCulture.com

[Walt Starr]

67. Interesting, because these things showed up on DU today

not Saturday. I saw no thread whatsoever with this photo on Saturday.

[Bluebear]

70. I did see the photo over the weekend

Without vouching for the billboard's Stalinesue authenticity, I did comment that certainly the picture was from some plastic surgeon's clinic because Bush doesn't look that healthy.

[KyndCulture]

75. There is another pic of the billboard...

I went a looked at the img src where I found the link, in the directory there was this pic.



I did see a thread Saturday, ... I'll see if I can find it.... these are the 2 links I was emailed. I'm not a freeper and def not trying to cause any problems. I too would like to know if it's photoshopped.

Peace!
Lisa
KyndCulture.com

[cabbage08]

69. do you have the link from this weekend?

It may prove to be a photo shop job yet, we will have to wait for confirmation

[belle]

77. Is it possible that an anti-CC/Bush group really put up a billboard?

In the tradition of Billionaires for Bush and Betty Bowers, a very deadpan joke?

If so, hats off.

[Walt Starr]

62. The perspective in this phony picture is screwed up, here's the proof

Redline is 100% perpindicular to the rest of the photo, as is the edge of the Bush photo, but look at the post beneath it compared to the rest of the redline.

This is a proven photoshop!

[davhill]

71. If I hadn't taken the picture myself

I would be convinced by your analysis. Unfortuntely it is not a fake. Here is another view of the same billboard.

[KyndCulture]

79. Excellent

The source of the picture. Hey Dav? Where exactly is this, the folks on my other board that live in Orlando want to go see this... (I hope they take eggs!)

Lisa

[Miami Liberal]

59. I'll be in Orlando this weekend

so I'll be on the lookout for this. I haven't heard anything about this billboard from a few friends I have in the Orlando area. Seems pretty suspicious to me.

[Vote4Kerry]

60. Check I-4 heading into Orlando

I heard from some people that one of the signs was there

[kerry-is-my-prez]

66. Wonder how long it will take for someone to deface it?

If I lived a little closer - I'd be very tempted....

[donhakman]

74. as an expert

the perpendicular aspect of one portion is not important since there will be an area that must be perpendicular. At first the saturation of the blue surrounding the text (without any reflective qualities)seemed suspect but with the addition of another angle shot -I will have to study the 2nd shot before rendering an opinion.

[ComerPerro]

73. That really is horrifying

There are no other words for this. Its so disgustingly sycophatic.

[donhakman]

78. dav

As billboards go - this is one of the most expensive versions.

I accept the validity of the photos.

here is what an altered version looks like