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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:43 PM
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" Psychologists must be in heaven"

(this was in a buzzflash mailbag letter)


"Psychologists must be in heaven. They have one of the largest experiments in self-deception, denial and groupthink in the history of the world going on right under their noses."


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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:45 PM
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1. Thx, i needed a laugh!
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:51 PM
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2. I have my BA in psychology ...
and did not pursue an advanced degree because I disagreed with the pharmaceutical invasion. I figured I'd bide my time until analysis had found its place again ... who knew that it would happen so soon, and that this would be the catalyst?
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:03 PM
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8. What makes you think
the "pharmaceutical invasion" hasn't occurred already? Because THAT is the environment you will operating in after you get your Ph.D..

Gyre
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:33 AM
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16. Um, kind of the point ...
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 04:36 AM by PittLib
I graduated 6 years ago ... I haven't pursued it since.

On edit: Sarcasm. Look into it.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:56 PM
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3. That would assume................
that Psychologists believe in heaven, and hell for that matter. I'm willing to bet an overwhelming percentage don't.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:24 PM
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4. Hate to burst your bubble here but........
In general most psychologists, psychiatrists and therapists are absolutely nuts in one way or another. I worked in the field for years and more often than not the "Professionals" were far more warped than the patients. The only difference was they hid it better and therefore were able to function in a more socially acceptable way.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:56 PM
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6. So, maybe the goal of therapy is "to learn to hide it better?" n/t
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:50 PM
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7. In some ways that's correct
Hence the trend to now call it Behavioral Health instead of Mental Health. The importance in on how we act as opposed to how we feel.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:04 PM
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9. I don't mean to be rude. But the way you say "most are absolutely nuts"
leads me to believe you don't know what you are talking about. I got a degree in psychology and worked in the field and there are some flakes, but by and large the people in the field are hard working down to earth people.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:34 PM
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10. Apology
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 05:41 PM by The empressof all
I probably sounded stronger in that inflection than intended. I am in agreement that the vast majority of folks in the field work extremely hard and are very dedicated-especially those in the public sector. I didn't mean to imply they were psychotic. I was trying to convey that therapists in general don't have all the answers and have just as much turmoil, stress and anxiety in their own lives as everyone else.

I think what you may have picked up on is my disappointment in the field in general which has moved in directions that I find distasteful. I have seen too many Professionals who have needed to compromise on core values which led them into the field in order to stay employed. Many work in highly stressful situations for mediocre pay and need to work with ever increasing demands for productivity. In my own particular work I have seen caseloads and paperwork requirements triple in the past 10 years. That alone has increased work stress and anxiety for most of my colleagues who find that they need to be excessively concerned with requirements and regulations as well as patient care.

You've encountered me at a period of extreme burnout in my career-hence I need to remember that my sarcasm and cynicsm are not universialy shared.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:08 AM
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14. That's cool.
:toast:


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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:32 AM
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15. Ditto. That's a pretty broad brush you painted with.
I'm a member of the APA and my only problem is that I masturbate while looking at pictures of toadstools.
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:47 PM
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5. haha
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:06 PM
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11. Hey..psychologist checking in here!
yeah..they are mostly nuts in the profession..hahahahaha! Its the training though..it has a medical orientation for the most part. I am retired now, but had a private practice in the states. I would not even see a person who was on drugs..well..maybe antidepressants that were situationally used for short periods...following a traumatic event in their lives..like death of a spouce, etc. It is difficult to find a good therapist..but for those of you who have the calling..please continue...the fact that it is so hard to find a good therapist is all the more reason to continue..and u will be needed more and more in the years to come.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:48 PM
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12. people use psychology, like Christianity, conveniently under the guise
of medicine and religion,professionalism.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:03 PM
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13. Geeeez!!!
i used to think that my patients were the sane ones...it was the rest out there who believed that they did not ever need guidance to find themselves and seperate themselves from the fucked up lies that were fed to them about what they believed and who they were...not those are the true nutcases...ha
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