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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:30 AM
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Yesterday, I posted that it is possible for us to provide universal
healthcare, social security and free education upto university level if we abndon our militarism and dreams of hegemony.I realized today that there is a fatal flaw in my argument.That post assumed that we now have a political system that cares about our people's well being.That is so far removed from reality that I am now forced to admit that U.S. administrations since Reagan have even abandoned the pretense of caring about the well being of our own people. This has been brought about by the well off majority in our country seeing these people as a liability, like an accountant looking at his balance sheet.This 20-25% of our population, made up of poor whites, blacks, hispanics, newly arrived immigrants, disabled people, old people constitute an underbelly of our country that the parties in power have decided no longer count.This is the reason for the massive tax cuts to corporations and the encouragement of businesses to move abroad so that corporations can have growth in their profits by catering to the surging economies of India and China.

This abandonment of the underclass is a blot on the Democratic Party which has been swayed by the DLC group.This traitorous group is essentially catering to the same clientele as the GOP.This is why they are eager to vote for tax cuts knowing fully well that the rationale for tax cuts ( increase in investments, so more jobs) is a
mirage.All that the tax cuts have accomplished so far is to fatten the bottom lines of corporations without producing any meaningful increases in jobs or investments.At the same time, it has made possible to cut all programs to meet the essential needs of the underclass under the guise of lack of money.

I have become very pessimistic that there is any politician in our country, Democratic or Republican, who will speak for the underclass.In our culture, these people are very effectively marginalized by the shame of being poor in what is essentially a rich country.They are constantly told it is their own fault that they are poor and the many ads on TV for luxury goods in glittering malls is a reminder of their failure.This is why they sense that no one speaks for them and do not show up at the elections which suits the GOP just fine.

I believe a true Democratic Party would assemble a coalition of liberal whites, Jews, Blacks,Hispanics,old people, Asians and others left out by our system and challenge the assumptions of the DLC cabal that speaks only the language of money.In that game they will fail because they are always going to play second fiddle to the GOP.
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whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:56 AM
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1. no matter how right
you are , things have a way of just staying the same , jr. has almost all the rich thinking the poor are lazy and do not have a place on this planet
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:05 AM
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2. The point of HAVING poor...
is to show just how rich and right YOU are. If there were no poor, the wealthy would have no one against whom they can judge their value.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:17 AM
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3. Brilliant! Url below for jiggering Budget items:US wealth $ 105 Trillion
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 06:46 AM by oscar111
now i must go read your orig post fm yesterday.

For supereasy jiggering the Fed budget, and incidentally learnig the true dollars to each item, go to

http://www.nathannewman.org/nbs

Began as a Berkeley U game. If you end up with a deficit, consider the total wealth, from this site, its bottom line:

http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/current/accessible/l5.htm

A RELIABLE source LOL.

My cost to end some problems , from various sources:

End all poverty with a $ten K supplement, from a WPA job for the healthy, from a free grant to the OWS.. Old, Weak, Sick.---> $300 Billion.

End all homelessness with return of all Section 8 Vouchers... 4 Billion.

End all hunger ... 12 million hungry,... cost 12 Billion.

Of course, the first item here would make some of the second and third unnecessary. But to be on the safe side, add all three for

$ 316 Billion to end misery in the USA.

Bush's 3 taxcuts totaled about 340 Billion. {Hundred, hundred, and corporate taxcut, hundred forty.}

Roll back those moronic cuts, and you end the really bad misery in our country.

With 24 Billion left over , nearly cut in half the time to do research for finding new cures for diseases.. NIH budget is 30 Billion.

Reaganomics taxcuts are a failure.
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--Wages are lower than when it began {adjusted for inflation}.
--Bush dropped wages $1500.
--Bush lost a million jobs.
--Total Job Shortage is 14 million, causing hunger and crime.
--Reaganomics caused mass homelessness and mass hunger.
--Year of the LEAST Reaganomics, '52, was a time of prosperity.
--Reaganomics destroys the economy because it destroys the middle and lower class.. the two that produce all.
%%%%%%%%%

Repair the middle and lower classes, and production rises.
Destroy them, production falls. Invest in the middle and lower classes to spark the economy.

FDR did that, using the idea of Keynesian economics. Pardon my spelling.

60 % of americans are in poverty at some point in their life. So the aid i noted above will protect many productive folks. Not to mention ending the debilitating worry of those who are above poverty but fear it daily.

"the poor are lazy" .
1. jobless and discouraged are 17 million.
2. Total job openings = only 3 million.
3. 17 minus 3 = 14 million who cannot possibly find a job, no matter what their education, no matter if all have PhD's.
"the poor are NOT lazy."
Proof .. job openings

http://www.bls.gov/jlt/

--bureau of labor statistics, PROJECT JOLT, table of openings levels.. shows only three million jobs nationwide

Clinton sec labor, r reich, advises this site, Natl Jobs for All coalition:

http://www.njfac.org

We should always have more jobs than folks looking. Always. Use share the work, as in France, or WPA, or provide new family farms... forty acres and a mule LOL. OK modify the last one.
Joblessness kills folks with hunger, homelessness {84,000/yr}.
Hunger leads to crime, which bugs us all.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:53 AM
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4. Thanks.Very valuable. I am even certain that this abandonment
of the poor, the old and the weak is intentional.If we as Democrats do not stand up to this now, we will regret it forever as the abandonment of IT workers that has followed will spread to higher end professions.Our corporations which have realized that they are uncompetitive in the world against the Germans and the Japanese are seeking to utilize Third World cheap labor to offset our so called higher labor costs. The tax cuts can be seen as a bribe by the GOP to get the fat cats to finance their elections in return for getting rid of the poor people's needs from the public discourse.Sort of like a protection racket of the Crime Syndicate.The wretched thing is that the Democrats under the DLC have bought into this game.
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