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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:17 PM
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Are You Like Me? Are You Praying for a Watergate-Style BushCo Meltdown?
Cuz I don't see any other way for these thugs to be defeated. The only thing that keeps me sane is the hope that this administration goes down in a great ball of scandalous fire.

Where is the whistle-blower?

Come out, come out, wherever you are.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:20 PM
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1. That's where I think it's headed
I think it all ends with prison sentences. They got too many investigations and reports put on hold so as not to influence the election. BTW, media whores, WITHHOLDING information is ALSO a way of influencing the election.

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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:21 PM
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Oh, hell yes.
I wasn't around for Watergate, but from what I've read and heard about it, the * administration, IMHO, has employed tactics many, man times worse.

If only we still had something akin to investigative reporting in this country, there'd be no way in hell * would have been around for four more years.

This administration has hurt too many people, though. It only takes one person. After than, it wil be hard to stop the bleeding. Maybe then the majority of Americans will get the message.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:21 PM
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2. watergate gave us Gerald Ford and i fear votergate may give us
Dr Frist which is MUCH worse

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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:29 PM
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33. frist never live down torturing those cats!
usually this kind of thing (hypocritical hyper-concern for some unfortunate animal in the news) affects and excites a particularly dense part of the population, but in the case of 'cat killer' frist may they say 'let's roll!'
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:21 PM
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3. I've tried to console myself regarding the disastrous election that
maybe a higher authority might think it more just for Bush not simply to lose and go back to Crawford, but for him to be brought down in full disgrace and humiliation for his criminality, hubris and blasphemy, made to face the retribution of the Iraqi people and taking the repukes down with him.

A girl can dream can't she?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:21 PM
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4. History would indicate that there will be a meltdown and
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 05:22 PM by Cleita
they will eventually be discredited and dethroned. However, history also shows that when this happens, they try to take everyone with them. We have to attack them now in any way we can. Impeachment, war crime trials, anything before this destructive machine takes any more victims.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:21 PM
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5. I won't be upset if it happens
but I'm not praying for it.

I *do* think their actions area leading them down a primrose path. The cold harsh reality will be much better and longer-lasting than anything we could say in protest right now.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:54 PM
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26. The history of mankind is littered with the folly of well intentioned
extremists of all sorts. This is another chapter we are turning the page on... let's all become speed readers. ;)
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:21 PM
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6. been listening to AAR, have you?
I would love to see it myself and AAR will make you believe it could happen!
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:22 PM
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7. That's what I've been thinking...
I'm hoping for the house of cards to all fall down and this war to bite them in the ass....
Otherwise, I don't see the sheeple waking up any time soon.

:shrug:
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bo44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:23 PM
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8. It won't be long before the national whore press
feels safe enough to call out there abusers/pimps. Hopefully the blogosphere can facilitate an intervention.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:23 PM
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9. Where AREN'T the whistle blowers?
OK, they're not around during this election, but they've been defecting and informing on this administration since day one practically.

Unfortunately, the media plays them down as disgruntled ex-employees--much as we are painted as conspiracy theorists. Oh, another scandal, more proof of fraud, more proof of incompetence? Pay no attention to the overall corruption behind the curtain. These are just glitches that happen in every government. :eyes:
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:26 PM
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10. That's why we need a WB with irrefutable evidence
something that cannot be chalked up to partisanship or disgruntlement.

Not that O'Neil and Clark didn't have compelling stuff; but we need THE SLAM DUNK.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:39 PM
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16. I know, I keep expecting someone to grow a heart.
Or even a brain. A conscience. ANYTHING!
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Edmond Dantes Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:07 PM
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31. And when the whistleblower loses their job and faces
trumped up criminal charges in retaliation for their bravery, how deep will you dig into your pockets to help him/her out?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:11 PM
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32. Anyone high up enough in this election to have proof positive
probably has enough dough to cover it.

You're talking to someone who lost a job due to whistleblowing. Having a conscience ain't cheap. But I knew what the consequences would be and still decided to do it--single parenthood and all. It wasn't easy but I could sleep at night.
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Edmond Dantes Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:40 PM
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35. Do I know you?
You were rehired after 9/11--yes?
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:29 PM
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11. They have learned alot of tricks since then.
In Nixon's day the media was 1/100 the size and owned by 30% more companys......Look how they swept Iran Contra under the rug . Nixon & Reagan are gone and they were small frys compared to this mess.We just have to work harder now..

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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:36 PM
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14. But we have the internet(s) now
Which we didn't have back then. It makes it much easier for groups like DU to form, and share whatever information they have.
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alterfurz Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:33 PM
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12. yup. they've got absolute power now...
...and term two will feature absolute corruption--so extreme that even the "moral values" voters will begin to see them for what they really are. So in the immortal words of our beloved pResident, "Bring it on!"
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:36 PM
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13. They control the Senate, House, and courts, give up on that hope!
It's a false hope. If Bush peed on someone on camera he would not be impeached or step down.
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:48 PM
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23. Yes, but even the members of Nixon's own party turned on him
I'm just sayin....
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Cornedwine Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:38 PM
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15. Lets make it happen
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:44 PM
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17. Oh yes!
I thought Watergate would be the worst WH scandal I'd see in my lifetime. I'd actually enjoy sitting through the first 21st century WH scandal hearings.
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kristndem Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:45 PM
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18. Well Yeah
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 05:46 PM by kristndem
:P
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:45 PM
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19.  The shock of November 3rd...
for me, was mixed with an immediate anger and determination to push on for election reform and lobbying for impeachment.

However, the NEXT morning I woke up terrified (for the first time) about possible terrorism in the wake of Smirk's election. The message "we" had just sent to the rest of the world:

-Americans "re"-elected a man who will attack without proof or provocation, but would like you to give up your nukes.

-It's OK with us that Smirk shows complete disrespect for countries that disagree with us.

-We're not bothered by BushCo's incompetence, lying, cheating, or mismanagement of Iraq to the point of letting hundreds of pounds of explosives slip into the hands of people who will use them against our own troops.

-Americans don't find it disturbing that our pResident claims to get messages from God. (Isn't this called psychosis?) And this clown has his trigger finger on OUR nukes!

I feel a real sense of urgency to get this crazy person out of the White House!
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americanwomanone Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:46 PM
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20. IF ONLY!!
That could happen!
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:47 PM
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21. Why It Won't Happen
Let's say today we find out that Bush authorized and approved the outing of Valeri Plame. I can't think of a single Republican in the House of Representatives who would be willing to step up and begin writing articles of impeachment.

And let's just say, miracle of miracles, we get articles of impeachment approved, and then the trial starts in the Senate. There won't be 2/3 of the Senators to vote for removal from office.

What we have now is unaccountability. There are no more checks and balances in this government.
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NurseLefty Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:48 PM
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22. BIG problem though...
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 05:48 PM by NurseLefty
... and a big difference between Watergate and now. Back then, the Dems had majorities in both the House and Senate, which meant they had control of committees such as the Judiciary. The result is that they had the numbers and power to draft a resolution of impeachment.
Fast forward to now. Congress and its committees are controlled by the republicans.
Essentially, a prayer is futile for any kind of impeachment of Shrub so long as the repubs control Congress. Sad, but true... :hurts:
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fidgeting wildly Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:49 PM
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24. I watched "All the President's Men" the other day.
Gave me hope. :) Plus, it's a great film.

We can't depend on the media anymore, though. This time, it's up to us to make it happen.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:50 PM
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25. They could sacrifice virgins on the White House steps and ...
... the Republicans wouldn't protest.

I'm not expecting a meltdown. You want public opinion against the Bushista regime? Then take regular action: erite at least one LTTE to a carefully chosen paper, on a carefully chosen topic, every week for the next four years etc etc.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:55 PM
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27. I can hope for it, but I won't sit idly by and wait for it. n/t
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:55 PM
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28. I hope, I hope, I hope
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:55 PM
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29. Well, I'm not praying for it
but I agree it's the only way they're going down.
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 05:58 PM
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30. i'm afraid another country will have to step up and bring down
this group of thugs.

overseas media may break a story u.s. courts can't ignore. a business contact overseas may start singing like a bird and reveal criminal activity. again, something so big and so heinous u.s. courts can't ignore it. or it may be something as simple as a bullet or a bomb from a foreign country.

i doubt that what takes down bush will come from within our borders. the media is fat and happy in the pockets of the bush bunch. members of congress are either in bed with or afraid of them. and the patriot act has such a tight noose around us that i could probably do time just for what i wrote in the previous paragraph.

though right now we've managed to become both the laughingstock and the bully of the world, a lot of people around the world still like us and our country. maybe for the times we chipped in to help other countries, people in other countries could help us.

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hux4000 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:00 AM
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34. done
kick
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