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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:10 AM
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How awful, 58 soldiers killed in Iraq according to "This week" on
ABC, 55 names released by the pentagon and yet the media sits back and say nothing but the voters voted on moral vales in the election. Sorry moral values when they care only about themselves and care nothing about the 1000,s of Iraqi's and US soldiers but abortions and Gay marriage lead in their small minds. How sad, so sad.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:14 AM
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1. Sadly,
3 from Wisconsin too.......

so sad....not just for the fallen Badgers, but all of them.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:14 AM
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2. I just saw that, I was shocked
to see the death toll "mysteriously" double over the weekend. Another friday night dump by the * administration. Shameful. :grr:
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MaryH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:17 AM
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4. I just saw 32 soldiers killed in Falluja and 1600 Iraqis.
And now we are moving on to Mosul.

So, we kill all of the unbelievers - that is the plan?

And they have found the body of a Western woman. There were two Western women that had been kidnapped.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:16 AM
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3. It's moral to kill the infidel--
Just as the death penalty is moral--so that freedom can be defended. I think that is the way the recent logic of Bush goes.
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MaryH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:18 AM
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5. I'm not sure there is any logic to all of this.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:24 AM
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9. Bush's logic is the logic of the PNAC
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 10:24 AM by Malva Zebrina
and Leo Strauss, and Machiavelli
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:19 AM
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6. Remember when it was 0 per day and then maybe 1??
This was never going to become another VN we were told. Won't be in Iraq one minute longer than we need to be we were told. All lies,all bullshit...
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DougieZero Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:20 AM
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7. Eh..
People don't really care, a kid who I went to school with was killed this week in Fallujah... The local newspaper was filled with quotes by people who were jealous that he died for his country and not them.


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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:24 AM
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8. "He died for us. He died for our freedoms."
A quote from the sister-in-law of a dead soldier from Illinois, with a rather crazed smile on her face.

I know people need to find comfort somehow, but it's getting really difficult to feel sympathy for these people.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:37 AM
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14. How did his death make her free? Our freedom was lost when
the US invaded Iraq. Sometimes I think half this country is made up of zombies and the brainwashed. This "war" will not end until our entire military is destroyed.
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DougieZero Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:39 AM
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15. Yeah
We've had 5 or 6 locals KIA over in Iraq. That "fighting for our freedom" talking point works really well... I know, I know We are already free But it sells real good for some reason.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:28 AM
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11. Your right,they won't care unless they think their kid could be next..
Or maybe their grandkid,then the shit hits the fan like in the VN days. There is no way in hell Bush can sustain this mess without restarting the draft.

There going as far as recalling guys who were in the military 10-15 years ago,my brother sent me a clip about a guy in Oahu that was recalled after being HD back in 1995.

He got one of them there "trial lawyers" and isn't going to serve one FUCKING day in Iraq.

David
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:29 AM
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12. that's just demented
as if now he gets the 72 virgins. what a scary time for this country.
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:12 AM
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20. I can understand....
...that true bravery is to be willing to die for your country. This means that you don't want to die, that you are scared shitless...but you are willing.

But what you stated, people who are jealous that they didn't get to die...how is this different than a suicide bomber?????
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:27 AM
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10. Everything word they say is a lie, inlcuding "and" and "the"
Mary McCarthy famously wrote of Lillian Hellman, "every word she writes is a lie, including "and" and "the." That's true of the bush junta and its running dog, Alawi.

Over the weekend, I heard an NPR report on Falluja, in which Alawi was interviewed. After saying what a success the operation was, he was asked about civilian casualties. He said something to the effect that the civilians were very fortunate, because not a SINGLE civilian was killed in the fighting. How stupid do they think we and the Iraqi people are?
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:37 AM
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13. Isn't that amazing
We only kill terrorists. Fricking warmongers and the chimp smirks on. So proud of death and destruction.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:46 AM
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18. "Baghdad Bob? Is That You?"
The bombs have fallen only on the evildoers and praise be to Allah, not one innocent Iraqi has been harmed in the fighting. The 100,000 to 200,000 dead Iraqis were all Saddam loyalists.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:39 AM
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16. 412 airlifted to Lanstuhl Hospital in one week.

"And they are completely missing from the American tragedy unfolding this week at the military's Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, where most of the seriously wounded U.S. troops in Iraq are taken. As of early Saturday, according to hospital officials, at least 412 U.S. military personnel had been airlifted to the facility from Iraq since Monday, forcing them to add beds and expand their operations."
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:44 AM
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17. Lack of concern is shocking
Combat deaths are footnotes at best.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:51 AM
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19. With 58 dead, over 412 airlifted to the hospital,
there will be calls for more troops.
Then, the draft.
Good morning, Viet Nam.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 12:10 PM
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22. Many of those men would be dead if not for modern technology.
20 years ago there were no bullet resistant vests at all for frontline soldiers, and medical technology wasn't nearly as good as today. I'd say that at least 1/3 of those wounded wouldn't have made it as far as Germany if this was taking place in 1980.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:50 AM
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21. The American people who see no problem here are pathetic
Iraq and this Falluja attack is criminal. There is no reason for troops in Iraq at all. Bush is a war criminal. Thousands upon thousands of civilians killed including children so he can bring his oil buddies market $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Where does this end? The people need to step up. And when we do, the media needs to cover it in a serious light. When 100's of thousands march aginst a war, it is huge news. Not the Peterson verdict which gets wall to wall coverage. I'm sick over all the loss of life in Iraq.
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