I'm having a hard time today not becoming overwhelmed with rage and hatred

[jobycom]

600 "insurgents" dead, according to CBS, and they admit the numbers may be low. There may be as many as 3000 insurgents in Fallujah, and if our military says 3000, you know it's 5K.

I don't know if they are distinguishing civilians from insurgents, or if they are just counting each body as an insurgent, but they estimate that "most" of the 300,000 citizens of Fallujah have fled. Remember, to these bloody thugs 51% is a mandate, I'd hate to guess what "most" means to them. Al-Jazeera, in much better shape to know, estimated 100,000 remained. We are raining bombs on the city, spraying bullets, and there are reports we are using some kind of chemicals. Maybe just pepper spray, I hope, but with BabyKiller Bush, I don't know.

Meanwhile the news is all about Arafat, Veteran's Day, and the tragic death of ONE veteran in Boston.

These people did not have to die!! There is still no reason for the Iraq invasion, and even less for the Iraqi occupation! I will not fly the flag today, I will not fly it again nor stand for the Anthem nor place my hand over my heart and recite the Pledge, until Bush is imprisoned for his crimes. Right now I am raging at our country, at our media, at the 51% who voted for Bush, at the 49% who aren't in the streets screaming for the war to stop. I hate our flag. If I could draw at as I see it would be hanging limp, and the bottom of it would be morphed into a child's hand, dripping blood.

I hate our media, who have sold their souls and betrayed the sacred trust our nation's Founders gave them. I hate historians for soft-peddling the sins of this country, from Columbus to Andrew Jackson to Segregation, for not explaining what lynchings were, for not explaining the genocide of the original owners of this land. Those historians have helped in the brainwashing, have helped convince America that we are the standard by which morality is judged.

I keep picturing the Iraqi friends I went to college with, who taught me a little about Islam, who ate and drank with me. How many of them are dead now? The serious young man who informed me he couldn't eat fig newtons because they contained lard? The beautiful young woman who smiled wickedly when she talked about the seemier stories of the Qur'an, or the Bible, and whose quick laugh ignited the room? Are they dead now, blown into bloody fragments? Is her smile just a detached piece of flesh and bone? Have they had children who are dead now? How many has Bush slaughtered? How many have watched loved ones blown apart by Bush's bombs, by Bush's bloodlust?

This is not America. There is no country here to love anymore. The country I once loved is gone, drowned in a sea of blood and enslaved by the lies of a greedy corporate media.

I've always been the one to shout out that we can't leave the counry, that we have to stay and fight for what we know is right, that it is our responsibility to fix this nation. But I don't know if I can do it. I don't know if I can stay here, as we sink deeper and deeper into our own Third Reich, behind our own half-wit Fuhrer. I just can't do anything now but rage and write.

And I don't believe I have the right to feel better, anymore.

[LynzM]

1. I'm having a hard day, too...

:hug: I don't know what to tell you, because I agree with you on many points, but I will send some hugs your way...

[7th_Sephiroth]

2. thier useing white phosperous

thats a war crime

[billyoc]

11. OMFG, you're right!

White Phosphorous and napalm are both against the Geneva Convent- ah, shit, never mind. :(

[drunkdriver-in-chief]

17. Explain that - what does white phosphorous do? -eom

eom

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

23. It gets under your skin and reignites

So, days after the battle, our beloved military's victims will still be bursting into flames.

[IrateCitizen]

30. It spontaneously combusts when exposed to oxygen

So, the only way to remove it is when immersed in water. Otherwise, while surgery is being performed, it will simply burst into flame and burn the flesh of the victim until it is completely spent.

[the other rick]

40. Actually

it burns underwater, too. You have to smother it with mud or let it burn

[aquart]

3. Shit.

Not watching the news so I didn't know. Shit.

Shit.

[charlyvi]

4. I've been having hard days since Nov 3.

I wish I could say something to ease your pain. But I don't know what it could be, other than you have friends here, good friends who know the stakes. We care.

[jobycom]

5. November 3rd just made me mad.

Nothing like I'm feeling now.

[livinbella]

9. I know exactly what you mean

and we are not the only ones: this country is being torn apart

[charlyvi]

21. November 3rd

broke my heart. I still haven't gotten mad yet. I hope I will soon, but so far I'm still grieving.

[Gyre]

33. Everybody I consider a friend is in a funk.

However, it's really disturbing for freepers when they see me being so upbeat. Nihlism is really underrated as a psych-op weapon against our oppressors.

Gyre

[Ripley]

6. It does seem impossible to fight this.

Yet there are millions of people who feel JUST LIKE WE DO!

How the hell do we get organized to fight? Forget the damned Democratic Party. They lost all credibility with me.

[Helga Scow Stern]

16. Not if we keep pressing for the truth and accountability!

This is the time. We have momentum, the systems with MoveOn, etc. are in place. There is no stopping us now. They made a big mistake when the stole the vote during an election when more people cared about voting than ever. The power is with us, if we accept it now. This is what a democracy is all about. History is in the making. We just have to keep pressing for the truth and accountability in our elected officials. All of them.

[benburch]

7. Listen to some Mike Malloy!

The rage and anger will wash over you and you'll feel right again.

[papau]

8. 200000 of 300000 fled, 9000 of 10000 "insurgents"fled-Dead male over 16 is

an insurgent.

[jobycom]

13. That's a lot of insurgents. A lot of people to kill.

So who are we trying to save?

[Gyre]

31. So many brown people to kill

so little time! Oh yeah, the anti-christ's got 4 more years to inflict agony on the world. Do I hear a hallelujah?

Gyre

[wiggs]

35. I wish this point would be made more often.

Our media has once again not even tried to get to the bottom of the damage we are doing over there.

Half of the country is under 18 years of age. How many insurgents in Fallujah are foreigners? Not many I bet. How many are angry 15 year olds who are out there because their brothers, fathers, or sisters were killed? Why haven't we heard from anybody what is on the insurgents' minds? Al Zarqawi doesn't represent them...he represents the wider fundamentalist Islamic terrorists. What compels teenagers and young men to virtually throw themselves under the marching feet of the US army in futile resistance? Anger. And probably a hope that their sacrifice will inspire others to resist.

There has never been an honest discussion of the devastation we are causing in terms of deaths, injuries, physical disruption, etc.

As Scott Ritter predicted, if we invade Iraq we will have 23 million insurgents resisting us. Does wiping out Falluja, and Ramadi next, quell insurgency or create more anger?

[Warren DeMontague]

10. We did what we could. It is out of our hands, unfortunately.

Now, at least, the lines are clear. My suggestions? We protest to stop this unjust war, bring the troops home, end the killing. We demand accountability from our government and our media, even if those demands fall increasingly on deaf ears. We stand up for peace and kindness and compassion because the world needs us to do so more than ever. It's not much, but it's all we can do. And remember that you are not alone. There are millions of us.

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[jobycom]

14. Not a solution I'd welcome

I have friends in uniform over there, too. Hell, who knows, some of my friends may have killed others of my friends.

[Bridget Burke]

41. Good imitation, but not quite good enough.

Yes, you're really quite the little far-left liberal America hater, aren't you?

[drunkdriver-in-chief]

15. We need to call bush a MASS-MURDERER

Once again, democrats are too nice to tell the truth and america is going down the tubes because of it. Let the rw loonies just try and justify what bush is doing to a country that has never done a thing to us. Bush is a psychopath and we need to say it.

[Helga Scow Stern]

19. Yes, we all need to start telling and insisting on the truth....

otherwise we'll all be too depressed to move.
Write letters to all the media you can find. Do it every day. It beats feeling powerless, and it does make a difference.

[jobycom]

20. I was saying Bush was a psychopath since he was governor

I told people in 2000 that Bush was incompetent and evil, that he would start wars, that he would be unable to defend us from terrorist attacks, not to mention leading us into recession.

Just before the Iraqi invasion I told people there were no WMDs, that Bush would wait for a year then admit that he had been fooled.

I've predicted every damn thing that lying, murdering, traitorous psychopath did, but the people around here keep voting for him.

The nation is the psychopath now. 51% of them voted to commit genocide.

[jmowreader]

18. You saw Full Metal Jacket, right?

Remember the door gunner? "Anyone who moves is a VC. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC." That's the game we're playing in Fallujah--everyone's an insurgent.

[truth2power]

22. Extraordinary post, Joby! Thank you.

I too feel the rage. While walking the aisles in the supremarket, I detest the stupid pod people around me. Yes, some may have voted for Kerry, but given that I live in Ohio, chances are around 99.9% they voted for that insect.

I am just waiting for someone to start something with me, because I think my rage could drive me to actually lay them out on the floor. (And I'm a 5 foot tall female). I feel like saying, "Just don't fuck with me right now!" Stupid a**holes! If there's a God, s/he will call us to account for this! :cry:

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

24. Thanks for saying it

I have trouble talking about my feelings about Falluja, without writing that which must not be written.

[donsu]

25. the times call for rage - rage and action

nt

[jobycom]

26. What action are we going to take?

March on DC? March in each of our cities?

I want action. I'm not sure how to start it.

[donsu]

27. all actions, any actions - where ever, when ever -agitate - nag- act out

talk it up

dispute

call them out on their crimes

name their names

point fingers

agitate

become the honest media, be it text pinned to a bulletin board, local radio show or a national shout out, whatever, BE THE MEDIA

[Javaman]

28. Now that moron has been reappointed, the war just ain't big news anymore..

Or so they will have you think

[Gyre]

29. They envy us our freedoms.

Sure they do.

Gyre

[donkeyotay]

32. thank you for this post, for saying much that I'd like to say

I'm so angry I'm barely coherent. Every time someone articulates what I feel, it helps.

I'm still holding out a hope. It's a small one. I'm all for protests and boycotts, general strikes... whatever. But if we can't get find effective opposition to what America has become, then I see the ultimate boycott as being leaving. Discussion about this has absolutely torn my family apart.

[one_true_leroy]

34. rage and hate are incapacitating....

Move yourself through compassion and love, not through hate. I believe that when we do good, but it is motiviated by hate, greed, or anger, the deed is eclipsed by the intent. All the great spiritual leaders moved from compassion, not anger at their leaders. my two cents...

[kalibex]

36. Thing is...

...this much hate and frustration, especially towards 'the other side' shows (IMO) that the 'divide & conquer' tactics are working.

There's a way out of this, but demned if I've quite sorted it out yet...

[jjanpundt]

37. I run the gamut from rage to despair. We are the monsters

in Iraq. I wish that the American people would wake up to what we are doing - the invasion was illegal, we're using weapons banned by the Geneva Convention, we don't distinguish between civilian and Iraqi "freedom fighters" (I'm won't call them insurgents anymore) the list goes on and on. It's truly hearbreaking. :cry: I keep hoping against hope that some military person will stop and say "enough".

I guess I see now why * refused to honor the international war crimes commission. The entire military and * and his admin would be on trial, right next to Saddam.

[Hubert Flottz]

38. It is very sad!!!!

I can't stand to turn the TV on! I value the life of a stray animal more than these monsters who lied to start this thing in Iraq, value human life!

MORALS MY ASS! Where is the morality in what these people are doing, or in the people who voted for more mass murder? I hope Jerry and Pat choke on their FREE fried chicken!

[jpgray]

39. I think most of the insurgents have bugged out by now

This is just Bush kicking the object he stubbed his toe on.

[antigone382]

42. Like Donsu said

BE THE MEDIA!

it will make you feel better.

Yours is an honest post, jobycom. You are not alone. We are many and our hearts ARE being heard. Good will win.:hug:

Like you, I have moments of intense anger toward the Freeple People. Instead of riding around fuming, I posted my sentiments on my vehicle. I am showing them the maimed Iraqi babies. I am showing them the fallen soldier, deprived of body armor because of their greed for tax cuts. I am challenging their belief systems.

Today, some men got really pissed. That's how I know it's working, nagging at their dirty, rotting souls. One White Self-Righteous type pulled up next to me and made a threatening face. Last week, I would have given him a one-finger salute.

But the freedom of having my sentiments displayed makes me feel a sense of peace. Now, I make the sign of the cross and hope for the best. That White guy got an index finger wagged at him instead. "God's gonna get you" I mouthed, like Granny might say to a wayward neighbor kid.

I renounced my Christianity because of these bigoted Pharisees. But I'm not letting them hijack the Jesus I grew up loving. They can't turn him into some Jesus d'jour- one day carrying an M-16, the next day aiming it at gay people. And that has fired me up to be even MORE like he was before they rewrote him.

I feel peace speaking my mind. Just remember, get to a calm place before you go off on someone. Quiet confidence crumbles even the best bluff. :evilgrin: