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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:24 AM
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Man-hating, lesbian feminazis
Fellow DUers, I come here today with a confession. It shames me to say that it has become obvious to me that I'm dangerously out of touch. In all my years of living, working and playing in an urban area, travelling to different states and different countries, I have never met a man-hating lesbian feminazi.

I know many feminists - and I hope you're sitting down for this part -some of whom are not women. I know lesbians, some of whom are feminists. I don't know anyone who hates an entire gender, though I do know a few who have sworn off a gender - usually this is after being unceremoniously dumped - but it never lasts very long. I know no nazis, femi or otherwise. Would I recognize one if I saw one? Like say, would she be sporting a pink swastika? Do they only come out after dark?

Man-hating, lesbian feminazis seem to evoke fear and outrage in certain circles, and for the invective that's heaped on this elusive group, I wonder what it is they do. Do they steal straight women out of their beds at night and convert them? If they are so numerous and wield so much dreadful power, why don't they have a spokesperson? Like say, a lefty version of Ann Coulter?

Do these beings exist? Should I buy stock in toasters?

So share with me if you will your lesbian man-hating feminazi horror stories. I really need to know what I've been missing all these years.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:27 AM
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1. You know ...
I've never actually come across one, either, but I thought it was because, being a woman, I was unable to spot them in the wild.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:32 AM
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5. So you haven't been recruited? Up Here in NH they have a booth at
the mall. Although I am not a member, my understanding is there is a $15.00 fee to join, mostly for processing your application and the blood work to ensure you were born a woman. After that you get 1/2 price beer night on Wednesdays so you can get liquored up and beat up guys.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:35 AM
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7. You got cheated. We give free tattoos in Florida.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:40 AM
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14. No! They've never tried to recruit me.
I'm feeling left out and offended, now that you mention it! Am I not good enough? Darn!
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:45 AM
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17. Guess you are just not filled with enough hate. Work on it.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:07 AM
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24. * and Co are helping me with that. ;) nt
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:01 AM
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22. Half-priced beer????
I'm goin to the mall at lunch, baby! :evilgrin:
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:29 AM
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2. I've only heard one account of one:
My dad was in New York, quite a few years back, and he held the door open for a woman who proceeded to chew his head off.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:34 AM
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6. How did he know she was a lesbian?
;-)
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:39 AM
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11. He didn't say, I just assumed that part on my own :)
eom
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:42 AM
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15. I know. I'm just poking at you.
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:46 AM
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19. I know you were poking :)
I was poking too :) I have no idea if the woman was lesbian or not, in fact, I hadn't considered it until your post. :)
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:30 AM
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3. You have to look for the clues:
Subarus
Birkenstocks
Flannel shirts
Leg or underarm hair (hard to see under the flannel in the winter)

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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:37 AM
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9. I suppose you think muslims ride around town on camels...
spit out the kook-aid while there is still time.

how a woman dresses has nothing to do with what is in her head.

Having been in the gay community for years, I am always amazed at how little emotion lesbians devote to heterosexual men when compared to straight women.

I cannot count how many times I have had to listen to vile remarks about men from straight women, because once women find out I'm a lesbian, they feel entitled to spew all their hatred of the male sex and it's behavior/habits, etc, because they assume since I'm a dyke therefore I must be a "man-hater".

The "man-hater" is much more likely to be the woman lying in bed next to you than it is a woman in LOVE (which is what lesbianism is based on, love of women for women, and men are irrevelent to this) with another woman.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:40 AM
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13. Shit! I AM a Subaru driving
Birkenstock wearing, flannel shirt owning (little too warm yet) woman!

OK, biggest clue: I am a humorless Feminist.

Stephanie
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:37 AM
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33. well in that case.
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:37 AM by jdj
sorry I thought it was just a rep. of that sub-section of DU I call demographic underground, that likes to hang in the lounge and piss off women for a cheap thrill.

no harm intended.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:15 AM
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27. Well put, sistah.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:31 AM
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4. Isn't that a tropical fish? n/t
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:36 AM
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8. I've actually met a few in the course of my travels
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 08:37 AM by BareKnuckledLiberal
But they are rare -- very rare.

The worst I ever got from a MHLF was a brief lecture on the proper use of the words "woman" and "girl". It was more like a comedy bit than a chewing-out.

Maybe I'm just lucky, or have an innate skill for self-camouflage, like the autochthonous hunters of the bush (as opposed to the Bushes).

It's illegal to kill them, although poachers frequently hunt them for their hides, prized as aphrodesiacs by Conservative men in journalism and talk radio.

--bkl
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:40 AM
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12. i'm confused
a woman is considered a man-hater because she doesn't want to be called a "girl" once she's paying her own rent?

wow. We are Legion!!!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:50 AM
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39. Painful Legion(s)
I've gotten "feedback" from Women who insisted on being called Girls as well as Girls who insisted on being called Women -- and every combination in between. And if you think that's bad, I've known men who've wanted verbal deference far beyond my capacity to give without derisive laughter.

(And if you've taken this seriously, you've become far more serious than the post intended, especially since the punch line was about Conservative poachers. I offer half a mea culpa.)

--bkl
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:38 AM
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10. 100% Rush Limbaugh myth..
just like all the other garbage that spews forth from his evil pie-hole
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:44 AM
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16. Yep! But, I thought that was common knowledge on
DU, messed up and joked about it.

Just another stupid conservative myth to scare white men. Ridiculous.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:45 AM
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18. I actually have met a couple of man-hating women.
They weren't lesbian and they didn't at the time call themselves feminist. In each case, the women were reaching out to a feminist activist organization, NOW, even though they themselves were of the LDS faith and had thought feminists were the right hand of Satan.

They had, however, just been up against a judicial system during their divorce which either a) demonized them because they were stay at home moms and therefore couldn't retain custody of their children because they didn't have a means of financial support or b) demonized them because they had been work outside the home moms and therefore were deemed a "unfit" mothers because they didn't spend enough time with their children.

The husbands they were divorcing or who were divorcing them were held to no such standards and in the case of one, who had been having an affair during the marriage, used his girlfriend as "proof" that he could provide a good mother for their children. In each case, the husband was a "mover and a shaker" in his community, could afford high-priced sharks in suits, and had the backing of his church.

This was, for these women, their first taste of the U.S. judicial system, double-standards, and church and societal hypocrisy. A system guaranteed to create man-hating in women.







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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:46 AM
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20. Review Andrea Dworkin sometime
Feminist: definitely
Lesbian: I don't know. Sort of?
Man-hating: it may not be all that she's about, but she does spend time there.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:36 AM
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32. I've read just about all her work.
It's a paradigm, it's real, though alot of men can't handle it and resort to name calling about it.

She was brutally beaten by her husband for years, at the time I was reading her, she still had to watch her back, she was still in fear of him.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:48 AM
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35. So, She Hates ME???
While my sympathy for her and the disgust i would have for her abuser have no bounds, being a man hater because one guy acted a fool seems completely unjustified. However, your statement was a clear attempt to justify it. Curious, indeed.
The Professor
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:47 AM
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21. I met one once when I was in college
She was hitting on a friend of mine when I saw them sitting together in a restaurant. I said hello to my friend who smiled and waved me over, so I joined them at the table. The femanizi looked at me with pure hatred in her eyes. When I saw the film Independence day and it got to the part where the humans asked the alien what they wanted and the response was "We want you to die", I thought, I have heard that before. She then ignored me and continued to hit on my friend, talking as though I was not present. I was very uncomfortable, so I excused myself.

I really think we need serious legislation to prevent feminazi's from making people uncomfortable. The death penalty is to kind for these perverts. It was only through a strong Christian upbringing, and faith in Jesus that I was able to escape that experience and not fall into the arms of Satan and a life of depravity. Thank you, sweet Jesus, thank you. </sarcasm>
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:05 AM
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23. Horrible, horrible story
I'm glad you survived in one piece. :scared:

But one question remains, would you vote against your own self interests because of the damage done to you by that evil man-hating lesbian feminazi ?
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:38 AM
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34. Me, no. But my father would, and here is why
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:48 AM by kcwayne
My father is not a religious wacko, he is just your plain old fashioned cracker. He was raised by crackers. He didn't graduate from high school, and his parents didn't get beyond the third grade.

He is a small minded, uninformed, uncurious bigot. He hates minorities, foreigners, and gays. He hates women. He hates young people that don't look and act like they just got out of boot camp. He hates anybody that doesn't hate the people he hates.

He was a career enlisted military man. He never accomplished anything financially in civilian life because he was a working man. He now depends on social security, a small pension from the company he worked at for 20 years, and his Navy pension to survive. He is not poor or destitute, but finances are more of a challenge now that he needs to live in assisted care and cannot afford it.

But he would vote for Bush before Kerry because he thinks anyone who would support things like gay rights and minorities is a traitor. Even though Republicans are wacking away at his Medicare and Veterans medical benefits, which are crucial to his very existence, it means alot less to him than the idea of "letting blacks get uppity, or gays prancing around in polite society" to use his words. He looks at George Bush and sees a kindred spirit. He looks at John Kerry and Democrats and sees race traitors and faggots.

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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:48 AM
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36. Thank you for sharing that with us
Cultural conditioning runs deep, it would seem. Sad that the dark side pushes the right emotional buttons to exploit people like your dad.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:56 AM
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37. Well, he doesn't think he is being exploited
He thinks he is marching with brothers in arms, and that his personal interests are best served by keeping minorities repressed and segregated. His view is that if there were not so many blacks and illegal aliens on welfare, he would get better healthcare and pension support.

He understands that the politicians are playing us all for chumps, and that that cannot be changed. His interest is in seeing that he gets what is coming to him from whatever breadcrumbs are left over.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:10 AM
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25. I should be a man-hating lesbian femi-nazi ...
Given the shitty male role models I grew up with, and some of the horrid experiences I had as a teenager. But, well, I like hippie liberal guys too much :)

So I'm just a basic femi-nazi.


:hippie:
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peach720 Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:15 AM
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26. I have never meet one in my country either..but I have meet lots
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:17 AM by peach720
of women hating men!!!!! And they wouldn't profess to be gay either, gay men often treat women with respect and don't need to bully or degrade them.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:19 AM
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28. Ding ding ding
We have a winna!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:20 AM
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29. Some of my best friends are man-hating, lesbian feminazis
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:21 AM by htuttle
And I'll tell ya, the 'man-hating' and 'feminazi' parts are way overblown. In fact, as long as you don't try to pinch them in the ass or grab their breasts, you'd probably never even notice. You'd think they were run-of-the-mill lesbians.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:27 AM
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30. Aha well that explains a lot
They're 99% man-ignoring lesbian feminazis with the 1% active hate expenditure only kicking in when provoked by loutish behavior.

Neanderthals...they will not be ignored.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:32 AM
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31. Some people's entire ego is invested in being sexually desirable.
A certain pustule-assed loudmouth of our acquaintance no doubt finds it UNBEARABLE, even DEEPLY THREATENING, that a whole class of women have by definition no sexual interest in him -- so he demonizes them.

The only people I've ever heard insult men as a group are straight women -- just as straight men are far more likely to be sexist and insulting toward women than gay men.



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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:56 AM
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38. Me neither, and here in Manhattan
if you can't find one, I have my doubts that there are any. Then again, I'm not going around pinching asses and making rude comments. You know, just in case... :)
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