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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:42 PM
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So, What About Those Tanks In L.A.?
Someone must get to the bottom of this....

Does anyone have anything substantial on the presence of tanks at an L.A. protest.

Who sent them out...?
Who are they...?
Why didn't the media cover this...?

Any reliable information out there?

Thanks...-Paige
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:44 PM
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1. SWAT in LA has two APCs if menory seves
Bradleys
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:52 PM
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8. those weren't police APCs
or Bradleys

those were tanks.
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RivetJoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:41 PM
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15. They are NOT tanks!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:11 PM
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17. reviewed the photo
you're right

why do they need them for that kind of civilian use?

why is the dude in the turret dressed like military, not like cop?
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:53 PM
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9. 8 wheeled light armored vechicles - LAV-25's
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 12:56 PM by LeftHander


The headlights and weapon is consistent as is the structures on the side when the vehicle drives away....

Probably used as a reconissance, night capable....

no doubt they sent these in to eval the situation and do a threat assesment. Once satisfied they either leave or call in APC with 11 men in each to subdue the crowd.

I would guess that this a homeland security operation...

Being it occured in front of a federal building....

THose hitting the streets should get used to seeing these in the future.

Just ignore them and they will go away. If you attack them or start destroying property then the shit will hit the fan...
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:32 PM
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20. CHP has some of this stuff too
We had shiny blue ones with the gold CHP (Calif Highway Patrol) in Sacramento, Summer 2003, when the GMO protests were going on. There was another model with a rear hatch and capable of carrying troops inside and outside on rails.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:44 PM
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2. The video wasn't convincing enough?
You don't believe your own lying eyes?

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/118865_comment.php...

:shrug:
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:50 PM
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5. What????
What kind of question is that? Of course it's real and convincing...that wasn't my question.

I'm asking if anyone has additional information on this.
Specifically...

Who are they and who sent them out.

If this is, indeed, the first volly over the bow of free speeach, it requires immediate attention.

-Paige
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:00 PM
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10. Sorry,...
...there are some in other threads who appear to believe that this didn't happen, even with the video and photos. I assumed from your questions that you had doubts yourself.

For background, they HAVE brought out this sort of equipment in the last few years. Miami's FTAA protest last year saw a number of police/military vehicles like this on the streets.

I think it's done to both intimidate and provoke protestors.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:14 PM
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13. No Worries...
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:51 PM
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6. Thank you; I've been wondering where the info came from. n/t
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agingdem Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:51 PM
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7. Check out an old movie...
8 Days in May.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:01 PM
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11. That's 'Seven Days in May'
And it's a rough rewrite of the coup attempt against FDR (that was exposed by Smedley Butler, BTW).
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Dissent Is Patriotic Donating Member (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:44 PM
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3. Too new to post, so thanks.
Yes that's what I want to know, but I'm too new to post. Please someone let us know. e
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:46 PM
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4. Tanks for a bunch of chanting people with bucket drums???
This wasn't about protecting anyone.

This is about the scaring the shit out us.

And frankly, I'm scared.
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:04 PM
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12. I was looking the the JohnTitor stuff again...
and although I think it was a hoax, it does seem ratther prescient in that he claimed we'd be in a Civil War that would start around 2004-2005, but that we wouldn't totaly realize this until about 2008. That it would involve a series of "Waco-like events" if I remember the quote properly.

At any rate, tanks in the streets just a week after the election? One does have to wonder what this country is going to be like in four years.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:38 PM
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14. I think that went on a long time ago.
When the federal govt. gave money to help the police many got tanks. People talked about it at the time but I do not re-call when it was.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:41 PM
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16. to everyone who blindly supports the troops -- same troops will kill you
with no hesitation.

Kent State 1971, 4 students murdered by National Guard

If and when protesters hit the streets for real in large number -- bushie or one of the rabid Governors will call out the National Guard -- the same ones who are today learning urban warfare slaughter techniques in Iraq.

Taken as individuals there are good decent soldiers but taken as a mob -- soldiers are like any other mob -- dangerous.

We are back in the -- them against us -- period of the Nixon era. Troops are trained to do what they are told -- and enough of them WILL fire on unharmed citizens without hesitation -- the good guy troopers will avoid hitting humans -- but there are enough blood thirsty troops to kill enough protesting citizens to send a chilling message.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:18 PM
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18. Nothing sinister, really.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:20 PM
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19. I remember tanks in cities....
Tianamen



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