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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:27 PM
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Who are the red people?
Exit polls show small cities and small towns voted 50/50. Exit polls show those earning less than $50,000 voted Kerry. Those in cities voted Kerry.

Who went Bush? Suburban people and totally rural people, like farmers and ranchers. Those earning $50,000-$150,000. Higher incomes trended back to Kerry, up to the really rich.

Tax cuts and rural subsidies. And the villianization of the "Massachusetts liberal". Don't let them kid you into thinking there's these blocks of red counties or red regions voting on "moral values". There aren't. A "moral values" voter is just as likely to live in a McMansion in the suburbs as in rural America. If you really think it was the "moral values" driving their vote, well....
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:36 PM
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1. The rich here voted Bush.
My county was blue but just south in Williamson County is where the newly rich all live. The majority of them have big expensive houses, drive Hummers and SUVs and have kids in private schools and they always have a Bush-Cheney sticker on the bumper.
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:42 PM
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4. Yup. Same here. The rich fuckers. Okay not all rich are fuckers..
The neighbors to the left of me went for Bush. Although I don't personally talk to them, they have chimp yard signs all over the fucking place. The neighbor to the right of me also went for Bush. I know this because the woman talks about God all the friggin time and she freaks out and gives me dirty looks whenever my musician friends come to visit. Plus she was in a really chirpy mood after the election. The bitch even had a party, and didn't invite me of course. I hate her.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:38 PM
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2. I have driven across the country several times
From coast to coast about seven times and I've done several long road trips in between. If you have ever been to rural Nevada, North & South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, large areas of the other western states, there is just nothing there. No towns, just a whole lotta nothing and the towns that are there only have a couple of hundred people. I cannot believe that they are saying that the red states are calling the shots for the rest of America, there is simply nobody in the red states.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:01 PM
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8. This is why.....
...we ALL need to move to Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, etc......if we ALL move there, we can swing a few more elctoral votes to the blue....apparently it would only take about a handful of us......
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:39 PM
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3. let's see, who do i know voted Bush?
1) My uncle. Still works for Bush, knows him personally. makes pretty good money. Nice house in rich neighborhood. Been his lap dog for years -pukes-

2) A girl who had 2 kids from 2 different fathers, but that's ok -rolls yes-. she's against abortion anyway. Oh, and she and her kids live off an ugly ass paparazzi she uses for money. Yeah, she's got morals.

3) A girl I know whose husband is going to Harvard and interned in Washington last summer with lawyers there, oh and got plenty of extras in the lot too....free spa weekend, diners on the house, etc.... We know where this is going aren't we????
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prof_science Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:49 PM
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5. (i see red people)
I see them everywhere, from co-workers to my fundie uncle. Luckily, they're a minority in my life. Curiously, everyone I can think of who voted for Bush did so on those so-called "moral issues," and when I say that, of course I mean exclusively abortion and "dudes kissing."
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:56 PM
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6. The 3 Rs...the rich, the righteous, and the racist
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EdibleEgg Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:58 PM
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7. There are a lot more reds than I thought
They're everywhere... is stupidity contagious?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:22 PM
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9. Who's out of step?
In my state of WA, the more rural the county, the more votes Bush got.

The big cities went Kerry

I like to think the people out in the sticks are just that, out of the mainstream, disconnected.

It's interesting the news is trying to report it as just the opposite. We all know better. The media is in New York and California. This is the only time in the next 4 years those middle states are going to have a voice, because they are disconnected from the mainstream. Deciding "we're" the ones out of step with middle America is ludicrious. It's like saying we're out of step with our autistic child.

Middle America is out of step with the world.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:18 PM
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10. Look at the statistics
Did you do that? Cities went Kerry, I said that. But why don't you take some time and go look at the actual precincts in all the counties in Washington and see which ones voted which way. That's much more helpful to getting a handle on the situation then stereotyping everybody. The fact is, small towns and cities went 50/50. Suburbs went to Bush. If we just treat all Bush voters like hicks, we're never going to get anywhere.
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