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BBV: Help America Audit -- 5 Things You Can Do Immediately

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BBV: Help America Audit -- 5 Things You Can Do Immediately
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:15 AM by BevHarris
I was tipped off by a person very high up in TV that the news has been locked down tight, and there will be no TV coverage of the real problems with voting on Nov. 2. Even the journalists are pretty horrified. My source said they've also been forbidden to talk about it even on their own time, and he was calling from somewhere else. He was trying to figure out how to get the real news out on vote fraud.

This is a person I've worked with off and on for nearly two years, and the voice was so somber it really bothered me.

At any rate -- and perhaps, especially important due to the tipoff above, there are things you can do to take back America.

====================

We have a different list for lawyers, computer people, statisticians. But if you are a regular person like most of us, and want to help, here's what to do.

Please distribute: If you have not done so already, sign up at Black Box Voting -- http://www.blackboxvoting.org -- to audit the election and deal with vote fraud.

HELP AMERICA AUDIT: 5 Things You Can Do Right Now to Reclaim Democracy

You’re our greatest hope. If you choose to accept it, your job is to spread the word in order to build a fast-growing grass roots movement -- a voting integrity project so powerful that it cannot be mowed down.

1. BE THE MEDIA -- See below.

2. CRUNCH THE NUMBERS: Discrepancies please, and hurry. E-mail them to tips@blackboxvoting.org . Pass the word. Need source documents, too. ASAP. Follow your nose, or join the Black Box Scavenger Hunt: Pick a county. Look at small counties, as we are seeing many discrepancies in those. Look in any state. Get the official number of registered voters, Dem and Republican. Get the number of votes cast on Nov. 2, Republican and Dem. Make a grid like this, filling in the right numbers:

# reg. voters % # votes cast %
Rep 100 33% 150 50%
Dem 200 67% 150 50%
Totl 300 100% 300 100%

We can find out a lot from this procedure, very hard data, that will make a real difference. As soon as you have finished a county, e-mail it to us. Do as many counties as you can.

3. HAVE A HOUSE PARTY: Show the film “Votergate” (the real one, which you can download for free at www.Votergate.tv .) Organize “Be the media” actions and set up investigative teams to help dig up information like you have in #2. Timeline is NOW, to get action before seating the electoral college.

4. HELP CONNECT THE WIRES: Hook Black Box Voting (.ORG) up with powerhitters you know, people who can make things happen.

5. DONATE to any of 3 organizations: Black Box Voting (.ORG), the consumer protection group for elections; or the new recount fund (information upcoming, contact DU's Hedda_Foil), or send contribution to Votergate.tv (The REAL Votergate film, by Russell Michaels, Robert Carrillo Cohen, and Simon Ardizzone. There is another by someone else, make sure you get the right one.) The real VOTERGATE is the most powerful investigative film on this topic, and consequently it has been attacked and blocked repeatedly. They deserve your support.

“HOW TO BE THE MEDIA”

Don’t expect to see vote burglary on TV. To get the message out fast, you’re going to have to become the underground railroad. Do it now. Take pictures of each other doing it. Have house parties to show others how to do it. Here’s how to “be the media.”

BE YOUR OWN REPORTER: We will send you new information as we get it. We need your e-mail to get you on the list, so if a friend sent this to you, please shoot an email to crew@blackboxvoting.org to sign up.

Spread the information we send you to every blog, listserv, forum you know and throughout your personal network. Talk about it at work and to people you meet everywhere, lots, quickly, all the time.

SELF SERVE SOUND BITES: Frequent, very short messages to immediately increase public awareness. Assume you won’t see it on TV.
Put vote fraud related messages on:
- Yard signs
- Car windows
- Write them on duct tape and wear them
- Print REMOVABLE stickers and stick them on things:
- Bathroom door at the gas station.
- On telephone poles in the dead of night
- At bus stops
- On the back of bus seats
- Stick them into your junk mail and send it back via return mail
- Slip them into menus at restaurants
- Leave them in books at the bookstore
- Share new self serve sound bite ideas with us and we’ll send them out with new messages.

ELECTION “TRUTH TOURETTES”. Please excuse the political incorrectness, as it is not meant to be hurtful. It is for a good purpose. This the antidote to “watch what you say.” It is a good icebreaker at a party. Have your guests make up truths, like those below, and mix them into the conversation at surprise times throughout the party. Unexpectedly and urgently blurt them out:

Recount!
Electile Dysfunction!
Gotta audit-Gotta audit-Gotta audit
Florida!
--mathmatically impossible!--
Count all the votes! Count all the votes! Count all the votes!
Votefraud.
Paperballots! Handcounts!
--where’s my vote?--
Where’s the paper?
Feel free to interchange and mix it up, or even try a game where different people have to interject with different truths.
- WHO REALLY WON -- I DUNNO -- GOTTA AUDIT!

Also, here are more ideas.
- Magnetic signs for your car
- If you know a trucker, have them put a message in the window as they drive across the county.
- Make a patch and put it on the front of your baseball cap
- Carry a sign and stand in the window outside the Today Show

If we have to be our own media, so be it. We will not sacrifice democracy just because TV executive producers have a problem with this issue.

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   I've got your back, Bev!  NightTrain   Nov-08-04 12:06 AM   #1 
   I fucking like it.  Randi_Listener   Nov-08-04 12:06 AM   #2 
   You Do Say Fuck Alot.... LOL!  cryingshame   Nov-08-04 12:34 AM   #25 
      Not really.  Randi_Listener   Nov-08-04 12:42 AM   #31 
      Oh yes  gtrump   Nov-08-04 01:32 AM   #79 
      Randi Listener  dallan   Nov-08-04 12:16 PM   #203 
         Then you may want to study its many uses...  krkaufman   Nov-08-04 03:56 PM   #220 
         fuckin' A  neverforget   Nov-08-04 11:22 PM   #268 
      These are fucked times  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:11 AM   #166 
   Pooter folks on the way, Bev.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Nov-08-04 12:08 AM   #3 
   Sent money yesterday  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-08-04 12:10 AM   #4 
   Just The Fact That The Media Has Been "Locked Down" Is Proof  mhr   Nov-08-04 12:14 AM   #5 
   My thoughts exactly!  demo@midlife   Nov-08-04 02:24 AM   #90 
   You bet your sweet ass.  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 02:57 AM   #101 
   Nominate this thread for the front page!  eleny   Nov-08-04 12:16 AM   #6 
   Done, thanks for that very simple reminder  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-08-04 12:19 AM   #7 
   What has the journalists horrified?  Cobalt Violet   Nov-08-04 12:20 AM   #8 
   The lockdown.  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:25 AM   #12 
      Whoa! I know some journalists and...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Nov-08-04 12:36 AM   #27 
      Yup. Others are concerned also  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:41 AM   #30 
         Ladies and Gentlemen:  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Nov-08-04 12:44 AM   #37 
         Can the musicians get this out into the mainstream?  Bushneedstogo   Nov-08-04 12:57 AM   #49 
         My sig line shares a similar sentiment, sort of  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:20 AM   #172 
         What I don't get is what is so wrong with reporting the truth?  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 03:01 AM   #103 
            and worse  signmike   Nov-08-04 04:51 PM   #222 
         Print media has been locked down, too?  txindy   Nov-08-04 12:47 AM   #39 
         Print media is a bit muffled, but not locked down. Radio alive and well  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:56 AM   #48 
         Will do  txindy   Nov-08-04 12:59 AM   #54 
         Any Howard Stern listeners out there?  demo@midlife   Nov-08-04 02:28 AM   #93 
         Maybe a LTTE would work?  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 03:03 AM   #105 
         A letter like that would be wonderful  txindy   Nov-08-04 08:34 AM   #153 
            I've been so busy with my CD that I forgot about the LTTE  Ladyhawk   Nov-09-04 06:54 PM   #284 
         The Economist/ Respected  rmf   Nov-10-04 11:16 AM   #295 
         Local radio is nothing but right-wing bluster. Sorry. :(  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 03:02 AM   #104 
         I don't care for him but you might consider contacting Howard Stern  RapidCreek   Nov-08-04 04:03 AM   #125 
         Exactly! The US media has been given their 'marching orders" per se...  Spazito   Nov-08-04 01:08 AM   #63 
         Well, thank you, Canada!  txindy   Nov-08-04 01:14 AM   #70 
            Try this source for foreign media information....  Kadie   Nov-08-04 01:18 AM   #72 
               Oh, that link is GREAT! Thanks!  txindy   Nov-08-04 01:24 AM   #74 
         They have been reporting it a bit  ballcap1776   Nov-08-04 11:08 AM   #195 
         Yes it has  danishcycle   Nov-08-04 01:25 PM   #209 
         So there is something that will hit a nerve  Ducks In A Row   Nov-08-04 01:12 AM   #67 
         What the hell are these people thinking?  mountainvue   Nov-08-04 01:18 AM   #73 
         It's like they think our tinfoil hats are too tight or something...sigh nt  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 03:04 AM   #106 
         Do they not realize their combined power and strength?  RFK2   Nov-08-04 01:34 AM   #80 
         yep  grasswire   Nov-08-04 02:01 AM   #85 
            A sad and SICK irony  RFK2   Nov-08-04 02:41 AM   #97 
            The Corporate Media Doesn't Care  RedEagle   Nov-08-04 10:19 AM   #189 
            The media are owned by Conservatives  ailsagirl   Nov-10-04 08:43 PM   #299 
         We were at a party at a theatre election night  illuminaughty   Nov-08-04 02:25 AM   #91 
         i noticed it too...  michigandem2   Nov-08-04 10:36 PM   #266 
         Me, three...  Zookeeper   Nov-09-04 02:01 PM   #282 
         Keith Olbermann said on his blog today (yesterday now) that he was  shelley806   Nov-08-04 02:35 AM   #95 
         More like going to DIScount voter fraud on Mon-Tues  SoCalDemocrat   Nov-08-04 04:41 AM   #128 
            If you look at Olberman's blog entry...  JDWalley   Nov-08-04 04:53 AM   #130 
         B.S.  slutticus   Nov-08-04 11:16 PM   #267 
      Bev, it's time for journalists to reclaim themselves  BernieBear   Nov-08-04 02:33 AM   #94 
      There were THREE stories in the Charlotte Observer  jdjkkse   Nov-08-04 08:37 AM   #155 
      I read those stories too, jdjkkse  arnheim   Nov-08-04 08:55 AM   #163 
      Check out this site Bev  AlexHamilton   Nov-08-04 07:26 PM   #237 
   graphic artists?  deek   Nov-08-04 12:23 AM   #9 
   see my post ----- plus cd labels  rchsod   Nov-08-04 12:33 AM   #22 
      I was asking for a file with the address labels made up  deek   Nov-08-04 01:11 PM   #207 
   Thank You !!!  Marjorie Grisak   Nov-08-04 12:23 AM   #10 
   Thanks, Bev.  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 12:24 AM   #11 
   Thank you, Bev for the update...  hlthe2b   Nov-08-04 12:26 AM   #13 
   I've always suspected such media lockdowns  berni_mccoy   Nov-08-04 12:27 AM   #14 
   They said this is the worst lockdown since the war in Iraq started  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:29 AM   #18 
   This has been forwarded to my list  DELUSIONAL   Nov-08-04 12:28 AM   #15 
   I have a good idea who your source is..  SeveneightyWhoa   Nov-08-04 12:28 AM   #16 
   Am sending it out. Thanks Bev*  shance   Nov-08-04 12:42 AM   #32 
   Keith Olbermann plans to talk about it on his MSNBC show Countdown  Ducks In A Row   Nov-08-04 12:28 AM   #17 
   They backed out of it. Unless they just rescheduled it.  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:31 AM   #21 
      Hmm, I wonder what he think of all the lead-pipe cinch nonsense ...  Ducks In A Row   Nov-08-04 01:07 AM   #62 
      that's sickening  Nordic   Nov-08-04 01:28 AM   #78 
      Olberman's blog, posted at 6:55 ET Today  Joolz   Nov-08-04 02:15 AM   #87 
         Gawd! I hope his producers don't make him spin it for the dark side!!  loudsue   Nov-08-04 02:41 AM   #96 
         KOlberman is asking who Fixed the EXIT POLLS??? WRONG QUESTION  BernieBear   Nov-08-04 12:56 PM   #206 
   sound bite things are very good..  rchsod   Nov-08-04 12:30 AM   #19 
   Watch the stickering -- they need to be removable  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:34 AM   #24 
      It take courage  OctOct1   Nov-08-04 07:59 AM   #142 
      we have started to  koopie57   Nov-08-04 10:46 AM   #192 
   It's time to cancel Cable and your Newspaper subscriptions  Bushneedstogo   Nov-08-04 12:31 AM   #20 
   I've decided not to get cable at my new place.  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 03:07 AM   #108 
   We need a boycott date  Bushneedstogo   Nov-08-04 04:39 AM   #127 
      Someone has to organize it. Someone has to be the leader.  Ladyhawk   Nov-09-04 06:57 PM   #286 
         Olbermann says he didn't get the "memo" on media blackout.  Ladyhawk   Nov-09-04 06:59 PM   #287 
   Could not agree more!!  Nightwing   Nov-08-04 08:15 AM   #144 
   absolutely right  tinanator   Nov-08-04 08:45 AM   #156 
   Thanks for your work, Bev.  fidgeting wildly   Nov-08-04 12:34 AM   #23 
   Yes, FINALLY something good to do with that junk mail!  TexasDem4Kerry   Nov-08-04 12:35 AM   #26 
   Big Picture Question.  abernste   Nov-08-04 12:38 AM   #28 
   There is a sliver of a chance for a recount in Ohio  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:50 AM   #43 
   Wow, Thanks!  abernste   Nov-08-04 01:07 AM   #61 
   Name of ES&S guy is JOE McGINNIS  Straight Shooter   Nov-08-04 01:27 AM   #77 
   Exactly how I feel. nt  JerseygirlCT   Nov-08-04 09:12 AM   #168 
   Doubtful it will turn anything around  ailsagirl   Nov-10-04 09:00 PM   #301 
   Can we get started on sound bites? I need some guidance  eleny   Nov-08-04 12:40 AM   #29 
   Peter Werbe just got a call about this from someone here!  eleny   Nov-08-04 12:42 AM   #33 
   That Be Me - I Thought It Important To Spread The News Of Bev's  mhr   Nov-08-04 02:18 AM   #89 
   Just make sure they are removable stickers  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:53 AM   #45 
   freeway blogging  lwfern   Nov-08-04 12:43 AM   #34 
   Is the freeway blogger on this list?  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:34 AM   #175 
   Bev PLEASE Be Careful  demodonkey   Nov-08-04 12:44 AM   #35 
   We have dozens of Colleges in my area (God Bless you Bev Harris)  Bushneedstogo   Nov-08-04 12:44 AM   #36 
   KICK  seraph   Nov-08-04 12:46 AM   #38 
   The Foriegn press is the answer  alittlelark   Nov-08-04 12:48 AM   #40 
   Good thought, lark.  ClassWarrior   Nov-08-04 12:49 AM   #41 
   The Press in France  BushSpeak   Nov-09-04 09:16 PM   #291 
   I think we need to put together a foreign press list.  Kadie   Nov-08-04 12:54 AM   #46 
      I Need Specific Info: There's TONS of useable info scattered all over DU  jambojonusa   Nov-08-04 08:35 PM   #250 
   KERRY WON!!  4dsc   Nov-08-04 12:50 AM   #42 
   Put it everywhere - FRAUD  seraph   Nov-08-04 12:52 AM   #44 
   Bev, thanks this is super! can you post list of completed counties  JudyM   Nov-08-04 12:55 AM   #47 
   The best way is to post in the state and county forum at the web site  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:58 AM   #51 
      Great thanks! 'Nother thought: submit to BBC, other news sources?  JudyM   Nov-08-04 01:02 AM   #56 
   Right on, Bev  LTRS   Nov-08-04 12:57 AM   #50 
   Hmmm. Hit 'em where the funding hurts. Good idea! (n/t)  BevHarris   Nov-08-04 12:59 AM   #53 
   I know NPR won't report it  lwfern   Nov-08-04 12:58 AM   #52 
   Let me speak to that for a moment  LTRS   Nov-08-04 01:03 AM   #57 
   NPR changed  avm   Nov-08-04 09:39 PM   #254 
   Did he specify the reason?  JudyM   Nov-08-04 01:04 AM   #58 
   the reason he gave  lwfern   Nov-08-04 07:42 AM   #140 
   It needs to get out online  HeeBGBz   Nov-08-04 01:09 AM   #64 
   What about C-SPAN and other call-in shows?  RevCheesehead   Nov-08-04 02:25 AM   #92 
   Greg Palast on Wisc. Public Radio Monday, Nov 8th!!  AllyCat   Nov-08-04 08:31 AM   #152 
   Nominated for front page  goclark   Nov-08-04 01:00 AM   #55 
   I second the nomination. n/t  LoZoccolo   Nov-08-04 01:06 AM   #59 
   How about...  Hatchling   Nov-08-04 03:48 AM   #121 
   Just sent one off to crew@blackboxvoting.org  LoZoccolo   Nov-08-04 01:07 AM   #60 
   Bev, you should put this list on the front page of the site.  LoZoccolo   Nov-08-04 01:09 AM   #65 
   Recommend this thread for the front page  eleny   Nov-08-04 01:12 AM   #68 
   Excellent idea....I'd add capacity as well  jackstraw45   Nov-08-04 01:14 AM   #69 
   At a certain point, the media doesn't matter.  IdaBriggs   Nov-08-04 01:10 AM   #66 
   I'm saving this page.....  liberalnurse   Nov-08-04 01:16 AM   #71 
   a kick and a thanks! n/t  Fiendish Thingy   Nov-08-04 01:26 AM   #75 
   Thanks Bev. I will do all I can  juajen   Nov-08-04 01:26 AM   #76 
   Keep your signs up and definitely WEAR YOUR KERRY BUTTONS  Straight Shooter   Nov-08-04 01:34 AM   #81 
   humble dissent to your opinion  m berst   Nov-08-04 03:17 AM   #113 
      I agree with this one  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:39 AM   #178 
   Kerry/Edwards signs  aprillcm   Nov-08-04 08:27 AM   #149 
      Kerry sign in window and upside down flag under it...sound good?  Digit   Nov-08-04 07:16 PM   #235 
   Kick! n/t  jaredh   Nov-08-04 01:48 AM   #82 
   more  grasswire   Nov-08-04 01:54 AM   #83 
   I don't know if I'm insane or what...but I'm really fucking terrified now.  JohnnyCougar   Nov-08-04 01:58 AM   #84 
   johnny. were here for you ok? were all in this together  faithnotgreed   Nov-08-04 02:12 AM   #86 
   sadly for the US, Keith has run from the story  Ducks In A Row   Nov-08-04 01:54 PM   #215 
   We could email msnbc urging them to run the show....but not email bomb  Digit   Nov-08-04 07:17 PM   #236 
   This is the letter I sent Keith...guess it has become meaningless.  gbreez   Nov-09-04 11:31 AM   #278 
   Stay frosty, bud  robg   Nov-08-04 02:17 AM   #88 
   The Foreign Press may be a hope  Bamabelle   Nov-08-04 02:55 AM   #100 
   Good idea  robg   Nov-08-04 01:31 PM   #212 
   "Unless Bev is gaming us"????? Are you KIDDING????  loudsue   Nov-08-04 03:00 AM   #102 
   Yo, Sue  robg   Nov-08-04 03:33 AM   #119 
      I totally agree, robg....  loudsue   Nov-08-04 05:03 AM   #131 
      You did not over-react  robg   Nov-08-04 01:26 PM   #211 
      I know  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:45 AM   #180 
         Well said, then, and brightest blessings  robg   Nov-08-04 01:17 PM   #208 
   Bev is not gaming us  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:41 AM   #179 
      I don't think she is gaming us, either  robg   Nov-08-04 12:47 PM   #205 
         Of course  tavalon   Nov-08-04 08:31 PM   #249 
   You're afraid because they're in power and they cheated and they..  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 03:14 AM   #111 
   No, but  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:50 AM   #182 
   I feel like you do.  crispini   Nov-08-04 11:36 AM   #197 
   A million thanks, Bev, for being so courageous and tenacious  demo@midlife   Nov-08-04 02:42 AM   #98 
   I'm still waiting for my confirmation e-mail from bbv.org  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 02:54 AM   #99 
   more likely  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:51 AM   #183 
   Be Patient, Keep Trying  RedEagle   Nov-08-04 10:37 AM   #191 
   Foreign Press Contacts.........  Gloria   Nov-08-04 03:07 AM   #107 
   Gloria, if you don't mind I'm going to start a thread with this info  Nordic   Nov-08-04 12:12 PM   #202 
   What's even Scarier  berni_mccoy   Nov-08-04 03:07 AM   #109 
   To me, sitting on my ass is way more scary than doing nothing.  Ladyhawk   Nov-08-04 03:17 AM   #115 
   Deleted .... bad formatting  loudsue   Nov-08-04 03:11 AM   #110 
   E-MAIL LIST -- FOREIGN NEWSPAPERS  loudsue   Nov-08-04 03:15 AM   #112 
   Kerry WON!  sara4kerry   Nov-08-04 03:17 AM   #114 
   $250 on the way, and thank you Bev for reading my PM  Bozos for Bush   Nov-08-04 03:30 AM   #116 
   I watched votergate. Great job!  sara4kerry   Nov-08-04 03:31 AM   #117 
   Just Posted Related BBV Stories And Links In Six Yahoo News Groups  mhr   Nov-08-04 03:32 AM   #118 
   Spin can be Fatal.  MagicalSpork   Nov-08-04 03:36 AM   #120 
   Thanks. Kick.  Robeson   Nov-08-04 03:50 AM   #122 
   Any way I can help: EVOTING FRAUD RESOURCE CENTER  tommcintyre   Nov-08-04 03:50 AM   #123 
   Play the Kevin Bacon game  txindy   Nov-08-04 08:28 AM   #150 
   Here something to add to this thread  mrdmk   Nov-08-04 03:52 AM   #124 
   Jeff Fisher  tkmorris   Nov-08-04 08:22 AM   #146 
   Does anyone have an email list for colleges?  Dem2theMax   Nov-08-04 04:05 AM   #126 
   Absolutely! GOOD POINTS. This Thread is Critical.  jambojonusa   Nov-08-04 10:05 PM   #263 
   How About This On a T Shirt?  AndyTiedye   Nov-08-04 04:44 AM   #129 
   kick...  lamp_shade   Nov-08-04 05:14 AM   #132 
   Can anyone assemble a short recap of the issue?  KitSileya   Nov-08-04 05:21 AM   #133 
   there are SO MANY screw ups this time.  jdjkkse   Nov-08-04 08:50 AM   #160 
      Absolutely. Good strategy says...(& study the background too)  jambojonusa   Nov-08-04 11:59 PM   #271 
   It costs about $150 to print up 1000 full color double sided half-sheets  stickdog   Nov-08-04 05:35 AM   #134 
   Bev, print people are waiting for your evidence  splat   Nov-08-04 05:37 AM   #135 
   agreed...send out the data.....we'll force it out every way possible...  cthrumatrix   Nov-08-04 07:22 AM   #138 
   Kicking to the top for the day crew.  Dem2theMax   Nov-08-04 06:27 AM   #136 
   Paul Krugman??  leftchick   Nov-08-04 07:04 AM   #137 
   him or Sy Hersh  cthrumatrix   Nov-08-04 07:22 AM   #139 
   Exactly!! Sy Hersh! We need to contact him, IMMEDIATELY!  txindy   Nov-08-04 08:26 AM   #148 
   How about Carl Bernstein?  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:55 AM   #184 
   Helen Thomas? Howard Stern? /nt  dist22dem   Nov-08-04 08:47 AM   #159 
   His ability with numbers would surely come in handy here  JerseygirlCT   Nov-08-04 09:15 AM   #169 
   krugman is on an extended vacation  nostamj   Nov-08-04 09:34 AM   #176 
      Um.....  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:56 AM   #185 
   Journalists have power in numbers! WHY will they ALL not stand up  in_cog_ni_to   Nov-08-04 07:58 AM   #141 
   dupe. n/t  in_cog_ni_to   Nov-08-04 07:59 AM   #143 
   Bev, Can you get yourself on C-Span?  molly   Nov-08-04 08:19 AM   #145 
   Send the information to the Guardian and Christian Science Monitor.  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-08-04 08:23 AM   #147 
   The Iconoclast, too. In Crawford, Texas  txindy   Nov-08-04 08:30 AM   #151 
   Bush II=America's downfall?  Frumious B   Nov-08-04 09:01 AM   #164 
   Welcome to DU, Frumious B!  myrna minx   Nov-08-04 09:49 AM   #181 
   Thanks, and welcome to DU!  Laelth   Nov-08-04 09:58 AM   #186 
   Hang in there, Frumious.  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-08-04 10:21 AM   #190 
   Glad you're here, Frumious B  txindy   Nov-08-04 01:25 PM   #210 
   Welcome, and you most certainly do belong here! We are the patriotic  milkyway   Nov-08-04 01:44 PM   #213 
   Amy Goodman- Democracy Now!  Willy Lee   Nov-08-04 09:24 AM   #173 
   Send to: THE VILLAGE VOICE also  itzamirakul   Nov-08-04 07:12 PM   #234 
   I have forwarded this info to Bev  Magginkat   Nov-08-04 08:36 AM   #154 
   Except Escambia gave Bush 73,171 votes to Gore's 40,990 in 2000.  flpoljunkie   Nov-08-04 11:32 AM   #196 
   Yesss! Wonderful and humorous ideas here! Got your back,  libbygurl   Nov-08-04 08:46 AM   #157 
   Kick!  RevRussel   Nov-08-04 08:46 AM   #158 
   Change your websites to political ones!  arnheim   Nov-08-04 08:51 AM   #161 
   That's what I've been doing, gradually  SiouxJ   Nov-08-04 10:07 AM   #188 
   Don't go down a wild goose chase: Re 2. Crunch the numbers  Pobeka   Nov-08-04 08:53 AM   #162 
   Keep this one at the top...or nothing will get done to stop fascists  Pallas180   Nov-08-04 09:02 AM   #165 
   simplify!!!  billDcat   Nov-08-04 09:12 AM   #167 
   There's a Kinkos right across the street  arnheim   Nov-08-04 10:07 AM   #187 
   Bless you Bev  tavalon   Nov-08-04 09:16 AM   #170 
   Has Jon Stewart mentioned this at all? Haven't had time for much TV lately  ClintonsFan   Nov-08-04 09:17 AM   #171 
   Bev  dist22dem   Nov-08-04 09:30 AM   #174 
   Great ways to get involved! Thanks Bev! You are a  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-08-04 09:36 AM   #177 
   Is BBV and votergate down today?  tarrant84   Nov-08-04 10:57 AM   #193 
   don't forget the CARTOONISTS!  nostamj   Nov-08-04 10:59 AM   #194 
   From a "free" state- NY  PATRICK   Nov-08-04 11:40 AM   #198 
   Donated on Friday  Patiod   Nov-08-04 11:45 AM   #199 
   "I know the election was stolen and want to help..."  m berst   Nov-08-04 12:08 PM   #200 
   How? here's a suggestion  rozf   Nov-08-04 12:40 PM   #204 
   @Forumz message board {{{HUGS}}} Bev Harris  jcldragon   Nov-08-04 12:12 PM   #201 
   Picking up the litter  Mabel Dodge   Nov-08-04 01:54 PM   #214 
   Suspicious information Regarding small FL county Votes  Winamericaback   Nov-08-04 01:56 PM   #216 
   Good job Send this to Bev!  soulsick in jp   Nov-08-04 05:56 PM   #228 
   A media lockdown. That makes sense. The republicans are attempting  Zorra   Nov-08-04 02:34 PM   #217 
   Zorra, sounds effective, could you provide links to the information  RedEagle   Nov-08-04 02:58 PM   #219 
      Here:  Zorra   Nov-08-04 07:35 PM   #241 
   support the three representatives  m berst   Nov-08-04 02:53 PM   #218 
   Thom Hartmann credits Bev in recent story...  Bushfire   Nov-08-04 04:20 PM   #221 
   Re: "Thom Hartmann credits Bev in recent story..."  Le Huron   Nov-08-04 05:33 PM   #224 
   Simple, Important Question  stevietheman   Nov-08-04 05:18 PM   #223 
   The thing is  tavalon   Nov-08-04 08:39 PM   #251 
      I agree with...  stevietheman   Nov-08-04 11:45 PM   #269 
   Donated today. (n/t)  noonriser   Nov-08-04 05:37 PM   #225 
   BEV - interesting article here from March this year  pk_du   Nov-08-04 05:49 PM   #226 
   And looks like we have another relative as VP of Sales  pk_du   Nov-08-04 05:52 PM   #227 
   "Data as Requested" Help Bev  nedbal   Nov-08-04 06:15 PM   #229 
   Good NEW information on this thread! We need some people to  loudsue   Nov-08-04 06:57 PM   #230 
   http://www.mirror.co.uk/contactus/  Samantha   Nov-08-04 07:01 PM   #231 
   I hate watching the news on TV ...  Laelth   Nov-08-04 07:05 PM   #232 
   My First Post on DU - Hearings in Ohio  Turn CO Blue   Nov-08-04 07:07 PM   #233 
   Hey! Somebody welcome me to the group!  Turn CO Blue   Nov-08-04 07:27 PM   #238 
   Hi Turn CO Blue!  Laelth   Nov-08-04 07:38 PM   #243 
   You inspired me to tell people how to spread the news!  Digit   Nov-08-04 07:39 PM   #244 
   Welcome  Mabel Dodge   Nov-08-04 07:39 PM   #245 
   Newsgroup posting....how to influence while sitting at the computer  Digit   Nov-08-04 07:37 PM   #242 
      Google Groups  Keirsey   Nov-08-04 10:23 PM   #265 
   I sent some money.  Fatima   Nov-08-04 07:29 PM   #239 
   Whoa! Analyzing at Precient Level shows fraud in Cuyahoga!  FighttheFuture   Nov-08-04 07:35 PM   #240 
   Link's not working.  Laelth   Nov-08-04 07:41 PM   #246 
   Someone needs to come forward  gristy   Nov-08-04 08:25 PM   #247 
   Bev's site needs major geek help PASSWORD CHANGE  nedbal   Nov-08-04 08:30 PM   #248 
   Where is a damn whistleblower...I know there has to be someone  Blue_Roses   Nov-08-04 08:45 PM   #252 
   give john kerry voting feedback!  tarrant84   Nov-08-04 09:37 PM   #253 
   THE TRUTH--  DanSpillane   Nov-08-04 09:44 PM   #255 
   OTHER IDEAS--  DanSpillane   Nov-08-04 09:46 PM   #256 
   kickkkk  DanSpillane   Nov-08-04 09:46 PM   #257 
   kick  DanSpillane   Nov-08-04 09:47 PM   #258 
   kick  DanSpillane   Nov-08-04 09:47 PM   #259 
   THEY STOLE YOUR VOTE -- IT IS ALL YOU HAVE LEFT!  DanSpillane   Nov-08-04 09:49 PM   #260 
      kick ASSES  DanSpillane   Nov-08-04 09:49 PM   #261 
   Spreading the word  mraftery   Nov-08-04 09:54 PM   #262 
   We desperately need copy that we can use for flyers.  MelanieArt   Nov-08-04 10:12 PM   #264 
   Why is everyone saying Olbermann ran from the story?  gauguin57   Nov-08-04 11:53 PM   #270 
   Help me understand!  212demop   Nov-09-04 12:09 AM   #272 
   Question for Bev Harris or SomeBody???  jambojonusa   Nov-09-04 01:09 AM   #273 
   register on her site  nedbal   Nov-09-04 01:40 AM   #275 
   Listen - If High School Kids Can Get National Coverage  Turn CO Blue   Nov-09-04 01:20 AM   #274 
   Did Bush Lose... Again?  AIndependentTexan   Nov-09-04 01:42 AM   #276 
   kick  librechik   Nov-09-04 02:25 AM   #277 
   what does kick mean?  212demop   Nov-09-04 11:40 AM   #279 
      if someone adds to a thread, the topic automatically moves to the top  librechik   Nov-09-04 01:04 PM   #281 
         Thanks for explaining!  212demop   Nov-09-04 06:03 PM   #283 
   "even on their own time"  Whack_A_Mole   Nov-09-04 11:53 AM   #280 
   Now this is democracy at work!  rmf   Nov-09-04 06:56 PM   #285 
   BBV Information CD ready for Download  Ladyhawk   Nov-09-04 07:00 PM   #288 
   kick - Been out spreading the word  Zorra   Nov-09-04 07:27 PM   #289 
   How to Steal an Election - a musical analysis by Yikes McGee  yancymcgee   Nov-09-04 08:38 PM   #290 
   Any BBV news? Site is down.  scotjohn   Nov-09-04 11:07 PM   #292 
   I want to help audit with my software skills using what I found  theredpill   Nov-10-04 01:05 AM   #293 
   TALK to your community  citizens_unite   Nov-10-04 04:50 AM   #294 
   My first  212demop   Nov-10-04 11:32 AM   #296 
   kick  Zorra   Nov-10-04 02:47 PM   #297 
   Yet, another Thank you, Bev!  Left coast liberal   Nov-10-04 06:27 PM   #298 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-10-04 08:44 PM   #300 
   Statistical Analysis of MIT Professor puts Bush Vote Gain odds at 1 in 50,  LiberalEsto   Nov-10-04 10:34 PM   #302 
   Correction : MIT Professor puts Bush Vote Gain odds at 1 in 50,000  LiberalEsto   Nov-10-04 10:37 PM   #303 
   Bev - here's a draft letter to put heat on Diebold - please circulate  JudyM   Nov-10-04 10:56 PM   #304 
   Keith Olbermann interview with Newsweek  rmf   Nov-11-04 11:40 AM   #305 
   mini posters  femmesphere   Nov-11-04 11:49 PM   #306 
   New statistical analysis - 250 million to one!  seaclyr   Nov-12-04 05:45 AM   #307 
   Kick  Sideways   Nov-12-04 06:03 AM   #308 
   States with electronic voting machines gave Bush mysterious 5% advantage  JTodd   Nov-12-04 05:32 PM   #309 
   New York Times gives up on journalism  citizens_unite   Nov-12-04 05:50 PM   #310 
 
NightTrain (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:06 AM
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1. I've got your back, Bev!
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:06 AM by NightTrain
Last night I donated to BBV. And I host a political talk show on college radio. My next show is dedicated entirely to a post-mortem on the "election."

I'll do one more thing right now. Bev, if you'd like to be interviewed on my show some time, drop me a P.M. People need to know about this bullshit, the sooner the better!
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Randi_Listener (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:06 AM
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2. I fucking like it.
Here we go!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:34 AM
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25. You Do Say Fuck Alot.... LOL!
someone noticed that in another thread and it true :D
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Randi_Listener (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:42 AM
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31. Not really.
It's about the goddamn same as everyone else.
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:32 AM
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79. Oh yes
...you fucking do. It's a trademark. I'm really beginning to like it.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:16 PM
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203. Randi Listener
just discovered cussing,like a 4 year old does, and wants to brag about the new words he's learned.

GO BEV HARRIS! This rocks, and funny enough, I put over 20 stickers up 2 days before the elections in very "interesting" places, over half of them are still up.
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krkaufman (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 03:56 PM
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220. Then you may want to study its many uses...
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 11:22 PM
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268. fuckin' A
:hi:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-08-04 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #25
166. These are fucked times
I find myself using this word and it's variations an awful lot since November 2nd and I've noticed others doing it too. It's a form of truth telling.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:08 AM
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3. Pooter folks on the way, Bev.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:09 AM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
Real ones. With reps. Cred. Degrees. Track records. Understand scientific method.

On edit: It took one email. Just one.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:10 AM
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4. Sent money yesterday
sent offer to you on waht I can do

And sent this to my email friends
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mhr (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:14 AM
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5. Just The Fact That The Media Has Been "Locked Down" Is Proof
Enough for me that the election was stolen and the "powers that be" are running scared!
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checks-n-balances (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:24 AM
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90. My thoughts exactly!
WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:57 AM
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101. You bet your sweet ass.
:mad:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-08-04 12:16 AM
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6. Nominate this thread for the front page!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:19 AM
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7. Done, thanks for that very simple reminder
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:20 AM
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8. What has the journalists horrified?
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:20 AM by Cobalt Violet
The obvious Fraud or being locked down? :(
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:25 AM
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12. The lockdown.
And I heard this, from a 20-year veteran journalist:

"This needs a recall. An impeachment. It's got to be stopped."

Bev
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:36 AM
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27. Whoa! I know some journalists and...
That is a rare occurrance, when they are on the job. Not easy to get a rise out of them like that.
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:41 AM
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30. Yup. Others are concerned also
A reporter for a large newspaper said to me, "so it's really true. I knew it was true. God, I've been living in a bubble." And then he just said, "Well, it is what it is. It's just the state of media today."

That wasn't a glib last line. It was said in sort of a shellshocked way.

I have never, NEVER had journalists from the big media outlets express anything like this to me before.

Bev
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:44 AM
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37. Ladies and Gentlemen:
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:48 AM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
The State of The America Media Union. In one line. By what may be the guy Diogenes was running around with that lamp about.

THAT is all you really need to know.

On edit: And you can lay some of the blame for this at the feet of the phrase they are whipsawed with: "Liberal Media". They have flinched one too many times.
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GingerSnaps (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:57 AM
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49. Can the musicians get this out into the mainstream?
If the media won't do it can the musicians do it at concerts or will the promoters cancel their shows?

I don't remember living in a time that we had no media coverage at all.

Something has to be done and Bush and his minions all need to be locked up and put in jail over in Iraq.

I can't believe that we are living in the movie 1984 :cry:

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-08-04 09:20 AM
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172. My sig line shares a similar sentiment, sort of

It's not 2004, it's not even 1984, it's 1934 and I am NOT a good German.

Terri (2004)
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 03:01 AM
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103. What I don't get is what is so wrong with reporting the truth?
I ran into a lady today who actually thinks Bill Clinton was a mass murderer. Do you remember those rumors? I was a Republican at the time and I didn't even buy them then. I picked up David Brock's book and couldn't get through it. It made me physically ill when I learned what had been done to Clinton by the far right. He still isn't my favorite president, but JESUS!
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signmike (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 04:51 PM
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222. and worse
I heard a woman complaining about how the Clintons had stolen original artwork out of the White House and defecated on Abe Lincoln's desk. Imagine -- she votes!
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txindy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:47 AM
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39. Print media has been locked down, too?
If so, we need the BBC, the CBC, and all the foreign print media we can get. The Mirror, the Toronto papers, all of them. Think we have a chance with them?
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:56 AM
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48. Print media is a bit muffled, but not locked down. Radio alive and well
In fact, copy the "5 things you can do" and fax it to your local radio stations. Radio is turning into a bastion of freedom on this issue.
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txindy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:59 AM
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54. Will do
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 01:00 AM by txindy
I'll go after all the print media I can locate in the US, Canada, UK, Australia, and other countries. Radio, too.

Thanks, Bev. I knew those talking heads (with several exceptions, esp. Keith!) on TV were useless, but this is amazing. It does make it more of a challenge, though, and I LOVE a challenge! :evilgrin:
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checks-n-balances (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:28 AM
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93. Any Howard Stern listeners out there?
He would be LIVID.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 03:03 AM
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105. Maybe a LTTE would work?
That's what I'll do!
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txindy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 08:34 AM
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153. A letter like that would be wonderful
Don't just send it to your local paper, though, also BCC: it to all of the major newspapers and foreign press. Point them to our links, the collective links. We can't let this story slow down, not for a moment.

Sy Hersh is the one we need. The man who broke the Abu Ghraib story is the man who would break this one open in a heartbeat. We need to find a way to get this info. to him today.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-09-04 06:54 PM
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284. I've been so busy with my CD that I forgot about the LTTE
I'm planning on re-doing the ISO of my CD soon. As information flows in, I'm finding some good things to add.

http://ladyhawk.landmarkwebhosting.com
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rmf (24 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-10-04 11:16 AM
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295. The Economist/ Respected
The Economist might be interested in this story. Even though
they are a conservative magazine based out of England, they
are non-partisan and very well respected. 

http://www.economist.com/countries/ 

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 03:02 AM
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104. Local radio is nothing but right-wing bluster. Sorry. :(
nt
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RapidCreek (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 04:03 AM
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125. I don't care for him but you might consider contacting Howard Stern
RC
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-08-04 01:08 AM
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63. Exactly! The US media has been given their 'marching orders" per se...
so go to the foreign media in Canada and elsewhere! Send what you have to the following re Canadian media, programs which have covered bush's history, the facts on the patriot missile, the truth about Abu Graib, etc.:

CTV's WFive - an excellent investigative program
http://www.ctv.ca/wfive

CBC's The Fifth Estate - EXCELLENT investigative programming, if you have the facts, they will look at them I have little doubt!

http://www.cbc.ca/programguide/program/index.jsp?progra...
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txindy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:14 AM
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70. Well, thank you, Canada!
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 01:15 AM by txindy
I went to university in Canada and, although that was many years ago, I remember how good the media was there, both print and television. Even the university paper put most MSM here to shame.

Thanks for the links! If you can find any others (e.g., Toronto papers, Vancouver papers, etc.), I would greatly appreciate it. :hi:
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-08-04 01:18 AM
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72. Try this source for foreign media information....Updated at 1:15 PM
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txindy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:24 AM
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74. Oh, that link is GREAT! Thanks!
:toast:

:hi:
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ballcap1776 (82 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 11:08 AM
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195. They have been reporting it a bit
But they've had trouble getting information out of anyone...it's that Bushbot rhetoric that that them dang ferriners are bad news. So even the BBC is having a time getting answers and numbers to crunch. A friend of mine at the Beeb said they just can't get a grip on the story, even though they know it is there.
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RuleofLaw (345 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:25 PM
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209. Yes it has
The day after the election, the St. Pete Times's editorial stated that we had no election problems! Since then there has been not one mention of election problems in the paper.
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Ducks In A Row (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:12 AM
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67. So there is something that will hit a nerve
too bad they don't have the guts to do something about it.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:18 AM
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73. What the hell are these people thinking?
This is our Democracy. They are stealing it. Won't somebody stand up for it? (Besides Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy?)
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 03:04 AM
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106. It's like they think our tinfoil hats are too tight or something...sigh nt
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:34 AM
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80. Do they not realize their combined power and strength?
Individually they don't have much of a chance but if these bigger media people would just band together they can't fire em all. Or kill em all.

I don't get why they don't do that :shrug: They know what's going is wrong and in the end, they'll suffer the just same as us common folk, or worse.
:-(

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:01 AM
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85. yep
The irony is that the Bushes despise the press. Despise.

And yet Rove cracks his whip and screams a little bit and they capitulate.

Don't they know that they will be the first to be eliminated as the regime clamps down?
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:41 AM
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97. A sad and SICK irony
They are fools not to realize their combined power. Add the tens of millions upon millions of people, not only here in the US but globaly, that would completely be supportive of their efforts and there's nothing the ruling elites could do to stop them.

It's like battered wife syndrome or stockholm syndrome or something. It's sick :-(
And it's frustrating as Hell :grr:
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RedEagle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 10:19 AM
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189. The Corporate Media Doesn't Care
They will consolidate into one, huge, propaganda machine instead of the 5 or 6 they are now.

The corporate leaders DON'T CARE. They will get their huge salaries and the people employed will be let go. They will even dare to outsouce the offices and technical part of it because in this day and age, they can.

They are not, "The Liberal Media" and they never really have been. That's all a crafted campagin to push people into thinking that, so they can skew the message ever more to the right, instead of airing objective journalism. When they rant against the "Liberal Media," they are doing it to kill objective journalism.

And they are doing it by hijacking the publics' airwaves. All of those TV channels belong to the public. The public is being denied any access at all.

The "act" against the media is part of the ploy. If it wasn't an act, the media would have tarred and feathered the beast long ago.

The "journalists" take their marching orders. Some of them, like some in the CIA and military, are not happy about it.

At the point they are unhappy enough to buck the current system is when you'll see some change- until the Bush-friendly corporate machine clamps down on them.

Be your own media and use what's left night and day to get the message out.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-10-04 08:43 PM
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299. The media are owned by Conservatives
They're part of the same group that stole the election. They've been in cahoots with these thieves ever since the beginning. Haven't you ever wondered WHY Dub, inarguably the worst president we've ever had, could get away with the shenanigans, blunders, crappy policy decisions, in short, the fleecing of us Americans with impunity?? Remember how the press hammered Clinton and Nixon?? Remember what a scandal Watergate was?? Now we have a team of crooks in charge and not one peep out of the media. Go to www.mediamatters.org (run by David Brock, a former right-winger turned liberal) if you want to get the real stories about the outrageous bias that exists in the mainstream media.

They're lying now-- acting as if the Dem party is on its last legs, saying how much we blew it, etc. WRONG!!! They want us to fold up and go away!! Dub "won" by one of the (if not the) narrowest margins in history for an incumbent president!! It was no landslide and those bastards are acting as if it were!! They create their own reality, then try to pound it into us. Don't let them!!
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illuminaughty (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:25 AM
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91. We were at a party at a theatre election night
they had 3 screens going. Everyone I've talked to has noted the faces of the journalists on CNN and MSNBC. Right wing radio said it looked as though they were going to get sick...you know because they're sooo liberal and they didn't want to call the states for Bush

What we saw were nervous journalists who were rendered almost speechless. I wish I had taped it because there's a point when the numbers changed and they knew something was up.

It's a coup. And we need to be the military to overthrow it.
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michigandem2 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 10:36 PM
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266. i noticed it too...
I went in reading the web thinking much like I had been leading up to Tuesday..then something changed with the reporting of the states and I could tell something was different in the tones of the voices...I had a bad feeling..

I was up ALL night...and when my husband woke up to go to work he said "he lost huh" I said "it was stolen" and he just rolled his eyes and thought I was paranoid...but now...I don't feel like that...THIS needs to be reported on..Keith Olberman will be a hero...can you believe it? I LOVE him but with all the media we have...one guy stands up and starts the ball...and nobody else will touch it..I keep waiting..for the story to break..and it doesn't.
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-09-04 02:01 PM
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282. Me, three...
I was watching MSNBC and the networks and noticed that the anchors and reporters looked shocked (and almost scared). I found that infuriating, because they were the ones that helped create those results by shilling for BushCo for four years. Really, how could they be surprised? Don't they have a clue about the influence they have? Those were the natural consequences of reinforcing BushCo lies and ignoring national and world events that were truly important.

The only news programs I have continued to watch since then, are Countdown, C-Span, NOW and Frontline.
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shelley806 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:35 AM
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95. Keith Olbermann said on his blog today (yesterday now) that he was
going to discuss election fraud Monday and Tuesday on Countdown. I've already given the link to many people.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240
<snip>
Keith Olbermann blog Nov. 7, 2004

This is mentioned because there is a small but blood-curdling set of news stories that right now exists somewhere between the world of investigative journalism, and the world of the Reynolds Wrap Hat. And while the group’s ultimate home remains unclear - so might our election of just a week ago.
Stories like these have filled the web since the tide turned against John Kerry late Tuesday night. But not until Friday did they begin to spill into the more conventional news media. That’s when the Cincinnati Enquirer reported that officials in Warren County, Ohio, had “locked down” its administration building to prevent anybody from observing the vote count there.Thus the majority of the media has yet to touch the other stories of Ohio (the amazing Bush Times Ten voting machine in Gahanna) or the sagas of Ohio South: huge margins for Bush in Florida counties in which registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans 2-1, places where the optical scanning of precinct totals seems to have turned results from perfect matches for the pro-Kerry exit poll data, to Bush sweeps.
We will be endeavoring to pull those stories, along with the Warren County farce, into the mainstream Monday and/or Tuesday nights on Countdown.


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SoCalDemocrat (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 04:41 AM
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128. More like going to DIScount voter fraud on Mon-Tues

The media is laughing about it, not giving it any serious scrutiny. MSNBC wrote a story on my intial post and said it was tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. They aren't even performing cursory investigative work.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 04:53 AM
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130. If you look at Olberman's blog entry...
...it sure doesn't sound like he's discounting it.

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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 11:16 PM
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267. B.S.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 11:17 PM by slutticus
These "reporters" need to grow a sac, with all due respect, and do their FUCKING JOBS!!!!!!!

This is a disgrace. Don't they have any dignity?

Please...beg them to do their jobs.......

Please?
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BernieBear (350 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:33 AM
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94. Bev, it's time for journalists to reclaim themselves
They've all made enough money -- now it's time for them to reclaim the integrity they've lost during the "infotainmentizing" of the news. They must all as one, stand up and tell this story. Together we must all take back Democracy and they are supposed to be at the forefront of Democracy. That's there role. Getting that which is hidden out into the light of day.

They must find the courage that led them to this field. Today could be each of their finest hours. They must come forward now.

BernieB
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jdj (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 08:37 AM
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155. There were THREE stories in the Charlotte Observer
on computer voting snafus Friday, one took the top half of the front page, then there was another front page on one of the sub-sections then a great article explaing why there were 4000 more votes than voters (which the repukes caught Thursday, which tells me they are watching the computer results like a hawk, ready to pounce if results are not in their favor). It turns out that the early voting results were all downloaded from their respective machines to a central computer and the boe thinks some results were downloaded twice. How's that for a new scheme, download results from a 'certain' precinct into the computer an extra time or too to get the results you need...however since dems swept the commissioners race the repukes were crunching the #'s,which tells me they damn well know all about this...they got the results over-turned, and got a repuke back out in front.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 08:55 AM
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163. I read those stories too, jdjkkse
Where are you? I'm in Harrisburg, near the track.
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AlexHamilton (97 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 07:26 PM
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237. Check out this site Bev
I am administrator of the site Impeachment by the People, and am hosting a petition to Impeach Bush. I encourage everyone to link us and sign the petition. We need more signatures before we can present it to anyone. We could always change the petition slightly to incorporate any voting fraud found. Would love to hear some feedback.

Alex Hamilton
Impeachment by the People
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deek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:23 AM
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9. graphic artists?
Can you make an address label page of stickers for us?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:33 AM
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22. see my post ----- plus cd labels
you don`t need a graphic artist simple words repeated over and over for the next few years...going on a trip? sticker every where you stop....
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deek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:11 PM
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207. I was asking for a file with the address labels made up
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 01:15 PM by deek
My software doesn't work right and I despise Office.

I remember from the 2000 selection finding a fabulous file that had the address labels (six different designs) on a standard Avery sheet.

I was hoping to find something similar. Actually, they are probably still appropriate........I'm sure I saved them.
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Baja Margie (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:23 AM
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10. Thank You !!!
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:24 AM
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11. Thanks, Bev.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:33 AM by Ladyhawk
I got my CD done and I'm going to hand it out at the Dem Club meeting in a couple of days. It includes VoterGate. I'm going to have a really hard time if the speaker doesn't address this issue. I think I'll plead stomach upset--it will be true--and just leave.

Nothing he says means a thing unless we get rid of voter fraud. It's a total waste of time.

Perhaps you could look at it once it's ready to distribute and give me ideas on how to produce a non-partisan version. I'm so pissed I can't be non-partisan right now. My family and I aren't speaking.

P.S. I bet I'm your woman for my county. I'll sign up at your site.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:26 AM
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13. Thank you, Bev for the update...
God, hearing your comments on media lockdown is chilling. Heaven help us.... we HAVE to succeed in exposing whatever truly happened!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-08-04 12:27 AM
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14. I've always suspected such media lockdownsUpdated at 7:17 PM
especially earlier in the year when it came out the CBS was told to hold a story for a few days.

But this really scares me.

Thanks for the info Bev. I've got an email group I've maintained throughout the election and it's about to double in size.

And please be careful out there.
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:29 AM
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18. They said this is the worst lockdown since the war in Iraq started
Nevertheless, we will out this vote fraud.
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:28 AM
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15. This has been forwarded to my list
and they will forward this "to do" list to their friends and so on and so on.

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SeveneightyWhoa (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:28 AM
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16. I have a good idea who your source is..
But I won't say, out of respect for you. :)
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shance (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:42 AM
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32. Am sending it out. Thanks Bev*
n/t
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Ducks In A Row (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:28 AM
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17. Keith Olbermann plans to talk about it on his MSNBC show Countdown
It will be interesting to see if he has to back out of it.
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:31 AM
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21. They backed out of it. Unless they just rescheduled it.
I got a call from his producer yesterday about their sudden change of plans. I hope they have the stones to do the story, but I guess we'll see.

Bev
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Ducks In A Row (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:07 AM
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62. Hmm, I wonder what he think of all the lead-pipe cinch nonsense ...
from his blog entry. That the news is more reliable than blogs. I guess he won't be so smug now.

Too bad he isn't going to stand up for what is right in this country. Well I guess there's no reason to break my boycott of tv news channels just to watch him.

I hoped he'd be different. :sigh:
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:28 AM
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78. that's sickening
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 01:30 AM by Nordic
If that's true, I'm gonna go nuts on them
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:15 AM
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87. Olberman's blog, posted at 6:55 ET Today
says that he's still gonna do the story on both Monday and Tuesday... maybe it will be watered down? or maybe he will come on and tell us he was nixed? I dunno... but here's a link to his blog article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240 / Let's hope...
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:41 AM
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96. Gawd! I hope his producers don't make him spin it for the dark side!!
Holding my breath, but a little nervous at this point!

:kick: :kick:
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BernieBear (350 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:56 PM
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206. KOlberman is asking who Fixed the EXIT POLLS??? WRONG QUESTION
On his blog he's saying that the exit polls were screwed not the voting. I don't believe that. that's a new Repug way to spin it. Help, help, help........ The question is how did the results get screwed..... He doesn't seem to "get" it......
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:30 AM
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19. sound bite things are very good..
all ya need is a printer and ink jet label paper. smaller label makers start at 50 bucks and are portable...you could sticker the country for a few bucks....
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:34 AM
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24. Watch the stickering -- they need to be removable
we don't want provide any excuse for arrests or fines, and a sticker that gets stuck too tight might be considered defacing property.

You can get post-it style stuff that will go through a printer. This is the type of thing that will work well if your group can make a whole bunch for others near you, and distribute batches of them.

Bev
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OctOct1 (357 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 07:59 AM
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142. It take courage
And that , I see little of
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koopie57 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 10:46 AM
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192. we have started to
put website addresses on dollar bills. I noticed that whenever there was a little message on a bill I would wonder about it, etc. So we started to put du address, bartcop, etc. What web address would be the most effective?
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GingerSnaps (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:31 AM
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20. It's time to cancel Cable and your Newspaper subscriptions
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:31 AM by Bushneedstogo
We have to and we need to print 500 flyer's per week and leave them in as many places as we can.

We can't give up.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 03:07 AM
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108. I've decided not to get cable at my new place.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 03:08 AM by Ladyhawk
I'll do Netflix or something else. We need to make some sign-up threads.

I, ________, solemnly swear to boycott cable until democracy is restored to America.

I, ________, solemnly swear to boycott (Wal-Mart, General Mills, Outback, Curves, etc.)

A thread for each.
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GingerSnaps (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 04:39 AM
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127. We need a boycott date
It has to be massive and it has to get out so that when we cut things off they are going to feel the burn in their wallets.

They want there own media then we have to speak by the way of taking money out of their pockets. Let's get together and do this but it has to be done in such a large way that the corporations feel it and it hits them hard.

I like Netflix and I am a member of Netflix it's a shame that Walmart and Blockbuster are trying to take over their business.

How are we going to do this?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-09-04 06:57 PM
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286. Someone has to organize it. Someone has to be the leader.
I feel like we've been deserted by our leadership. We have to make new leaders, apparently.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-09-04 06:59 PM
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287. Olbermann says he didn't get the "memo" on media blackout.
I guess that means he believes it doesn't exist.

What I know is that more media personalities should be jumping all over this.
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Nightwing (489 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 08:15 AM
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144. Could not agree more!!
Hit these bastards where it hurts the most; Tune them out and stop purchasing any products of sponsors for their programs. Write letters to the sponsors and let them know you will not watch any program shoving the right wing philosophy down our throats and thus will not purchase a damn thing they're selling.

The almighty dollar is all they understand!! Hit em where it hurts and let them know why!
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 08:45 AM
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156. absolutely right
since they only poison minds and murder trees its a win-win
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fidgeting wildly (335 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:34 AM
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23. Thanks for your work, Bev.
I'm out to sea in a red state, dying for something, ANYTHING I can do to help, and you just delivered me the handbook. Now I can get to work. Thanks.

:yourock:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:35 AM
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26. Yes, FINALLY something good to do with that junk mail!
I'm with you all the way. :)
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:38 AM
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28. Big Picture Question.
What are the real possibilities here? It seems to me that there are three possible outcomes if we succeed:

1) We get this story out and have a real chance of changing things by December 11th -- i.e. in Kerry's favor.

2) We get this story out and don't change the election, but we do succeed in rendering Bush's "mandate" meaningless by eliminating all semblance of legitimacy.

3) We have no effect at all on the 2004 results, but we do manage to make things better for 2006 and beyond.

Look, I'm going to do what I can REGARDLESS of which of these three is more likely. I just want to know where this is all going.
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:50 AM
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43. There is a sliver of a chance for a recount in Ohio
and I heard something quite disgusting this morning there, regarding their apparent failure to account for provisional ballots. I knew this was going to happen -- they put in a law for provisional ballots without putting in auditing controls and some states can't seem to tell anyone how many there were.

In Ohio, the estimate is between 150,000 and 500,000. At 150k, exclusive of all the other fraud there, Bush wins. At 300k, Kerry wins. While I have heard reports of how many provisionals were received, no one can seem to specify where the records are, the source documents that back up the figures.

One political operative said "they are still coming in." (?!?!?)

Provisional ballots are cast on Election Day. There is absolutely no excuse not to know how many were cast, precinct by precinct, as of Election Night. For the secretary of state to do this kind of stonewalling is bad.

. Add that to anomalies in Franklin, Perry, Cuyahoga, Youngstown, Gahanna, and where was it the ES&S guy was dinking around with the computer for the weekend, name escapes me now.

Add that to Greg Palast's blistering expose on the Ohio punch cards.

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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:07 AM
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61. Wow, Thanks!
And not just for the info, but for replying to my post. You're a rock star in bloggerland -so this made my night.

And as I said, I would fight just as hard even if there was no chance this year. So keep up the good work and THANK YOU!
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 01:27 AM
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77. Name of ES&S guy is JOE McGINNIS
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 09:12 AM
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168. Exactly how I feel. nt
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-10-04 09:00 PM
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301. Doubtful it will turn anything around
I hate to be a downer but, from what I've heard (on Air America) and read (in The Nation and on Kos), it's doubtful that anything will come of it... certainly the chances of it turning the election around are practically nil. Think about it-- they've got it rigged so that the entire government is theirs!! They're certainly not going to allow any kind of official investigation. Think of all the crap they've pulled for the last four years-- awful as this is (and this is, literally, treason), it's just business as usual for them.

Al Franken had a computer specialist from MIT on his show and the guy said that most of the anomalies can be explained.

But I refuse to believe a majority of Americans voted that moron back in.

Go to
https://voteprotect.org/index.php?display=EIRMapNation&...

and check out a map of the US, broken down by reported instances of "irregularities"-- it's up to 31,534 incidents, most of them in California (yes), Ohio, Florida, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, PA, NY, and Illinois. Actually, not one state was free from complaints!!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-08-04 12:40 AM
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29. Can we get started on sound bites? I need some guidance
I want to get stickers tomorrow and get started on that.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-08-04 12:42 AM
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33. Peter Werbe just got a call about this from someone here!
Peter gave out the url for DU and the blackboxvotng.org!

Peter's streaming link http://tuner1.dc1.sonixtream.com/solon/media/tuner/Laun...
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mhr (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 02:18 AM
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89. That Be Me - I Thought It Important To Spread The News Of Bev's
Media announcement.
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:53 AM
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45. Just make sure they are removable stickers
By all means, get started. Folks, suggest your favorite sound bites.

Another suggestion is to ask Nostamj to start a sound byte thread. Those always come up with great stuff.

Bev
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:43 AM
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34. freeway blogging
we need a freeway blogging campaign here.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-08-04 09:34 AM
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175. Is the freeway blogger on this list?
Today is my day for contacting a lot of these people. I'll check at his/her website.

I have another project I'm working on as well, though this one will get the bulk of my time from here on out. My other project, which I will be posting elsewhere starting today is a morale booster but could be combined with this issue nicely. That being, it's time to get the kids together and motivated again (as if most of us aren't already LOL). We need to have a symbolic protest in Washington DC during the inauguration.
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:44 AM
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35. Bev PLEASE Be Careful
You and Andy should check in here at regular intervals?
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GingerSnaps (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-08-04 12:44 AM
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36. We have dozens of Colleges in my area (God Bless you Bev Harris)
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 12:45 AM by Bushneedstogo
I go to College and I am willing to walk to each campus and hand out as many flyer's and whatever is needed.

I am so sick over this situationn and fraudulent election that I am on medication for depression for a few more days.

I want my country back and I want our freedom to be the same as it was years ago.

The Bush Crime family and the fraudulent media has to be held accountable for what they have done.

They all need to be kicked off of the air and Ruppert Murdoch should be put in prison along with all of the others that have fed the people a load of crap for several years now.

Tell me how I can help and I will spend all of my free time dedicated to doing whatever you need.

God Bless you Bev Harris. :loveya:
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