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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:33 PM
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America is America to us all: A plea for faith and right action
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 10:41 PM by noiretblu
Folks, we have an historic opportunity here. Even if we cannot oust
the fraud from office, we can certainly limit his so-called mandate.
But, I think we have a chance to do a whole lot more:
MAKE THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE KNOWN. The Supreme Court stole that
opportunity from us in 2000.

All of the efforts underway to make this goal happen take time, energy, and most of all money. So, please ask yourself what it would be worth to you to restore some semblance of democracy, decency and fairness to our national government, and save our country from further disgrace, ruin, and war, including cultural wars issues that do nothing but divide us, so we can be more easily conquered.
Don't like abortion? Don't have one. Don't want gays to
get married? Don't marry a gay person. It's all so simple.

I am so sick of hearing religion used an as excuse for bigotry, hatred, and the denial of the rights of full citizenship and personhood. Remember: religion was used against black people...to justify slavery, jim crow, and segregation, all manner of evil in this country. On the other side of the equation, religion was also a huge galvanizing force in the civil rights movement.
The only VALUE worth having is one that YOU LIVE, not one that you bestow upon yourself because you are a follower of one religion or another.

Let me tell you something: GOD is just fine with me. I am by far a
more MORAL person than that pea-brained moron squatting in the white
house. And when I marry the woman I love...GOD will still be just fine
with me, and I will still be more moral than all the people who would
deny me the same rights of citizenship that all who presume their
morality is superior to mine take for granted.

I never gave a damn about the gay marriage issue until it was used by
the republicans in this election...YES, THEY STARTED THIS SHIT. YES,
IT WORKED AS PLANNED. YES, THEY USED IT TO APPEAL TO homophobes, just
as they used Willie Horton and "welfare queens" to appeal to racists.
I never gave a damn about gay marriage...until I met someone I dream of making that kind of commitment to; someone who I want to cherish, care for, and to reap all the benefits of my life on this planet.
She just happens to be a woman, like myself. Who is anyone to decide that our love isn't as worthy as anyone else's?

I say it's time our country live up to it stated principles...I say
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! Our forefathers and ancestors did not work and die
for our country to be taken over by a vicious group of folks who rule
by hate, fear, intimidation, and who have succeded in turning most of
the world against us, and pitting American against American. We can no longer sit back and wait for someone else to do the work...our nation, and the world needs us to stand up and say:
NOT IN MY NAME: NO MORE STOLEN ELECTIONS! NO MORE BULLSHIT WEDGE
ISSUES! NOT MORE PITTING US AGAINST EACH OTHER! NO MORE HATRED AND
FEAR! NO MORE...

The great African-American poet, Langston Hughes wrote: "America was
never America to me," back when lynching was still a common practice in this country. It pains me to think that yet another generation of
folks will not recognize themselves as Americans because of the hateful atomosphere some have been working so hard to create, and the ugly divisiveness that will eventually destroy all that IS great about this country.

It really doesn't matter what your political persuasion is,
or what you think democrats should have done, or should be doing now, or what your religious beliefs are. What matters is where we are headed, as a nation, and as a people, and if we are going to allow the further destruction of our most basic values as Americans, per the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these
ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and
organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely
to effect their Safety and Happiness."


We all know these lofty words did not apply to most of the people in
the country when they were written...not the native indians, not the
men who didn't own land, not the women, not the indentured servants,
and not those held as slaves. What we need to ask ourselves now
is...who else do we exclude? Who else gets demonized and scapegoated so that we can claim our moral superiority?

So please, do what you can, even if it's just spreading the word.
And remember: EVIL FLOURISHES WHEN GOOD PEOPLE DO NOTHING.

An American who wants America to finally be America to ALL Americans.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:34 PM
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1. You are so-o-o-o gonna hear from Ashcroft....
But then, so am I. Wanna be cellmates at Guantanamo?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:36 PM
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2. you're on babe...
:loveya: just keep your hands to yourself. my gf is very jealous :D
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:40 PM
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3. Faith In What?
Having Been Unemployed Now For 53 Months,

I have no more faith in our economic system.

Having witnessed three election thefts - 2000, 2002, 2004,

I have no more faith in our electoral system.

Having suffered the proselytizing of supposed Christian Fundies,

I have no more faith in reason or good will.

Having witnesses the wholesale corruption of the media,

I have no more faith in societies desire to be informed.

So what then am I supposed to have faith in?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:42 PM
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4. it's your choice...i can't capitulate anymore
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 10:48 PM by noiretblu
to this manufactured misery. the election was stolen again...i have faith that WE won't let them get away with it this time. it's time to stop crying and complaining here, and get to work on some of the initiatives that are underway. check our the presidential forum for some examples.
i spent 8 years under reagan...depressed, fearful, angry and broke. i'm not doing that again.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:51 PM
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15. I have two draft-age nephews, and an ex in the military
headed to Bahrain soon.

I can't get mowed under by this. My nephews are beautiful, kind, loving young men...great, here come the tears again...


"The life of a man, belongs to that man". David Harris, then husband of Joan Baez, on the act of sending his draft notice back to the gov't(for which he spent 5 years in jail).
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:08 AM
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18. i have cried a lot of late too
in addition to the horrors of what's going on in this country, we all have our own issues to deal with. i will keep you nephews in my prayers, and your ex too...and you.
i have spent the better part of this past year trying to convince my love that her fears about coming out are keeping her stuck in a very lonely and unfulfilling place. but how can i blame her for being afraid? how can i blame her?
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:43 PM
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5. Have faith in yourself.
eom
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:45 PM
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6. Easy Sentiment - Hard To Actualize When Society Has Closed The
Doors in your face and one is months away from destitution and homelessness.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:47 PM
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7. We are living in America
Coca-Cola sometimes WAR!!

Ramstein
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:47 PM
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8. i understand...trust me
i was unemployed for two years after the fraud took office. this is a part of a letter i sent to my friends and family to inform them of the efforts underway to DO SOMETHING about this latest stolen election, instead of just accepting it. there is too much at stake to give in to despair and indifference now. that's what i think anyway.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:56 PM
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10. I don't mean it as an easy sentiment.
My husband was unemployed during the Reagan years.

I am unemployed now. My family has faced hardship. I don't think we are exempt from hardship, even though my family is a little better off right now.

Many of us will face destitution. I have tried to tell my twenty-something children that we, as Democrats, may be the first to face it.

I apologize if you took it the wrong way. My eyes are open. I think it is going to get very bad for most of us, before we wake up. Some of us will not live through this. However, I intend to survive to spit in their faces.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:01 PM
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11. I Intend To Survive As Well - But I Have No Faith
And unlike you I have no family to fall back on.

The next stop for me is cardboard boxes and shantytown.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:03 PM
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12. sorry about that...very sorry
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 11:03 PM by noiretblu
if there is anything i can do, please let me know; DUers help each other out all the time.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:05 PM
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13. Thanks, But I Realize That Most Democrats Are Strapped And I
Would Never Impose!

Some of us have to survive to fight another day, maybe you will be in that group.

As for me, survival is the name of the game.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:52 PM
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16. I've never been so happy to be poor.
I just realized I don't have alot to lose.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:52 PM
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9. Bravo!
I will continue to spread the word. We cannot give up. I believe we need to grow our next generation with more tolerance than the last.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:28 PM
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14. thanks.
and you are absolutely correct. we need to evolve...not devolve.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:59 PM
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17. Words don't heal a hurt heart
Especially when I look a chair where my Jon used to sit. Empty forevermore thanks to Bush and Nader.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:10 AM
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19. i'm sorry for your loss
some losses not even time can heal.
who will hold them accountable?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:47 AM
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20. kick
for the fresh round of doomsday posts :hurts:
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:44 AM
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21. for all the naysayers, quitters, and cavers
:kick: yet another "i give up" post in GD and it hasn't even been a week since the election. all the votes aren't even counted yet...so much for all the FIGHTERS who vowed to DO SOMETHING if the election was stolen.
well...what are you made of, cause here it is: AGAIN.
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