Ralph Nadar for President?

[zeemike]

I will tell you strait up that I a strong Dean supporter (meaning that I opened my wallet and contributed)

But I want Nadar to run. And I want Dean to win the Democratic nomination and select Kerry as his vice president.
Then in about September of 04 Dean goes to Nadar (and this of course would have to be a secret deal if it is to work) and offers him the position of Attorney General if he troughs his support to the demos.
And in a October surprise Nadar endorses the Demos.
That seems to be poetic justice John Ashcroft handing over the position to Ralph Nadar
And just whom do you think that Nadar would go after as attorney General?

[JohnKleeb]

1. ummm take no offense but I dont see Nader endorsing Dean

but interesting concept Nader in a presidential cabinet. No offense I dont see Ralph endorsing Dean, he seems to really like Kucinich :) I know.

[wryter2000]

7. Does Nader like Kucinich?

That's a good sign. My impression of Nader has always been that no one is good enough for Nader besides Nader.

As to a cabinet level position, I'd rather have him at the EPA than in Justice.

[JohnKleeb]

10. Yes he does

I am not a green honestly, now my views are more green than democrat, I went to a thing in Baltimore and Ralph spoke and Dennis was going do but wasnt there because he was in the house.

[StrongBad]

2. Um...no thanks.

n/t

[Trajan]

3. Im a HUGE supporter ...

Of Nadar ....

He is MUCH better than Nadir: who is SO low ....

Now: about that Nader fella .... who is he again ? .....

I fergot ...

[never cry wolf]

9. I think Nadar is a moran n/t

[Alex146]

4. I was hoping Gore would do this.

But no.

Ass hole Nader is the reason we have bush.

[RichV]

5. Why AG?

What makes Nader qualified to be AG?

[zeemike]

11. I don’t think anyone is better qualified than NadEr

He has been a lawyer for the last forty years or so what more is required?

[loyalsister]

22. Prosecutorial experience, maybe?

AG is like DA combined with being a police chief. I kind of doubt he's qualified.
I don't like the idea of a guy like Nader in there, because he has a massive grudge. I want someone who is as close to unbiased as possible. The law should be applied evenly, and priorities shouldn't be arranged according to a political agenda.

[DedEye]

12. What makes Ashcroft qualified?

I don't really like the idea of Nader anywhere near the White House, and I can't possibly imagine Nader endorsing a moderate like Dean (who I support), but Nader would be qualified as AG to me because he'd go after corperate fat cats, rather than average Americans for the books they read.

[JohnKleeb]

15. havent seen you in a while

:hi: I agree with you
Ashcroft is qualified because hes a big time republican, loves to spy on people, is the thesis of a right wing asshole, and is a nuthead. Ashcroft is unqualified yes, and I think Nader would be better.

[zeemike]

17. That’s my point

He would go after the Ken Lays and that is where I see the poetic justice.

[Hippo_Tron]

29. Ashcroft is Qualified...

Because he is a fucking looser who lost his Senate seat to a dead guy and Bush felt sorry for him. Unfortunately in my opinion the only thing that could make a Dean, Kerry, and Nader team worse is if Hillary Clinton were on it. I would be just as afraid of that group as I am of Bush.

[IndianaGreen]

6. What a marvelously psychotic post!

BTW, it is spelled "Nader."

Another flame bait at play!

[zeemike]

13. I’m serious now

Just what is a flame baiter?
Do you mean the title? Do you think I am hoping that someone that hates Nader will also hate me?

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[zeemike]

25. Thank you doctor

I know there was something wrong but I never dreamed that I would find it here on the Internet. I have a flame baiting neurosis. And a deep down need to be spanked. I am such a bad boy.

[Terwilliger]

35. and an ignorant moron

well...you said it :shrug:

[zeemike]

19. I edited this title

added a ? so that it did'nt sound like I wanted that.

[IndianaGreen]

40. Sorry for jumping on you, zeemike

but we had far too many Nader/Green/Satan flame wars in which no one wins, except for certain ideologues that seem to have trouble respecting the right of voters to follow their conscience.

Not even the Communist Party USA demands such blind, goose-stepping loyalty, as these ideologues that think that having a "D" after a candidate's name, makes it mandatory for people to vote for that candidate.

Consider this: Adolf Hitler (D-Bayern). Does that "D" make Hitler righteous? Of course not!

The real problem with Nader, other than the fact that he is as much pro-capitalist and a corporatist as those he criticizes, is that he is playing the same role that Ross Perot played in 1992. As Perot took votes away that would have gone to Bush, Nader took votes away that would have gone to Gore.

True, Gore pissed his assets away in the last election, but the point is that Gore did win the election. Gore won the popular vote in the nation, and Gore got more votes than Bush in Florida. Were it not for Justice Scalia and his Opus Dei cabal, and their intervention in the recount process, Gore would be in the White House today, not the usurper Bush.

The problem with Nader today is that he refuses to see how much damage another Bush term will do to this country and to the world. Nader doesn't seem to care how many people will die if Bush's war is allowed to continue (to be fair, most DLC Democrats could care less about how many Iraqi civilians are slaughtered for the sake of oil).

Nader is no more a real Green than Lieberman is a peace candidate!

[zeemike]

43. No problem

I do want to know when I seem to screw up. But I did chouse the title to attract attention. This is a very fast moving forum and if you don’t get the attention in the first few minutes it is gone.
But as things went in 2000 even with the Nader Vote, Gore may have lost anyway. If 3500 Jews in one county in Florida can vote for Buchanon Who knows who the Greens may have voted for.

[dansolo]

8. None of that will happen

Dean would not pick Kerry as his VP. And he definitely wouldn't let Ralph Nader near his administration. Why would Dean even consider a person who actively supported Bush over Gore?

[zeemike]

14. Hey

I can dream can’t I ?

[Desertrose]

16. Nader Nader Nader....

not Nadir...although thats here we are thanks to *

as has been pointed out above...

this is certainly some different combinations!


Peace
DR

took out & rephrased a bit on edit

[stickdog]

18. I'd like to see the Beatles get back together. (NT)

[rucky]

20. Nader as AG Would Be Cool, Tho

...I'd buy stock in Depends undergarments, because the CEOs would be crapping their pants on a daily basis.

[waggawagga]

21. That's Cwazy Talk

Ever read Robert Graves' "Claudius the God"? Nader wants Bush to win for the same reason Claudius chose Nero to be emperor. He thinks if things get bad enough the people will rise up and restore the Republic. Nero was a crappy emperor. The Republic was never restored.

[zeemike]

27. That’s sounds like

The traits of a megalomaniac and I just don’t feel that Nader is that way.

[Terwilliger]

34. oh, so now you spell his name right?

Maybe you should have thought of that before being a twit.

[devarsi]

44. Jesus H, Terwilliger, who pissed in your cheerios?

give the guy a break :silly:

[waggawagga]

36. Huh?

I don't think it is megalomania on Nader's part. It's more misplaced idealism.

[Terwilliger]

37. or, he's the only one talking sense

I tend to think the latter is true...especially given the evidence

[Terwilliger]

23. Deen? Howard Deean? Dine?

Doene? Doune? Dane? Diane?

What the fuck is his name again?

[durutti]

26. Don't Know, Don't Care

I'm a registered Green. I'm not going to change my reigistration. But I'm still voting for whoever the Democrats nominate.

[VOX]

28. No. Enough of Nader.

Caused enough trouble for Democrats in 2000. I'm not saying he was *the* reason Gore lost, but his candidacy was certainly one of the reasons.

Anyone but *, and no Nader, please.

[Hippo_Tron]

30. Yes But...

He was a definite deciding factor, Bush won Florida by such a small amount that if a fraction of Nader's vote had gone to Gore he would've won.

[DemBones DemBones]

31. WHO DA NADER 2004 ? eom

[jiacinto]

32. Nader wants to destroy the Democratic Party

He has all but said that. He wouldn't accept the position if it were offered anyway. And on top of it I don't think he should be rewarded for his behavior in 2000, which is what you're basically advocating be done.

[Terwilliger]

33. you know...if I hadn't seen it posted...I never would have believed it

never! :shrug:

[depakid]

38. Nader as Charman of the FTC!

Wow- now wouldn't that be cool.

A Federal Trade Commission that would stop rubber stamping all of these anti-competitive mergers and vigorously laws against unfair and deceptive trade practices-

Even you Nader haters out there have to love that.

Well, most of you, anyway....

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[Julien Sorel]

42. My contribution to the nascent Nadir campaign:

The Greens are welcome to it!

[Forkboy]

45. better a Peter Pan outfit

than a pink tutu.

[bucknaked]

46. Ralph Tresvant for pres! We need a man... with... sensa-tivity...

A man like, he!

[Ein]

47. Is the irony lost? n/t