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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:19 PM
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Repug philosophy condensed version
The Repugs I've come into contact with over the last couple days have all had one reoccurring theme in their discussion, and I think it fits for ALL Repugs.

"I've got mine. Fuck you!!"

It's amazing how many Repugs believe this and actually feel morally superior about it. God rewarded them for being good little Christians. They have their cushy jobs, nice homes, money in the bank, and they feel it's against their morals and religion to even THINK about sharing it with others. God made them successful, so it is God's will and they feel oh so superior about that. To Hell with the poor, disadvantaged, disabled-God made them that way so they must have done something to deserve it. They make me sick, these damn Repugs. My mood is so black right now, I am purposefully hibernating at home for a few days to try and calm down.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:28 PM
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1. Interesting
There's a story of a Christian who died. As he was being laid in the grave, his soul grabbed for his possessions, but they fell from his spiritual grasp. He grabbed for his friends, his influence, his titles-none would join him. The only thing that went with him in the grave were his actions. They joined him at the Throne, where the Master of the Day of Judgement was.

We don't take our stuff with us. No one is judged by what position they achieved in life-they are judged by what they did with what they had. This, of course, is Christian/Muslim philosophy-but then these folks say they are Christians and should ascribe to this.

Sufis have an interesting practice. They behave as if every action were their last. Wonder what the last action of these "Christian"
people will be?
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 06:34 PM
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2. The Doctrine of the "Elect"
I haven't really studied Calvinist Theology that deeply; but, what I have read refers to an "Elect" - those chosen by God before the creation of the world to be "saved." Everyone else had been pre-destined for damnation.

So, you were damned or you were saved, and there wasn't much you could do about it. However, you could try to prove to yourself and others that you were of the elect. One way to do this was to seek out success in any endeavor, including business.

So, worldly success came to be seen as a sign of special favor from God. If you prospered, it was a sign that you were among the elect.

Someone with more knowledge of theology or religious history may want to comment or embellish on this.
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gnofg Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:10 PM
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3. agreed
This battle is between Rural/Affluent/super rich and the "urban areas. The repubs have put together a very powerful coalition. The rural voters will never support the urban groups. They look at us as morally inferior. This fight has been going on for many years. Even when I was in college in the sixties Upstate looked at downstate as weird. I don't see how we can change the affluent voter in the red states to support us. The affluent voter in the "blue ststes" can be converted but those states already support us. Look at the blue states- highly educated with the best universities. A solid history of skepticism of religion and a firm belief of seperation of church and state. How we get to a winnable coalition is troubling me. I currently live in the south and there is little hope that this state will ever vote for a democrat. Look at how successful Passion of the Christ" has been and there is a seperate group of "faith based entertainers" that do very well and sell out all the time. We need more than a new marketing philosophy. There has to be a fundamental change in America and an understanding of why there is supposed to be a seperation of the church and state. Look at the increase in home schooling. These are all examples of the seperation of our culture from a middle ground to one of us against them and whoever wins rules. I unfortunately think we are only half way through the conservative lifecycle. We governed for fifty years and they have ruled(they believe in ruling) for twenty five. Remember at the base of conservative philosophy is selfishness. I got mine you get yours. This is a party(Southern) that at it's roots believed that Jim Crow was OK party and historically was against social security from the beginning. They believe if old people are eating cat food then it's a good lesson for not saving enough and it's a good lesson for society. I hope I'm wrong.

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:18 PM
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4. America: where the poor and weak are killed and eaten
my version
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:40 PM
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5. Yes, Repuke social policy----->kill the poor
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