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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:54 PM
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Poll question: What % of Congressional Dems "fight for progressive values?" IOW -
what percent of them, in your opinion, can be said to faithfully defend the interests of the broad mass of American people -- as opposed to primarily representing corporate interests & those of our society's privileged elite?

(Note: I don't mean to be horning in on Terwilliger's earlier somewhat similar poll. My feeling was that re-formulating the question might offer the advantage of providing a quantitative glimpse into the general question "How satisfied are posters here with what elected Democrats do in Congress?")

Poll result (43 votes)
75-100% ("The Dems are pretty great, & represent my values well.") (5 votes, 12%)Vote
50-75% ("The Dems do OK, but leave much to be desired.") (8 votes, 19%)Vote
25-50% ("I hate to admit it, but many or most of them are worthless.") (4 votes, 9%)Vote
0-25% ("Most of them are sell-outs; only a handful is really progressive.") (26 votes, 60%)Vote
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  - you horner!  Terwilliger   Sep-01-03 02:02 PM   #1 
  - On behalf of all us horner-inner types....  RichM   Sep-01-03 02:12 PM   #3 
  - I think you might just as easily ask the inverse question:  mike_c   Sep-01-03 02:04 PM   #2 
  - 0-25%  redeye   Sep-01-03 02:15 PM   #4 
  - Progressive Caucus  Mel   Sep-01-03 02:53 PM   #5 
  - Actually, this is a very good point. I use the number of Prog. Caucus  RichM   Sep-01-03 03:04 PM   #6 
  - Anyone else care to weigh in?  RichM   Sep-01-03 05:03 PM   #7 
 
Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 02:02 PM
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1. you horner!
;-) :hi:
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 02:12 PM
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3. On behalf of all us horner-inner types....
I apologize! ;-) :hi:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 02:04 PM
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2. I think you might just as easily ask the inverse question:
To what degree has access to wealth replaced genuine representative public service as a prime motivator in the Democratic Party?
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 02:15 PM
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4. 0-25%
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 02:16 PM by redeye
But the number should be 0% - I expect politicians to remember the lesson of World War One and put the interests of the world before those of the nation.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 02:53 PM
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5. Progressive Caucus
link for the 'Progressive Caucus' in the House of Reps.

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:04 PM
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6. Actually, this is a very good point. I use the number of Prog. Caucus
members to estimate how many of the Dems are "worth their salt." My feeling is that if you take the number of members (about 54, last time I counted) and divide by the number of Dems in Congress (maybe 208 or so), you get a number like 25%. So I use this as an upper limit of how many Dems are NOT worthless. However, not everyone in the Progressive Caucus is worth his/her salt. That's because there are some pro-Israel militarists, airheads like Pelosi, & other assorted phonies in there.

I do think, though, that this ratio is a reasonable guide to roughly how many Dems are worthless & how many aren't. Certainly, all the Dems I have respect for (Kucinich, Stark, Lee, Conyers, McDermott, Waxman, etc) are ALL members of the PC. And Bernie (not a Dem) is one of the very best of the lot.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:03 PM
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7. Anyone else care to weigh in?
Results seem pretty interesting, so far!
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