THERE WILL BE NO DRAFT!!

[telamachus]

at least not any time soon. I posted this in another thread so I apologize if that is a problem!

My wife is a member of the Draft Board thanks to a post here at DU!!

Yes it is true that the Draft Board has not been called for well over 30 years but that does not mean that there will be a draft.

Selective Service has several responsibilities one of which is to register all males when they are 18. The other important thing that SS does is to evaluate the availability of those registered with SS.

I believe (maybe wishful thinking) that the Board has been recalled, in fact it was 7 years ago that it was recalled, in order to evaluate the actual numbers of available registrants.

I hope I am right about this but just in case we are wrong at least we know that there will be at least one progressive on the Draft Board!!!

A VERY IMPORTANT NOTE!!!!! Although the draft board has been recalled there is NO FUNDING!!! My wifes coordinator has informed her that there is no money for training that was to take place in NOV. of this year. The earliest that they could meet would be after next years budget is approved and the money has been allocated.

If there were a plan for a draft then they would have founded the draft board. They have not at least in Illinois.

[TexasSissy]

1. Ummm..are you aware that there is already a back door draft?

[telamachus]

8. We can call it what it is

but it is very important to look at the fact that recalls are not only legal they are contractual. I have spoken to quite a few gaurdsmen and reservists and none have said it was illegal to recall them to fulfill their contracts.

Don'tget me wwrong I think it is shitty to call up a guy who has been out of service for ten years.

[Tempest]

13. Reservists who have COMPLETED their service are being called up

Why aren't post counts working?


Not that I'm accusing you, but DU is being overrun with freepers.

I've already sent out half-a-dozen alerts.

[telamachus]

23. WTF... post counts

I think maybe the outcome of the election has made a few around here paranoid.

I would love to see links to show that non contractual reservists are being called up. Or does asking for evidence make me a freeper? Sometimes I think that we are our own worst enemy...

[Jack The Tab]

2. archive your post and come back to it in 2 years...

Don't you know what these men are capable of?

You think they won't ramrod through funding for a draft the way they ramrodded 70 Billion for Iraq like it was nothing?

These men feel they have a mandate, yet again.

[KingChicken]

3. It's not about plans for a draft, its about the next confilct

This country won't have a choice if we engage Iran or NK. Iraq alone won't drive a draft, it will be the next major engagement.

[vpigrad]

4. Kerry was going to add 40,000 troops...

without a draft! Bushie will have to have a draft if he wants to keep the military the same size. That's why there will be a draft.

[Javaman]

5. Oh yes there will be, and it won't be because we invade Iran...

There will be another "terrorist" attack. Then moron will need to mobilize the nation. Hence the draft. Just wait for it. It will happen.

[walldude]

6. There will be a draft

maybe not next week or next month but if the Administration gets back in and they continue to follow the PNAC document they will need lots more cannon fodder

[greyfox]

14. Indeed

Hide and watch and move to Canada!!!

[Shadoobie]

7. I agree for other reasons

By the Pentagon's own study, the number one reason people join the military is for economic reason. As long as the economy is in the crapper, * should have a steady stream of enlistees. If they need more people, expect the economy to turn for the worse (especially for the lower class) and * won't even care.

Greg

[telamachus]

10. Great point

when there is no other option then many will choose this path. It is getting very tough to pay for higher education and in light of revamping of the GI bill it appears that this will be a way to fill the ranks.

[calico1]

9. There has to be one, eventually.

The situation in Iraq is a quagmire and we are strectched to the breaking point. How many new recruits? Last I heard they were below the desired number for this year. I just don't see an all volunteer military being enough. Already they are extending tours and using the backdoor draft. How long can this last? And this is only considering Iraq and Afghanistan. What if these nuts decide to go into Iran or Syria? We just don't have enough people. I do hope I am wrong.

[Patiod]

32. And they won't have the 9/11 motivation

If it ever filters down to potential recruits that 9/11 was NOT caused by Saddam

[Tempest]

11. You're wrong about at least one point

There was an article in my local paper where the reporter sat in on mock interviews to prepare for a draft.

The reporter contacted other journalists around the country and they confirmed this was widespread.


Karl Rove polled Repug congressmen earlier in the year to find out if they would support a draft. They told Rove they would support the president.


Bookmark this post.

Draft in July 2005.

[telamachus]

30. Where was I wrong?

I stated that in Illinois the funding is not there to have training. Of course any draft board training would include these types of scenarios.

I would love to see a link on the rove thing. Please post a link to your storyabout widespread mock interviews. Of course I really don't expect one but I must ask.

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. You don't know shit about this.

They can activate a draft in 24 hours.

[telamachus]

22. OK you are god

I guess you know it all. what an....

[GRLMGC]

15. Look

I doubt our government wants a draft. Thats political suicide. However, there is no end in sight and we are racking up casualties. We won't have much of a volunteer army and we'll probably need a draft.

[Cat Atomic]

16. I'm saving your post. I'll tease you about it in June.

Assuming I have access to a computer in boot camp.

[telamachus]

25. I would be willing to wager on that.

any takers?

[AngryOldDem]

17. GEE...Why am I NOT reassured?

[Career Prole]

18. No offense, bub, but you seem to be assuming Iraq will now settle down,

as well as Iran and North Korea, and shrub will suddenly become a peacemaker. That's a pretty big assumption and I'm pretty sure your assessment and bold statement re: "NO DRAFT!" are both pretty much, well...so much hot air. With all due respect, of course. The clown has four years.

Edited to add you base your assumption on funding. Apparently you didn't notice that the chickenhawks have been given the key to the vault by a bunch of religious jackasses. They'll "FUND" what they want. Amerika gave deficit-spending a big-ass thumbs-up.

[telamachus]

26. Perhaps you failed to read the first line of my post

and jumped to conclusions to match your bias. If you really think that there will be a draft then you really think the the senate will vote for it? I don't belive that there would be enough votes to poull it off. 9/11..patriot act..fool me once. I don't belive that they could get away with it again way to many legisltors felt burned by bush once before on Iraq war powers.

[merh]

19. They will find the money - it will be funded...

:cry: eom

[Enraged_Ape]

20. There won't be a draft. There will be a "Youth Patriot Corps".

All draft-age kids will be able to choose whether they want to serve two years performing community service in their gated communities, or two years dodging bullets and car bombs in Iraq, Iran, and Syria. There will be monetary bonuses for those who choose the war duty, and an escape clause for the government to change their own quotas re: who goes where.

The media will never call it a draft, nor will they report on just how many kids are being fed into the meat-grinder.

[LiberalEconomist]

21. I hope there is a draft

and I hope conscription is set across the board. As it stands now, mostly poor kids are in military. Let Bif and Skippy go to Iraq and get their ribs blown out by a roadside bomb.

[telamachus]

31. You are joking?

It is most likely that those with money can arrange deferments.

[LSK]

24. 6 months - draft , 1 year - Iran

[telamachus]

28. How much are you willing to bet on it?

In six months there will not be a draft board in place. No draft board no draft. Tell me how do you get all the draftees to training and war?

Send them a letter to show up in Iran? Give me a break!

[Pathwalker]

27. Gee, there's another thread in another forum saying there WILL

be a draft. Would you people make up your minds? I've got THREE draft age sons, so a little clarity would HELP!

[telamachus]

29. If you have three draft age sons

then you should educate them about the draft. Have them look at the laws concering the draft and look at the history of how the draft works.

My post is only based on FACTS that come from my PERSONAL experience not the wild eyed ignorant opinions that one finds so often on message boards or conspiracy blogs.

I hope that I am right and that others are wrong because I do not want to see a draft happen.

Please take the time to look up the legislation concerning the draft board and to take a look at the Selective Service web site. If you have the time it would be quite helpful to look at the draft in the context of history and in comparision to today. It does seem at times that we are in deep shit but if you look at the facts you may just realize that we have only stepped in some stinky crap that will be wiped away before it causes to much damage.

[Patiod]

33. Not to be a bitch, but...

I wonder how the 83% of young people who DIDN'T vote will feel if there is a draft.